Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST

RaisingArizona · Post #401 » by **RaisingArizona** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:06 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Is it just me or does Len record the most low-key and unproductive double digit rebound performances in the league? It's only when I look at the box score do I see that he's got 13 rebounds.

Because he rebounds his 7 missed layups a game. So misleading reading the box score on him.

YouTube · Post #402 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:07 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Is it just me or does Len record the most low-key and unproductive double digit rebound performances in the league? It's only when I look at the box score do I see that he's got 13 rebounds.

Its because he pads his own stats. Easy to get 10+ rebounds when you let guys constantly stuff you at the rim every 4 touches of the ball. Also have to count in the missed 2 footers that brick back to him, so thats another 3-5 rebounds as well.

Post #403 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:07 am

Mike James has now recorded a 0-9fg, 1-10fg, 1-11fg and now 1-13fg shooting performances this season

grumpysaddle · Post #404 » by **grumpysaddle** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:07 am

Well... that was an enjoyable evening of television! WOW!

grumpysaddle · Post #405 » by **grumpysaddle** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:07 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Mike James has now recorded a 0-9fg, 1-10fg, 1-11fg and now 1-13fg shooting performances this season

GOAT!

SideSwipe · Post #406 » by **SideSwipe** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:07 am

Monroe looked good here tonight. He kept up his pace better than I thought he might. Just one game, but it sure felt good to have someone who could finish around the rim down there. He's a good compliment for out outside players too. 20/11/2/1

OzzyAZ · Post #407 » by **OzzyAZ** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:09 am

The worst part is that Fitz was in the crowd for that game...sorry Larry

grumpysaddle · Post #408 » by **grumpysaddle** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:10 am

Alan Williams can't come back soon enough.

Fixes for the Suns that should happen immediately:

- Get Williams back.
- Keep Monroe, cut Len and James.
- Trade some crap for a competent vet PG to keep games from being total embarrassments (George Hill maybe).
- Pay refs to give Booker Harden-esque calls on both ends.
- Blackmail Sarver into selling the team to someone that isn't the worst owner in the league.
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RaisingArizona · Post #409 » by **RaisingArizona** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:10 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Mike James has now recorded a 0-9fg, 1-10fg, 1-11fg and now 1-13fg shooting performances this season

Our 2017 edition of Sonny Weems!

grumpysaddle · Post #410 » by **grumpysaddle** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:11 am

ginobiliflops wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Mike James has now recorded a 0-9fg, 1-10fg, 1-11fg and now 1-13fg shooting performances this season

Our 2017 edition of Sonny Weems!

More Shannon Brown than Weems. Puke.gif regardless.

Blackification · Post #411 » by **Blackification** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:13 am

It's absolutely idiotic that Monroe comes in and drops 23/11 and we didn't even want to let him play and wanted to just trade him or waive him. What the ****? Way better than Len

RaisingArizona · Post #412 » by **RaisingArizona** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:14 am

Blackification wrote:It's absolutely idiotic that Monroe comes in and drops 23/11 and we didn't even want to let him play and wanted to just trade him or waive him. What the ****? Way better than Len

Says something about our FO, doesn't it?

TOO · Post #413 » by **TOO** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:16 am

Blackification wrote:It's absolutely idiotic that Monroe comes in and drops 23/11 and we didn't even want to let him play and wanted to just trade him or waive him. What the ****? Way better than Len

Yeah, I don't get the whole lets get rid of him for nothing thing. He can play. He's not old, I dont see why we dont use him. He's not gonna move the needle enough to ruin our pick.

PhxLax · Post #414 » by **PhxLax** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:20 am

Couple of my thoughts:

1. Keep Monroe. He's good.
2. Trade Chandler/Len. Monroe/Sauce is where it's at.
3. Chriss & Bender are awful draft picks. Truth hurts. Move on.
4. Ulis is not starting-caliber PG. He's a solid cast member.
5. Speaking of PG, Mike James prob worst PG I've ever seen.
6. Not a fan of Booker bringing ball up like Harden. Need a PG.
7. Sorry to say it, but next season u best PG is prob B. Knight!

next year:

C -- Monroe / Sauce / Bender
F -- FA veteran / Chriss / Bender
F -- Warren / Jackson
G -- Booker / FA veteran / Reed
G -- Draft-Pick / Knight / Ulis

bwoolf2 · Post #415 » by **bwoolf2** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:25 am

[quote="PhxLax"]Couple of my thoughts:

1. Keep Monroe. He's good.
2. Trade Chandler/Len. Monroe/Sauce is where it's at.
3. Chriss & Bender are awful draft picks. Truth hurts. Move on.
4. Ulis is not starting-caliber PG. He's a solid cast member.
5. Speaking of PG, Mike James prob worst PG I've ever seen.
6. Not a fan of Booker bringing ball up like Harden. Need a PG.
7. Sorry to say it, but next season u best PG is prob B. Knight!

You cant possible have point 3 in there when they are younger and knowing bigs take longer to develop and have actually both had a few good games this year and then make point 4 about Ulis being a solid cast member.

Fo-Real · Post #416 » by **Fo-Real** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:28 am

Well first off, Monroe is what he is supposed to be. Instant 20 and 10 guy without even being very acclimated. Scored at will one on one down low and has GREAT HANDS ( looking at you ALEX!!!). Our still green 4s (BOTH OF THEM), did nothing, Chris more so but both negative factors just the same. Rockets get superstar calls because harden and Paul are just that, we couldn't possibly score and keep up with the Mike D pace. They took the heart out of the team making everything and when we actually tried to play d, TOUCH FOULS CALLED EVERY TIME. We still scored 100 plus, they got us off balance defensively, other than Bender and Chriss, James, Alex and Tyler were not helpful. Oh well, throw it out and move on. GOOD GAME MOOSE!!

irish22022 · Post #417 » by **irish22022** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:30 am

The problem isn't the tank and stocking of picks, it's that we are really unreliable drafters. Bender and Criss are young, I get that, but they don't look like game changing players for our team and they don't look like role players on a championship team either.

Booker is good, but he's not our Superstar. Warren is a good role player. But really, we aren't getting enough.

RaisingArizona · Post #418 » by **RaisingArizona** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:32 am

Missing on Len really set us back

Hesh · Post #419 » by **Hesh** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:36 am

Gave up 2nd most points in a half in all of NBA history. It hasn't even been 20 games in, yet we're breaking records possibly even at record breaking pace!

grumpysaddle · Post #420 » by **grumpysaddle** » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:40 am

Suns sucked tonight, but Rockets couldn't miss in the first half and got every superstar call. Suns were never able to find a rhythm after getting down big because they couldn't even breathe on Harden. Not saying the Suns would have had a chance either way, but it's incredible that anyone is a ref apologist after watching the Suns for more than a few games.