2019 Draft Discussion - Suns with 6th pick!

TheLogician · Post #41 » by **TheLogician** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:41 am

Nassir Little with 21 points in 20 minutes played. He would not be a bad consolation prize. 7'2'' wingspan and already plays great defense.

Post #42 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:29 am

TheLogician wrote:Nassir Little with 21 points in 20 minutes played. He would not be a bad consolation prize. 7'2'' wingspan and already plays great defense.

Where would you rank him now? 4th? Seems like I've seen him between 2 and 4.

TheLogician · Post #43 » by **TheLogician** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:49 am

bwgood77 wrote:
TheLogician wrote:Nassir Little with 21 points in 20 minutes played. He would not be a bad consolation prize. 7'2'' wingspan and already plays great defense.

Where would you rank him now? 4th? Seems like I've seen him between 2 and 4.

I think RJ and Zion will be drafted 1 or 2, so he should go 3 or 4. I think 4 is most likely if Duke wins the championship. He's also coming off the bench right now, fwiw.

PackSuns · Post #44 » by **PackSuns** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:00 pm

Jalen Lecque is a name to watch. I hope he doesn’t skip his freshman year at NCSU. He could be one of the best PG’s in this draft.

Post #45 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:40 am

I will merge this into the draft thread but wanted it to stand out for a minute.

I know it's early, and before I was hesitant about him because I wasn't sure he could shoot or defend well, but his intensity is what this team needs. I think you get one guy like that and it's infectious.

Yes, still early so maybe I change my mind but for now, he would be good...I didn't watch the game..and the hard thing to know about these guys is their D, because with this much fire power on Duke, these guys don't even really have to play D...they will beat everyone with ease.

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TheLogician · Post #46 » by **TheLogician** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:49 am

He definitely seems like the leader of the team. Who would we put around him? Just add a PG and start him with Booker, Warren, Ayton?

Post #47 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:01 am

TheLogician wrote:He definitely seems like the leader of the team. Who would we put around him? Just add a PG and start him with Booker, Warren, Ayton?

He has a handle and looks like he can pass. We definitely need a PG. I guess it depends on where we land in the draft. If he is available where we pick, based on what we know today, I think you take him, unless Barrett, Reddish, Little or someone else becomes a clear cut better guy.

Earlier I theoretically liked Reddish because he was supposedly the best distributor and defender of the bunch, so I could go back to him.

And Barrett is still the #1 ranked guy, so who knows?

Nassir Little will be interesting to watch because he isn't playing with a bunch of other top 5 recruits....but of course NC always has top guys.

We may not even draft in the top 4 though. Even if we finish with the worst record, this year we could drop to 5 and the worst record has no advantage statistically than the other 2 bottom 3 teams.

I am not hoping for us to play horribly, but I felt even before the season, that, by default, we would probably be among the worst teams because of our schedule, the youth, new coach and system, and the fact that we were by far the worst team on both sides of the ball last year...very hard to make too much of a jump, especially if you don't have a PG and are playing a few rookies a lot of minutes.

I think we will get better throughout the year, especially if we add a reasonably decent PG, but I think we should end up with a nice player in this draft unless we follow Gambo's advice.

TheLogician · Post #48 » by **TheLogician** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:30 am

We need to finish in the bottom three to have the best odds at picking 1-4. We cannot screw that up under any circumstances.

Post #49 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:36 am

TheLogician wrote:We need to finish in the bottom three to have the best odds at picking 1-4. We cannot screw that up under any circumstances.

The odds are not that much different for 4...it drops to 12%+ at 4 but the next 3 spots don't drop off that much. It will be much more of a crap shoot.

http://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds Atlanta and Washington being tied averages their pick position but 3 is definitely 14% odds and 4 must be around 12.5%.

TheLogician · Post #50 » by **TheLogician** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:05 am

bwgood77 wrote:
TheLogician wrote:We need to finish in the bottom three to have the best odds at picking 1-4. We cannot screw that up under any circumstances.

The odds are not that much different for 4...it drops to 12%+ at 4 but the next 3 spots don't drop off that much. It will be much more of a crap shoot.

http://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds Atlanta and Washington being tied averages their pick position but 3 is definitely 14% odds and 4 must be around 12.5%.

Yeah, the odds are flattened but still better. We are a legit bottom feeder team so resting players is worth it to get the better odds. I don't care how it looks.

Post #51 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:11 am

TheLogician wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
TheLogician wrote:We need to finish in the bottom three to have the best odds at picking 1-4. We cannot screw that up under any circumstances.

The odds are not that much different for 4...it drops to 12%+ at 4 but the next 3 spots don't drop off that much. It will be much more of a crap shoot.

http://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds Atlanta and Washington being tied averages their pick position but 3 is definitely 14% odds and 4 must be around 12.5%.

Yeah, the odds are flattened but still better. We are a legit bottom feeder team so resting players is worth it to get the better odds. I don't care how it looks.

We don't need to rest players. We will be bad anyway given the west and not having a PG. It's still a roll of the dice. If we miss on a top pick I'm sure there will be a PG who emerges this year that will probably rise.

TheLogician · Post #52 » by **TheLogician** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:21 am

bwgood77 wrote:
TheLogician wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
The odds are not that much different for 4...it drops to 12%+ at 4 but the next 3 spots don't drop off that much. It will be much more of a crap shoot.

http://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds Atlanta and Washington being tied averages their pick position but 3 is definitely 14% odds and 4 must be around 12.5%.

Yeah, the odds are flattened but still better. We are a legit bottom feeder team so resting players is worth it to get the better odds. I don't care how it looks.

We don't need to rest players. We will be bad anyway given the west and not having a PG. It's still a roll of the dice. If we miss on a top pick I'm sure there will be a PG who emerges this year that will probably rise.

I think it will happen if necessary, as in the Knicks or someone besides the Cavs and Hawks are as bad as us. No need to risk better odds at the end of the season.

Bogyo · Post #53 » by **Bogyo** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:24 am

bwgood77 wrote:
TheLogician wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
The odds are not that much different for 4...it drops to 12%+ at 4 but the next 3 spots don't drop off that much. It will be much more of a crap shoot.

http://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds Atlanta and Washington being tied averages their pick position but 3 is definitely 14% odds and 4 must be around 12.5%.

Yeah, the odds are flattened but still better. We are a legit bottom feeder team so resting players is worth it to get the better odds. I don't care how it looks.

We don't need to rest players. We will be bad anyway given the west and not having a PG. It's still a roll of the dice. If we miss on a top pick I'm sure there will be a PG who emerges this year that will probably rise.

Yeah, I was about to say I'm pretty sure a PG will emerge sooner or later who is worth taking at 5-8 or wherever we land if we start doing better with easier schedule, getting more used to the system etc... If we still end up with a top4 pick and don't end up with Zion we might as well trade it, or whatever...

Post #54 » by **Qwigglez** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:32 am

I thought Jackson had a relentless motor and intensity? I am not very fond of undersized PF's, and he reminds me of Anthony Bennett.

bigfoot · Post #55 » by **bigfoot** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:46 am

Hoping for rookie point guard to turn this team around is stupid. We need to get a PG in free agency or trade.

Saberestar · Post #56 » by **Saberestar** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:02 pm

Zion Williamson is an amazing prospect. He is a monster.

His best position in the NBA is gonna be PF IMO. Perfect for us if we get a veteran PG via trade or FA.

PG
Booker
Warren
Zion
Ayton

Bridges 6th man.

Ryu · Post #57 » by **Ryu** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:45 pm

Saberestar wrote:Zion Williamson is an amazing prospect. He is a monster.

His best position in the NBA is gonna be PF IMO. Perfect for us if we get a veteran PG via trade or FA.

PG
Booker
Warren
Zion
Ayton

Bridges 6th man.

Kemba/Rubio
Booker
Bridges
Zion
Ayton

Warren 6th man.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #58 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:34 pm

Qwigglez wrote:I thought Jackson had a relentless motor and intensity? I am not very fond of undersized PF's, and he reminds me of Anthony Bennett.

Zion is such a better athlete than Bennett though. Where Bennett the weight hurt his game I think it helps zion, there will be no moving him off his spot. His combo of size and quick twitch is unlike any prospect I ever remember.

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bhawk · Post #59 » by **bhawk** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:55 pm

Duke vs. Army today. I was sold on Zion after the Kentucky game. Barrett is awesome too. Reddish. I could not believe that they beat Kentucky that badly. At one point I thought they would win by 50 pts. They were THAT dominant.

This Duke team could be the greatest of all time. Don't take my word for it. 11am MNT on ESPN. Watch for yourself. Zion is amazing and I want him on the Suns. He is more dominant than Ayton was last year... no question.

Post #60 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:04 pm

bhawk wrote:Duke vs. Army today. I was sold on Zion after the Kentucky game. Barrett is awesome too. Reddish. I could not believe that they beat Kentucky that badly. At one point I thought they would win by 50 pts. They were THAT dominant.

This Duke team could be the greatest of all time. Don't take my word for it. 11am MNT on ESPN. Watch for yourself. Zion is amazing and I want him on the Suns. He is more dominant than Ayton was last year... no question.

Zion with 21, 6, 3, 1, 1 at the half.