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ray ray wrote:Why wasn't Brendon Knight playing at the end of the game?? Isnt he a closer?? Isn't he better at creating shot for himself and teammates than Marcus Morris ?? .. I just don't get it
RunDogGun wrote:letsgosuns wrote:RunDogGun wrote:He got a ton of minutes in the DLeague, and it paid off. He looked bad this summer and at the beginning of the year. He earned his minutes. He is much more in control. You don't get that way just because you get minutes in the NBA. You can try and ignore all the work he he put in the DLeague, but that is very naive of you.
Earned his minutes? What are you talking about. He is playing now because Hornacek has to play him because he is the only backup point guard on the team, not because of what he did in the D-league. If Dragic and Thomas were still on the team, he would not be playing. He is much more in control now too because he knows he is not coming out of the game if he makes a mistake. He is playing relaxed. That is the way it should have been from the start. And by your logic about the D-League, the Suns might as well send Bledsoe down there to work on being out of control and cutting down his turnovers and Markieff down there to work on his defense and rebounding. Give me a break. Archie played in the D-league enough last year.
He earned his minutes in the DLeague. Jeff could have played Green more minutes if he didn't think Goodwin has improved. How the f*ck do you know what Goodwin is thinking? Get over yourself.Goodwin got the right amount of DLeague and it showed last night and tonight. So what did he do against OKC earlier this year in 18 minutes, since you are the expert?
Five points. In the summer league he was forcing shots, ramming into players. Last year he was releasing shots under the basket that had zero chance of going in. When pressed, he turned the ball over. If you haven't seen the difference, then you are blind. He is not the same player he was earlier.
RunDogGun wrote:All this hatefest and stupidity and none of those Tucker haters complimenting or praising him for a 20/6 game with three steals?
In Len We Trust wrote:MGA wrote:GoranTragic wrote:
How many excuses can you make before you admit that Hornacek is not a good coach during a rebuild?
We almost just beat a contender with a far superior roster, in their arena, on the second night of a b2b. Great coaching, not talent, gave us the chance to win.
Just looking at other team boards, it seems like every person wants their team's coach fired.
It honestly amazes me how simple minded you pro-Hornacek people are.
Your reasons for him being a good coach are "We won 48 games and were expected to win 20. He must be great!" and "X wins for this roster is pretty good coaching."
Do you people even watch basketball? If you actually watch games you would see coaching mistake after coaching mistake. If you actually watch with an open mind and pay attention to detail there is NO WAY you can argue that we can't be more successful with better coaching.
RunDogGun wrote:All this hatefest and stupidity and none of those Tucker haters complimenting or praising him for a 20/6 game with three steals?
ginobiliflops wrote:These last 20+ games are essentially a tryout to see who sticks and who goes this offseason. Don't get so worked up guys. I think expecting the playoffs at this point given our last 8 games(1-7) is wishful thinking.
letsgosuns wrote:RunDogGun wrote:letsgosuns wrote:
Earned his minutes? What are you talking about. He is playing now because Hornacek has to play him because he is the only backup point guard on the team, not because of what he did in the D-league. If Dragic and Thomas were still on the team, he would not be playing. He is much more in control now too because he knows he is not coming out of the game if he makes a mistake. He is playing relaxed. That is the way it should have been from the start. And by your logic about the D-League, the Suns might as well send Bledsoe down there to work on being out of control and cutting down his turnovers and Markieff down there to work on his defense and rebounding. Give me a break. Archie played in the D-league enough last year.
He earned his minutes in the DLeague. Jeff could have played Green more minutes if he didn't think Goodwin has improved. How the f*ck do you know what Goodwin is thinking? Get over yourself.
Five points. In the summer league he was forcing shots, ramming into players. Last year he was releasing shots under the basket that had zero chance of going in. When pressed, he turned the ball over. If you haven't seen the difference, then you are blind. He is not the same player he was earlier.
You can think whatever you want about his improvement in the D-League but he would get the same improvement in real NBA minutes too. And idk what Goodwin is thinking other than using my own common sense. Dragic and Thomas are not there anymore. Mmm? There are no other players on the team capable of playing pg except Bledsoe and Knight. Pretty obvious to me that Goodwin realizes he is going to get minutes and does not have to look over his shoulder. That would relax anybody. Don't you think?
As far as Green goes, he played 30 minutes last night. Tonight he played 11 minutes. You know what else? Earlier this season against the Bulls, Green got zero minutes. Tonight's lack of minutes for Green had nothing to do with Goodwin. Hornacek obviously does not like to play Green against the Bulls for whatever reason. And Green is a sg/sf on this team. Goodwin is a backup pg/sg on the team. They play totally different roles.
And who cares about the Summer league. Didn't Plumlee play great in the Summer league the past two Summers? Like that matters.
you might want to go back and see who Hornacek started at SG tonight. Oh and just in case you won't want to actually research it, Jeff started Green both games against the Bulls last year with 35 and 25 minutes respectfully. You may want to rethink your lame theory.Cutter wrote:I read somewhere that he is one of the top closers in the league scoring at an high efficiency in the last 3-4 minutes of the game. Guess Hornacek went with what was familiar. Once Knight is acclimated he will be in at closing time.ray ray wrote:Why wasn't Brendon Knight playing at the end of the game?? Isnt he a closer?? Isn't he better at creating shot for himself and teammates than Marcus Morris ?? .. I just don't get it
GoranTragic wrote:RunDogGun wrote:All this hatefest and stupidity and none of those Tucker haters complimenting or praising him for a 20/6 game with three steals?
IT also scored 20 points a game and how did that turn out? Tucker is a low basketball-IQ player that thinks he is Michael Jordan. Flying through the air just like when was playing NBA Jamginobiliflops wrote:These last 20+ games are essentially a tryout to see who sticks and who goes this offseason. Don't get so worked up guys. I think expecting the playoffs at this point given our last 8 games(1-7) is wishful thinking.
That is great news. Green and Tucker should be worried.
SunsReadyToRoll wrote:In Len We Trust wrote:If you take away all of Hornacek's crappy decision making this season then we have AT LEAST 10 more wins right now. Period.
39-17 and in 3rd seed??? GTFO with that nonsense.
ray ray wrote:Why wasn't Brendon Knight playing at the end of the game?? Isnt he a closer?? Isn't he better at creating shot for himself and teammates than Marcus Morris ?? .. I just don't get it
RunDogGun wrote:letsgosuns wrote:RunDogGun wrote:
He earned his minutes in the DLeague. Jeff could have played Green more minutes if he didn't think Goodwin has improved. How the f*ck do you know what Goodwin is thinking? Get over yourself.
Five points. In the summer league he was forcing shots, ramming into players. Last year he was releasing shots under the basket that had zero chance of going in. When pressed, he turned the ball over. If you haven't seen the difference, then you are blind. He is not the same player he was earlier.
You can think whatever you want about his improvement in the D-League but he would get the same improvement in real NBA minutes too. And idk what Goodwin is thinking other than using my own common sense. Dragic and Thomas are not there anymore. Mmm? There are no other players on the team capable of playing pg except Bledsoe and Knight. Pretty obvious to me that Goodwin realizes he is going to get minutes and does not have to look over his shoulder. That would relax anybody. Don't you think?
As far as Green goes, he played 30 minutes last night. Tonight he played 11 minutes. You know what else? Earlier this season against the Bulls, Green got zero minutes. Tonight's lack of minutes for Green had nothing to do with Goodwin. Hornacek obviously does not like to play Green against the Bulls for whatever reason. And Green is a sg/sf on this team. Goodwin is a backup pg/sg on the team. They play totally different roles.
And who cares about the Summer league. Didn't Plumlee play great in the Summer league the past two Summers? Like that matters.
You are so clueless, it is laughable. So Green is a small forward, and Hornacek just doesn't like playing Green against the Bulls? Is that what you actually are sticking with?
Plumlee played poorly in this last summer league, he didn't play for us the summer league before that. Again, do some research before you spew your crap.
bigfoot wrote:ray ray wrote:Why wasn't Brendon Knight playing at the end of the game?? Isnt he a closer?? Isn't he better at creating shot for himself and teammates than Marcus Morris ?? .. I just don't get it
Defense. Gotta get with it on the rotations. He and Archie let the Bulls go on that big run. Plus if Horny played him with Bledsoe people would have been crying about reverting to the 2 pg system.
RunDogGun wrote:It's not because you don't agree with me, it's because you completely made up a false theory about Green an Hornacek to back yourself up. But when you research it. Your theory is full of crap. Four games we've played against CHI, under Jeff, and Green has started three of them. On this, you are clueless. Jeff just doesn't like playing Green against Chicago?
letsgosuns wrote:RunDogGun wrote:It's not because you don't agree with me, it's because you completely made up a false theory about Green an Hornacek to back yourself up. But when you research it. Your theory is full of crap. Four games we've played against CHI, under Jeff, and Green has started three of them. On this, you are clueless. Jeff just doesn't like playing Green against Chicago?
Obviously not. Zero minutes in the first game this year. 11 minutes this game even though he played well offensively. When you score 10 points and have 3 assists with no turnovers and no fouls and shoot well in a limited amount of time and play unselfishly, it does not really make sense why do you not play more. How can you not see that? Forget last season. This year is different. It is quite apparent to me that Hornacek does like the matchup that Green has against the Bulls this year.
bwgood77 wrote:bigfoot wrote:ray ray wrote:Why wasn't Brendon Knight playing at the end of the game?? Isnt he a closer?? Isn't he better at creating shot for himself and teammates than Marcus Morris ?? .. I just don't get it
Defense. Gotta get with it on the rotations. He and Archie let the Bulls go on that big run. Plus if Horny played him with Bledsoe people would have been crying about reverting to the 2 pg system.
So Knight and Bledsoe didn't play together? I wasn't able to see the game, but I thought they were the perfect pg duo to play together because Knight is really a better 2 guard who shoots well from deep and can also handle the ball if needed.
I just figured they would play together maybe 16 minutes a game and alone another 16 minutes a game with a SG when the other sat. I think that's how we should utilize them at least.