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KLEON wrote:Kd again you are a great player but you are so mentally weak and that will forever stain your greatness
SweaterBae wrote:It's the perfect trade when nobody is happy.
Coach's fault, obviouslyschnakenpopanz wrote:suns let their opponent hit 7 threes in a row with one 4 point play. that tells you everything
garrick wrote:Did Grayson get torched on defense again in this game?
Should have traded him instead of keeping an overrated defender.
grumpysaddle wrote:garrick wrote:Did Grayson get torched on defense again in this game?
Should have traded him instead of keeping an overrated defender.
I don't think anyone's ever overrated him as a defender. He's always been a bad defender. Sometimes he makes up for it with hitting a ton of 3s, but that was mostly last season.
garrick wrote:Did Grayson get torched on defense again in this game?
Should have traded him instead of keeping an overrated defender.
SkyBill40 wrote:If I'm owner, James Jones is the first to pack his bags. As soon as he's off property, no one on this roster is safe. Budenholzer's getting $hitcanned, too. Dude isn't any better than Williams or Vogel and I'm wondering if his title in MIL was just a fluke like Vogel's was in LA.
This core is rotten and until a serious effort is made to turn it around, it's going to stay that way
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Bogyo wrote:SkyBill40 wrote:If I'm owner, James Jones is the first to pack his bags. As soon as he's off property, no one on this roster is safe. Budenholzer's getting $hitcanned, too. Dude isn't any better than Williams or Vogel and I'm wondering if his title in MIL was just a fluke like Vogel's was in LA.
This core is rotten and until a serious effort is made to turn it around, it's going to stay that way
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Its JJ, KD and Book. The rest get a free pass from me. They have been the constant (KD throughout his career, not just these 2 years).
They are not adequate to be effective in todays NBA. JJ has never been, just got a way with sht as a clueless yes man for 2 bad owners, and selling them snake oil as a "players gm" - when in reality that only meant he got abused by everyone everywhere every time. Good for him to keep a job like that (with the money) as long as he did. I bet he'll never be a GM again. Good riddance.
KD - butthurt snake, while most snakes dont even have butts. Man could put the ball in the basket, but thats it. Nothing else. No legacy. Mental midget. Good riddance.
Book - after a good start where he became fan favourite DESPITE the bad coaching and all other struggles for the team he took a terrible turn, especially after the KD arrival. Seems to care about his "brand" (lol dude, you are no jordan, not even kobe - you are mitch richmond, you have no brand, stfu), and not about the team or winning. Quick to check out mentally (hello kd), point fingers, and not take responsibility - or worse, only do it in words and next game he shts the bed the same way or worse. While running his worst season ever, in one of his supposedly prime years. Disgusting.
The rest are what they are - no real point in blaming Beal or Grayson or coaching - these dummies above ran coaches out of town who had the pedigree, etc... If dumbasses dont listen and execute god almighty could run this team and results would be the team... I mean KD had Atkinson fired from the Nets - look at them now... Atkinson is doing amazing in CLE - meanwhile KD is undermining yet another locker room. Ship his asss out of here as soon as possible, for whatever anyone gives up. I'd rather watch the team for 10 years sucking and "building" on 2nd round picks only while others make lottery picks with our original picks (thanks JJ, you master of trades and not giving up value unncessarily, you are a gem), than watch these pitiful excuses for an athlete steal money by not giving any effort and blame everyone but themselves for their atrocious mindset and lack of willpower. F them.
Saberestar wrote:What a terrible way to finish the game. We were pretty bad since the start but at least we made a run in the 3rd quarter and we cut their lead to 3 points or something like that and then in the fourth...BOOM. Again losing by double digits at the end.
What a frustrating team to watch. We have the talent and the health now but we can't win consistently, 27W-30L is inexcusible
The Raptors were 17-39 going to this game and missing his 2nd best player in Ingram. We had to win this one, it was a must but we couldn't because we aren't good enough. They played better and we are talking about one of the worst teams in the league. ****.
Barnes dominated KD, he played a physical defense on him. They shot very well from 3 and that was the game. Easy for the Raptors.
thamadkant wrote:Saberestar wrote:What a terrible way to finish the game. We were pretty bad since the start but at least we made a run in the 3rd quarter and we cut their lead to 3 points or something like that and then in the fourth...BOOM. Again losing by double digits at the end.
What a frustrating team to watch. We have the talent and the health now but we can't win consistently, 27W-30L is inexcusible
The Raptors were 17-39 going to this game and missing his 2nd best player in Ingram. We had to win this one, it was a must but we couldn't because we aren't good enough. They played better and we are talking about one of the worst teams in the league. ****.
Barnes dominated KD, he played a physical defense on him. They shot very well from 3 and that was the game. Easy for the Raptors.
Talent??
Almost every player in the NBA are talented.
Hard work, effort and good strategy are also needed to accompany talent because it's competitive.... suns don't have competitors... they have hoopers as KD and Booker allude to.
SkyBill40 wrote:If I'm owner, James Jones is the first to pack his bags. As soon as he's off property, no one on this roster is safe. Budenholzer's getting $hitcanned, too. Dude isn't any better than Williams or Vogel and I'm wondering if his title in MIL was just a fluke like Vogel's was in LA.
This core is rotten and until a serious effort is made to turn it around, it's going to stay that way
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Saberestar wrote:
That's why we are so frustrated and we are talking about big failure with a team that's 27-30. In the league everyone agree that Suns and Sixers are the biggest negative surprises this season.
And yeah, all the other things that you have added are needed to win consistently in the league. On paper our coaching staff is great too, but things aren't working as well as expected for multiple reasons.
Saberestar wrote:Yeah, talent.
That's why we are so frustrated and we are talking about big failure with a team that's 27-30. In the league everyone agree that Suns and Sixers are the biggest negative surprises this season.
They were down big but made a fake comeback and they were hyped! Dudes celebrating a fake comeback against a tanking team without their two best player and DLo and Cam Thomas Podcast P was so hype he gave a bucket to a G-leaguer and then came down and bricked the next two shots And they lose anyway on a buzzer beating tip-in by Claxton 