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Re: 2024 Summer League 

Post#41 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Jul 14, 2024 6:44 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Dunn 3 steals, 2 blocks, 0/3 from 3, 4 TOs.

As advertised

Dunn did look pretty good defensively. Can see guys with the ball getting shy when he's in front of them and he was active out there. But similar to Oso, these are guys who NEED to have playmakers to help put them in spots to be effective

Overall met my expectation
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Re: 2024 Summer League 

Post#42 » by Puff » Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:24 am

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Mulhollanddrive wrote:Dunn 3 steals, 2 blocks, 0/3 from 3, 4 TOs.

As advertised

Dunn did look pretty good defensively. Can see guys with the ball getting shy when he's in front of them and he was active out there. But similar to Oso, these are guys who NEED to have playmakers to help put them in spots to be effective

Overall met my expectation


Since money is appears not a problem for Ish.

We should be able to do better than Roddy on the minimum market. He stunk up the joint.
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Re: 2024 Summer League 

Post#43 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:25 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:Dunn 3 steals, 2 blocks, 0/3 from 3, 4 TOs.

As advertised

Dunn did look pretty good defensively. Can see guys with the ball getting shy when he's in front of them and he was active out there. But similar to Oso, these are guys who NEED to have playmakers to help put them in spots to be effective

Overall met my expectation


Since money is appears not a problem for Ish.

We should be able to do better than Roddy on the minimum market. He stunk up the joint.

We could but Roddy's option was already picked up when the Royce trade happened so it wasn't our decision to pick it up.

I'm about 99% sure he's just a practice body until a worth FA decides to join us then we'll punt him
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Re: 2024 Summer League 

Post#44 » by Saberestar » Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:34 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
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lilfishi22 wrote:Dunn did look pretty good defensively. Can see guys with the ball getting shy when he's in front of them and he was active out there. But similar to Oso, these are guys who NEED to have playmakers to help put them in spots to be effective

Overall met my expectation


Since money is appears not a problem for Ish.

We should be able to do better than Roddy on the minimum market. He stunk up the joint.

We could but Roddy's option was already picked up when the Royce trade happened so it wasn't our decision to pick it up.

I'm about 99% sure he's just a practice body until a worth FA decides to join us then we'll punt him

Yeah, no doubt about it.

He is trying to prove himself in this Summer League but he couldn't have played worse than he played in this one. DISGUSTING.

Pretty sure that we are trying to trade him but no takers out there. If we want a particular FA we will waive him.
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Re: 2024 Summer League 

Post#45 » by RedIndian » Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:45 am

Roddy was utterly terrible. For a 3rd year guy to look so bad in the Summer League, it's a pretty bad look. Think he'll be cut sooner rather than later.
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Post#46 » by sashaturiaf » Sun Jul 14, 2024 6:29 pm

Summer League is meaningless at the best of times and given how we approached this draft there's not much to see for the Suns in this year at all, these guys were drafted as and to be role players to fit around the core squad and Summer League is not an environment where role players thrive. We already know Dunn is a stud defensively but offensively he isn't going to show anything in this unstructured mess. Preseason interests me far more since we can at least see the draft picks playing with actual NBA players in Bud's system.


Having said that, watching Bronny crash and burn is entertaining in a car crash sort of way. You knew it was going to happen like this, you knew you didn't want to watch due to the cringe factor, yet you can't look away. **** Lebron
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Post#47 » by Fo-Real » Sun Jul 14, 2024 7:33 pm

Roddy is trash!
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Re: 2024 Summer League 

Post#48 » by KdoubleDees23 » Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:28 pm

TBH

Roddy > Bronny
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Post#49 » by garrick » Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:03 pm

I don't really have any expectations for Dunn and I feel he will never get his shot down but I hope I am wrong.

Ighodaro and Bridges I feel could actually make more of an impact, if Jalen can just hit a good percentage of his threes that gives us another forward that isn't an offensive liability & Oso if he can play more as a small center then it doesn't matter so much if he can't shoot threes.

Dunn if he were just a bit bigger we could fit him in at PF or even C but he's just a bit undersized to ever play PF or C except in really small ball lineups.
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Post#50 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:40 pm

garrick wrote:I don't really have any expectations for Dunn and I feel he will never get his shot down but I hope I am wrong.

Ighodaro and Bridges I feel could actually make more of an impact, if Jalen can just hit a good percentage of his threes that gives us another forward that isn't an offensive liability & Oso if he can play more as a small center then it doesn't matter so much if he can't shoot threes.

Dunn if he were just a bit bigger we could fit him in at PF or even C but he's just a bit undersized to ever play PF or C except in really small ball lineups.


It was just one SL game, but it looked like Dunn is one of those 0-and-D types that tend to flame out of the league pretty quickly. He'll have to make dramatic improvements to get to where Josh Okogie was as a rookie. Looked unplayable to me.

Does anyone else find it funny that our SL team suffers critically from the lack of a point guard? No?

You know who probably could have played minutes for us this season, had we selected him? Isaiah Collier. Kolek didn't look great in the game I watched, but he did have 7 AST/0 TO. Pretty sure no one on our SL squad will get 7 AST in a game.

I wonder if the Rockets offered us the #3 in a package for Durant or Booker. Reed Sheppard looks like a revelation, y'all. Like a combo of Curry and Stockton. Glad he didn't drop to 4, but you can add the Rockets to the list of teams we may have a worse record than this season.

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Re: 2024 Summer League 

Post#51 » by Bogyo » Mon Jul 15, 2024 5:31 pm

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
garrick wrote:I don't really have any expectations for Dunn and I feel he will never get his shot down but I hope I am wrong.

Ighodaro and Bridges I feel could actually make more of an impact, if Jalen can just hit a good percentage of his threes that gives us another forward that isn't an offensive liability & Oso if he can play more as a small center then it doesn't matter so much if he can't shoot threes.

Dunn if he were just a bit bigger we could fit him in at PF or even C but he's just a bit undersized to ever play PF or C except in really small ball lineups.


It was just one SL game, but it looked like Dunn is one of those 0-and-D types that tend to flame out of the league pretty quickly. He'll have to make dramatic improvements to get to where Josh Okogie was as a rookie. Looked unplayable to me.

Does anyone else find it funny that our SL team suffers critically from the lack of a point guard? No?

You know who probably could have played minutes for us this season, had we selected him? Isaiah Collier. Kolek didn't look great in the game I watched, but he did have 7 AST/0 TO. Pretty sure no one on our SL squad will get 7 AST in a game.

I wonder if the Rockets offered us the #3 in a package for Durant or Booker. Reed Sheppard looks like a revelation, y'all. Like a combo of Curry and Stockton. Glad he didn't drop to 4, but you can add the Rockets to the list of teams we may have a worse record than this season.

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Yea, Sheppard was always a good pick. If we had a deal with Sengun and the pick (and stuff) for KD (or Book) and we didn't take it thats (again) gross missmanagement and fireable offense. But as is in these cases, JJ will seemingly slip on a banana peel...
If I were the Rockets I'd be heavily shopping FVV (overpaid, old, short, chuckery tendencies, taking away playing time from Shep), and that Jalen kid (short, low iq chucker with bad shooting %s, he only had nice counting stats in the last 20 games as Rockets let him run wild again without consequences, any real team play, no good defense, etc...). They should be able to get some stuff for these 2, build the team around Sengun/Shep (and as much as I hate Brooks, he is an OK 5th starter with his pesky/dirty defense).
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Re: 2024 Summer League 

Post#52 » by KdoubleDees23 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:45 am

Breaking news :

Bronny still sucks
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Re: 2024 Summer League 

Post#53 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue Jul 16, 2024 5:59 am

Tyler Kolek looking like Steve Nash

Uh oh not another one of these
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Re: 2024 Summer League 

Post#54 » by garrick » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:27 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Tyler Kolek looking like Steve Nash

Uh oh not another one of these





Isaiah Collier looked good too.

Not to beat a dead horse but I think the Dunn pick will come back to haunt us. We should have picked Collier, Flipkowski or Kolek who are much more NBA ready right now and aren't as 1 dimensional as Dunn.
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Post#55 » by Saberestar » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:01 pm

2nd game. I want to see a more agressive Dunn attacking the rim.
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Post#56 » by Saberestar » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:12 pm

Great start from Oso.
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Post#57 » by darealjuice » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:16 pm

Oso has a pretty smooth handle for a guy his size
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Post#58 » by sunsbg » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:59 pm

Based on showing so far combined mpg over/under for the rooks next season should be less than 15. Hope it's not the Bender/Chris situation once again though expectations should be quite different based on draft position and team record. Oso looks more ready and can get some burn in case of injury concerns in frontcourt. Really hard to imagine Dunn gets consistent playing time with Royce and Okogie being a lot more dependable at this point.
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Post#59 » by darealjuice » Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:40 pm

Only 2 summer league games, but unfortunately I have little to no expectations for Oso and Dunn next year.

Dunn is a ghost on offense. He's been slightly better handling the ball than I expected, but there's not much else there right now. Defensively he's active and athletic, but he won't be an elite on-ball defender without getting stronger. Can't imagine he sees the floor much this year.

Oso showed some positives on offense with his passing, ball handling, and athleticism. Seems like he'll be a non-shooter though. He's decent defensively, not much of a rim protector but has good hands and timing. He could develop into a solid player with some weight, but his upside is definitely capped if he's a non-shooting tweener.

Still confused by the direction we went in the draft. Obviously expectations should be low where we were drafting, but it seems like there were better positional fits at 22/28 that are easier to project in the NBA or have more realistic upside.
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Post#60 » by Biff » Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:56 pm

Don't understand why people keep bringing up Bronny. Dude got drafted at 55, who cares? 9/10 guys drafted there never make it in the league. Pretty low risk pick for the Lakers. Meanwhile our 1st rounder probably won't make the league either. Seems like we have little smack to talk there.
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