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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#401 » by Cutter » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:50 pm

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Embiid has a weight issue. Although the Sixers wouldn't disclose his weight, a source said he's close to 300 pounds after being 250 pounds at Kansas last season.

His work ethic is being questioned by some inside the organization.

And a blowup with assistant strength and conditioning coach James Davis is one of the reasons he was sent home during the team's recent West Coast road trip.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/six ... cPbCj7e.99

Haha. Really too early to say how Embiid is going to turn out. However this is one of the perils of hardcore tanking for draft picks. First draft a really skinny Nerlens Noel who has a torn ACL and seems like a one dimensional player. Then tank hard again and draft Joel Embiid who has been out hurt, is over weight and is already fighting with coaches (according to "sources"). I don't think either Noel or Embiid are future franchise players. Plus Philly is rumored to want to get rid of MCW. I'M so glad I'm not a 76'ers fan. :lol:
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#402 » by kennydorglas » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:11 pm

300lbs? oh my
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#403 » by Fo-Real » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:23 pm

DAYUM!!! Got another Bynum on thier hands? There must be something wrong with MCW... even after he Rookie of the year.... that offseason they acted like they didnt want him. Kid is young and still finding his way but I think he is talented. Didnt our GM love MCW... ****.... we will take MCW and Embiid and filler... you take Thomas and the Morri!!! And yes I sure would for those who ask. Hell.. they can have archie too if they throw in KJ.. they wouldnt.... we could flip those assets for some good ****.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#404 » by Qwigglez » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:18 pm

Not sure if this is the right spot for this, but I think so. Check this link out about Marbury.
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I didn't realize this about Marbury. I enjoyed his time with the Suns, and especially this legendary shot.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBS9hH9c4_s[/youtube]
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Post#405 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:25 am

Sometimes it's amazing to look at box scores and wonder why a team couldn't win when you didn't watch the game. Sacramento/Portland tonight....look at this...fg%, 3ptfg%, ft attempts and % and especially rebounds...

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400578913

I guess you have to assess that of course the extra turnovers hurt, that the disparity in number of attempts from 3 pt range was triple for Portland, and despite hitting them at a lower rate (and thus probably bringing down their overall fg%) that it obviously contributed to the win, because they hit 7 more.

I always find the Houston box scores interesting too....the often times at brief glance look like they should lose until you look at ft attempts and makes (the Harden factor) which, when you can nail these things at a 90% rate it drastically skews overall true shooting percentage for the team and gives you so many more easy points.

It really seems like taking a high volume of threes, even if you can only hit them at a 35% mark or above and having people that can get to the line often who are good ft shooters have a drastic impact on results.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#406 » by Revived » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:31 am

There's already discussion on the OKC-GSW first round series on the GB

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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#407 » by Frank Lee » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:48 pm

Once they pass us, I doubt they look back. We are going to have to surprise some to stay at #8. 7 and 6 spots will soon be out of reach w/o injury or ridiculous hot streak.

We are entering into the 'hard hat' zone on this forum.
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Post#408 » by Flying Colors » Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:22 am

Rising stars chanllenge is going to be US vs International, Alex Len has to get an invite this year right?
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#409 » by 3rdside » Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:42 am

bwgood77 wrote:Sometimes it's amazing to look at box scores and wonder why a team couldn't win when you didn't watch the game. Sacramento/Portland tonight....look at this...fg%, 3ptfg%, ft attempts and % and especially rebounds...

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400578913

I guess you have to assess that of course the extra turnovers hurt, that the disparity in number of attempts from 3 pt range was triple for Portland, and despite hitting them at a lower rate (and thus probably bringing down their overall fg%) that it obviously contributed to the win, because they hit 7 more.

I always find the Houston box scores interesting too....the often times at brief glance look like they should lose until you look at ft attempts and makes (the Harden factor) which, when you can nail these things at a 90% rate it drastically skews overall true shooting percentage for the team and gives you so many more easy points.

It really seems like taking a high volume of threes, even if you can only hit them at a 35% mark or above and having people that can get to the line often who are good ft shooters have a drastic impact on results.


First post so shout outs to everyone here...

Ya it's an interesting box score with the explanation for the result being the number of FGA for the winner - Portland - being 124 vs just 88 for Sacramento the loser, as you point out. They both made about the same 2pt FG (35 for the winner vs 34 for the loser) and only a differential of 7 3PM (11 winner vs 4 for the loser), which doesn't explain the vast gulf in FGA. I didn't see the game either / don't know too much about either of the teams so conclude that Portland must have excellent defence.

Looking at Hollinger's Defensive Efficiency:

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/defensiveEff


Portland are at number 4, not too far behind 3 and 2. Relating that to Phoenix - your conclusion might be right that maxxing 3PA or driving for possible FT's works, just so long as your defence is good. Ours isn't we're at #14.

Side note - Golden State are at #1 miles ahead of everyone, and they've got a point differential of 11.7...NBA champ for 2015 right there.
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Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#410 » by Jdiddy701 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:31 am

Flying Colors wrote:Rising stars chanllenge is going to be US vs International, Alex Len has to get an invite this year right?


Still going up against better centers.. Well not better centers but more known centers. I don't think enough people know about Alex Len like we do. I don't see him making it unfortunately.


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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#411 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:01 am

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bwgood77 wrote:Sometimes it's amazing to look at box scores and wonder why a team couldn't win when you didn't watch the game. Sacramento/Portland tonight....look at this...fg%, 3ptfg%, ft attempts and % and especially rebounds...

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400578913

I guess you have to assess that of course the extra turnovers hurt, that the disparity in number of attempts from 3 pt range was triple for Portland, and despite hitting them at a lower rate (and thus probably bringing down their overall fg%) that it obviously contributed to the win, because they hit 7 more.

I always find the Houston box scores interesting too....the often times at brief glance look like they should lose until you look at ft attempts and makes (the Harden factor) which, when you can nail these things at a 90% rate it drastically skews overall true shooting percentage for the team and gives you so many more easy points.

It really seems like taking a high volume of threes, even if you can only hit them at a 35% mark or above and having people that can get to the line often who are good ft shooters have a drastic impact on results.


First post so shout outs to everyone here...

Ya it's an interesting box score with the explanation for the result being the number of FGA for the winner - Portland - being 124 vs just 88 for Sacramento the loser, as you point out. They both made about the same 2pt FG (35 for the winner vs 34 for the loser) and only a differential of 7 3PM (11 winner vs 4 for the loser), which doesn't explain the vast gulf in FGA. I didn't see the game either / don't know too much about either of the teams so conclude that Portland must have excellent defence.

Looking at Hollinger's Defensive Efficiency:

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/defensiveEff


Portland are at number 4, not too far behind 3 and 2. Relating that to Phoenix - your conclusion might be right that maxxing 3PA or driving for possible FT's works, just so long as your defence is good. Ours isn't we're at #14.

Side note - Golden State are at #1 miles ahead of everyone, and they've got a point differential of 11.7...NBA champ for 2015 right there.


Welcome. I just wanted to point out that when looking at total shots, the 3 pointers are included in the fgm/a line, so you don't need to add them again, so there was really only a 12 shot differential, largely explained by the 8 additional turnovers (however, the big discrepancy in rebounds is a bit of a mystery).

So in mentioning that 3 pointers are included in the first fg line, taking a lot of threes will typically bring down your overall fg% since you will rarely hit them at as good of a rate as 2 pt fgs.

I do wish they just had lines for 2pm/a and 3pm/a. They actually do in some places, but not in most box scores.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#412 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:05 am

Frank Lee wrote:Once they pass us, I doubt they look back. We are going to have to surprise some to stay at #8. 7 and 6 spots will soon be out of reach w/o injury or ridiculous hot streak.

We are entering into the 'hard hat' zone on this forum.


As in my preseason predictions, I think if a team misses out and we make it, it will end up being Houston, barring a catastrophic injury from another team. I don't necessarily expect us to make it, but I just think they could be the team that could most likely fall back a bit.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#413 » by DirtyDez » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:48 am

Brandon Jennings: 24 points 21 assists 2 turnovers

Drummond: 26 points 16 rebounds 4 steals 3 blocks

Monroe: 24 points 10 rebounds 4 assists

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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#414 » by 3rdside » Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:40 am

bwgood77 wrote:
3rdside wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Sometimes it's amazing to look at box scores and wonder why a team couldn't win when you didn't watch the game. Sacramento/Portland tonight....look at this...fg%, 3ptfg%, ft attempts and % and especially rebounds...

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400578913

I guess you have to assess that of course the extra turnovers hurt, that the disparity in number of attempts from 3 pt range was triple for Portland, and despite hitting them at a lower rate (and thus probably bringing down their overall fg%) that it obviously contributed to the win, because they hit 7 more.

I always find the Houston box scores interesting too....the often times at brief glance look like they should lose until you look at ft attempts and makes (the Harden factor) which, when you can nail these things at a 90% rate it drastically skews overall true shooting percentage for the team and gives you so many more easy points.

It really seems like taking a high volume of threes, even if you can only hit them at a 35% mark or above and having people that can get to the line often who are good ft shooters have a drastic impact on results.


First post so shout outs to everyone here...

Ya it's an interesting box score with the explanation for the result being the number of FGA for the winner - Portland - being 124 vs just 88 for Sacramento the loser, as you point out. They both made about the same 2pt FG (35 for the winner vs 34 for the loser) and only a differential of 7 3PM (11 winner vs 4 for the loser), which doesn't explain the vast gulf in FGA. I didn't see the game either / don't know too much about either of the teams so conclude that Portland must have excellent defence.

Looking at Hollinger's Defensive Efficiency:

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/defensiveEff


Portland are at number 4, not too far behind 3 and 2. Relating that to Phoenix - your conclusion might be right that maxxing 3PA or driving for possible FT's works, just so long as your defence is good. Ours isn't we're at #14.

Side note - Golden State are at #1 miles ahead of everyone, and they've got a point differential of 11.7...NBA champ for 2015 right there.


Welcome. I just wanted to point out that win looking at total shots, the 3 pointers are included in the fgm/a line, so you don't need to add them again, so there was really only a 12 shot differential, largely explained by the 8 additional turnovers (however, the big discrepancy in rebounds is a bit of a mystery).

So in mentioning that 3 pointers are included in the first fg line, taking a lot of threes will typically bring down your overall fg% since you will rarely hit them at as good of a rate as 2 pt fgs.

I do wish they just had lines for 2pm/a and 3pm/a. They actually do in some places, but not in most box scores.


So what you're saying is my first post is a load of horse sh*t. Way for me to make an impression! The gulf in shots taken did seem awfully large now i think about it...In my defence it was first thing in the morning here in Oz and normally i'm pretty good with numbers. Normally,

Thanks for the welcome.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#415 » by LukasBMW » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:34 pm

Kobe tears his rotator cuff? Oh snap!

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... tator-Cuff

I actually think this could benefit us. I think that young Laker squad could pull together and try to show the NBA that there is no "I" in team!

They really have seemed to play better without him this year.
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Post#416 » by Qwigglez » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:36 pm

Nope. The Lakers have been equally as terrible with/without Kobe. They need a complete rebuild, and no single free-agent is going to save them next year. Basically that pick is ours next year, because they are finishing top 5 worst teams this year.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#417 » by Flying Colors » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:39 pm

Hopefully this gives Goran a better chance at being chosen for the all star game
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Post#418 » by spanishninja » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:29 am

Flying Colors wrote:Hopefully this gives Goran a better chance at being chosen for the all star game


meh, Bledsoe has a much better chance of getting chosen than Goran this year.
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Post#419 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:58 am

I don't really see any All-Stars on the Suns this year. Also the West is packed with good guards (Harden, Westbrook, Thompson, CP3, Lilliard, Ellis?) on contenders. Not much room for a guard on a team with 2 guards playing at a similar level and fighting for a playoff spot.
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Post#420 » by spanishninja » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:18 am

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