2019 Draft Discussion - Suns with 6th pick!

[Ghost of Kleine]

The best under the radar sharpshooters we should look at in the 2nd round:

1- Fletcher McGee(Wofford). He's averaging 49% on his fgs, 43% on his threes, and around 91% on his free throws as well. He's a lethal shooter, pretty much anywhere on the floor.

https://youtu.be/CHHkpoIHqqM . 36 points/ 8 threes.

https://youtu.be/mMOkWez-hjs . 45 points/ 11 threes.

https://youtu.be/pjblw1QIZH4 . 9 of 10 from 3 vs. VMI. He's a rich man's reddick, or a hybrid of Eddie house and mark price. And he's got some bounce too.
https://youtu.be/1Wi5GP6R9AU .

2- Tyler Herro- a 6'5 195 lb. Guard.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/tyler-herro-1.html .

He's averaging 52% on his fgs, 35% on his threes, and 92% on his free throws.

https://youtu.be/Svbc35qaXGs . 45 points.

https://youtu.be/LysgZTwoZ98 .

3- Mike Daum- He's a 6'9 235 lb. power forward who played for South Dakota state. He's been averaging 58% on his fgs, 35% of his threes, and 82% of his free throws.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/mike-daum-1.html .

https://youtu.be/L6iFutTTdc0.

https://youtu.be/mZV_pNASd80 . 51 points. He's a bit lumbering for a big man, but he's good overall offensively, and a decent 3 point shooter as well.

** FOREIGN PROSPECTS **:

1- Luka Samanic: He's a 6'11 220 lbs. Power forward who's averaging 51% on his fgs, 38% on his threes, and 72% on his free throws. He's good good athleticism, is fluid and a good perimeter defender.

He's not a bad choice for a stretch 4 in the 2nd round.

https://youtu.be/vxWchEpXe4g .

https://youtu.be/NwnAhs1N3ug .

2- Boris Simanic: He's a 6'11 215 lb. Power forward that's averaging 63% on his fgs, 35% on his threes, and 75% of his free throws.

https://youtu.be/RVKypphcbKI .

3- Deividis Sirvydis- a 6'8 190 lb. Shooting guard- He's averaging 50% on his fgs, 41% on his threes, and 73% on his free throws.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/euro/players/deividas-sirvydis-1.html .

https://youtu.be/bEkHYWbMvXM .

https://youtu.be/TspalvUwNtc .



4- Kostja Mushidi : A 6'5 guard (Belgian) 225 lbs. Who is kind of a mix of Malcolm Brogdon and Andre Miller. Or a P.J. Tucker defensively in the form of a guard.

https://youtu.be/20xD__7XwNU .

https://youtu.be/-5H3vFnq44w .







2-

We should be trading away all of our 2nd round picks for veterans. We don't need any more young projects.

I hear what you're saying, but the idea here is low cost high reward bench depth, and shooting, without cutting into our cap space going forward.

I'd rather see us add veterans to our starters, and then add perimeter talent to our bench depth to develop as assets to be able to use in future trades.

These low cost players are not guaranteed as 2nd rounders, but could bring added shooting proficiency at next to no cost.

And would provide additional insurance (depth) in the event that we don't get our desired targets in free agency.

[bigfoot]

The best under the radar sharpshooters we should look at in the 2nd round:

1- Fletcher McGee(Wofford). He's averaging 49% on his fgs, 43% on his threes, and around 91% on his free throws as well. He's a lethal shooter, pretty much anywhere on the floor.

https://youtu.be/CHHkpoIHqqM . 36 points/ 8 threes.

https://youtu.be/mMOkWez-hjs . 45 points/ 11 threes.

https://youtu.be/pjblw1QIZH4 . 9 of 10 from 3 vs. VMI. He's a rich man's reddick, or a hybrid of Eddie house and mark price. And he's got some bounce too.
https://youtu.be/1Wi5GP6R9AU .

2- Tyler Herro- a 6'5 195 lb. Guard.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/tyler-herro-1.html .

He's averaging 52% on his fgs, 35% on his threes, and 92% on his free throws.

https://youtu.be/Svbc35qaXGs . 45 points.

https://youtu.be/LysgZTwoZ98 .

3- Mike Daum- He's a 6'9 235 lb. power forward who played for South Dakota state. He's been averaging 58% on his fgs, 35% of his threes, and 82% of his free throws.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/mike-daum-1.html .

https://youtu.be/L6iFutTTdc0.

https://youtu.be/mZV_pNASd80 . 51 points. He's a bit lumbering for a big man, but he's good overall offensively, and a decent 3 point shooter as well.

** FOREIGN PROSPECTS **:

1- Luka Samanic: He's a 6'11 220 lbs. Power forward who's averaging 51% on his fgs, 38% on his threes, and 72% on his free throws. He's good good athleticism, is fluid and a good perimeter defender.

He's not a bad choice for a stretch 4 in the 2nd round.

https://youtu.be/vxWchEpXe4g .

https://youtu.be/NwnAhs1N3ug .

2- Boris Simanic: He's a 6'11 215 lb. Power forward that's averaging 63% on his fgs, 35% on his threes, and 75% of his free throws.

https://youtu.be/RVKypphcbKI .

3- Deividis Sirvydis- a 6'8 190 lb. Shooting guard- He's averaging 50% on his fgs, 41% on his threes, and 73% on his free throws.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/euro/players/deividas-sirvydis-1.html .

https://youtu.be/bEkHYWbMvXM .

https://youtu.be/TspalvUwNtc .



4- Kostja Mushidi : A 6'5 guard (Belgian) 225 lbs. Who is kind of a mix of Malcolm Brogdon and Andre Miller. Or a P.J. Tucker defensively in the form of a guard.

https://youtu.be/20xD__7XwNU .

https://youtu.be/-5H3vFnq44w .







2-

We should be trading away all of our 2nd round picks for veterans. We don't need any more young projects.

I hear what you're saying, but the idea here is low cost high reward bench depth, and shooting, without cutting into our cap space going forward.

I'd rather see us add veterans to our starters, and then add perimeter talent to our bench depth to develop as assets to be able to use in future trades.

These low cost players are not guaranteed as 2nd rounders, but could bring added shooting proficiency at next to no cost.

And would provide additional insurance (depth) in the event that we don't get our desired targets in free agency.

These guys will add value to the team by carrying a backpack and getting Chick-fil-a before the players get on the team bus. We can pick up guys like this in the G-league. We should trade away our picks for real veteran NBA players.

[Blonde]

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This board would have an aneurysm if we drafted Barrett but I’m super high on him. I’d rather have him than Josh/TJ/Oubre pretty easily. Maybe Bridges too but that’s hard to say because they play such different roles.

RJ is legitmately a complete offensive package - his shooting percentages aren’t flashy right now but he’s got a beautiful stroke and a number of moves to get his shot off. NBA spacing will open his game up to another level. As a secondary playmaker you really can’t ask for much better from a prospect, but I think he has primary playmaker capabilities. He’s got the physical attributes to be a monster defender - 6’7 with a 6’10 wingspan, athletic, wiry strong but with broad shoulders and a frame to out weight on.

It’s hard to figure out how he’d work on this roster given he’s a 2/3, but I don’t really care. I’d be extremely hesitant to trade out of the second pick if we landed there because RJ is a great prospect who is getting downplayed because of the narrative around Zion. Plus he’s Nash’s godson so I’m sure that would have some appeal in Phoenix.

Luka was playing against NBA players since he was 14 and 15 too. He was too worthless to draft with too many flaws. This is just part of the RJ hype machine. We don't need another freaking worthless wing on this team.

I’m seriously not sure if this is supposed to be green font or not.

I’d rather take a gamble on a playmaking wing than any other archetype of player. I wouldn’t mind drafting Barrett and dumping all of Josh, Warren, and Oubre.

[bigfoot]

This board would have an aneurysm if we drafted Barrett but I’m super high on him. I’d rather have him than Josh/TJ/Oubre pretty easily. Maybe Bridges too but that’s hard to say because they play such different roles.

RJ is legitmately a complete offensive package - his shooting percentages aren’t flashy right now but he’s got a beautiful stroke and a number of moves to get his shot off. NBA spacing will open his game up to another level. As a secondary playmaker you really can’t ask for much better from a prospect, but I think he has primary playmaker capabilities. He’s got the physical attributes to be a monster defender - 6’7 with a 6’10 wingspan, athletic, wiry strong but with broad shoulders and a frame to out weight on.

It’s hard to figure out how he’d work on this roster given he’s a 2/3, but I don’t really care. I’d be extremely hesitant to trade out of the second pick if we landed there because RJ is a great prospect who is getting downplayed because of the narrative around Zion. Plus he’s Nash’s godson so I’m sure that would have some appeal in Phoenix.

Luka was playing against NBA players since he was 14 and 15 too. He was too worthless to draft with too many flaws. This is just part of the RJ hype machine. We don't need another freaking worthless wing on this team.

I’m seriously not sure if this is supposed to be green font or not.

I’d rather take a gamble on a playmaking wing than any other archetype of player. I wouldn’t mind drafting Barrett and dumping all of Josh, Warren, and Oubre.

Serious in the fact that RJ is not the magic bullet that will fix this team. Even if we were lucky enough that he turned into something good it would be another three years before he could help turn this mess around. Again our pick should be packaged and traded away for real NBA talent.

[bigfoot]

This board would have an aneurysm if we drafted Barrett but I’m super high on him. I’d rather have him than Josh/TJ/Oubre pretty easily. Maybe Bridges too but that’s hard to say because they play such different roles.

RJ is legitmately a complete offensive package - his shooting percentages aren’t flashy right now but he’s got a beautiful stroke and a number of moves to get his shot off. NBA spacing will open his game up to another level. As a secondary playmaker you really can’t ask for much better from a prospect, but I think he has primary playmaker capabilities. He’s got the physical attributes to be a monster defender - 6’7 with a 6’10 wingspan, athletic, wiry strong but with broad shoulders and a frame to out weight on.

It’s hard to figure out how he’d work on this roster given he’s a 2/3, but I don’t really care. I’d be extremely hesitant to trade out of the second pick if we landed there because RJ is a great prospect who is getting downplayed because of the narrative around Zion. Plus he’s Nash’s godson so I’m sure that would have some appeal in Phoenix.

Luka was playing against NBA players since he was 14 and 15 too. He was too worthless to draft with too many flaws. This is just part of the RJ hype machine. We don't need another freaking worthless wing on this team.

I’m seriously not sure if this is supposed to be green font or not.

I’d rather take a gamble on a playmaking wing than any other archetype of player. I wouldn’t mind drafting Barrett and dumping all of Josh, Warren, and Oubre.

Also, any thought that RJ is going to walk in his rookie year and be better than any of Jackson, Warren, or Oubre is laughable. These guys will **** down his throat every day. Remember 18 year old rookie versus 23-25 year old.

[sunskerr]

Don’t know how feasible this is but since we probably won’t get the #1 pick with the new odds I would try to use whomever we draft to get someone like DLo in a trade. Is it possible to draft for the Nets and then they can s&t DLo to us?

[bwgood77]

Luka was playing against NBA players since he was 14 and 15 too. He was too worthless to draft with too many flaws. This is just part of the RJ hype machine. We don't need another freaking worthless wing on this team.

I’m seriously not sure if this is supposed to be green font or not.

I’d rather take a gamble on a playmaking wing than any other archetype of player. I wouldn’t mind drafting Barrett and dumping all of Josh, Warren, and Oubre.

Serious in the fact that RJ is not the magic bullet that will fix this team. Even if we were lucky enough that he turned into something good it would be another three years before he could help turn this mess around. Again our pick should be packaged and traded away for real NBA talent.

You were just comparing him to Luka who it appears you are quite high on. Do you feel he should be sitting behind vets? You don't think he was the magic bullet to fix this team? Your posts suggest otherwise. Would you have rather traded away our pick last summer for a vet than draft Luka?

I am personally not really familiar with this draft, and haven't studied most of the players that much, but any terrible team's best chance of finding a star is through the draft, particularly if they have a pick near the top.

Now, I depending on the deal I may think trading it is a good idea, because it doesn't appear this draft is great, but it's certainly not a given. We likely are not turning into a competitive playoff team in one year and most of our core won't be ready for the for a few years anyway. Seems like vets don't want to be here if you've been paying attention.

[bwgood77]

Don’t know how feasible this is but since we probably won’t get the #1 pick with the new odds I would try to use whomever we draft to get someone like DLo in a trade. Is it possible to draft for the Nets and then they can s&t DLo to us?

Why would the Nets trade DLo for a rookie when he is leading their team to the playoffs and being their first young all star in years?

[bigfoot]

I’m seriously not sure if this is supposed to be green font or not.

I’d rather take a gamble on a playmaking wing than any other archetype of player. I wouldn’t mind drafting Barrett and dumping all of Josh, Warren, and Oubre.

Serious in the fact that RJ is not the magic bullet that will fix this team. Even if we were lucky enough that he turned into something good it would be another three years before he could help turn this mess around. Again our pick should be packaged and traded away for real NBA talent.

You were just comparing him to Luka who it appears you are quite high on. Do you feel he should be sitting behind vets? You don't think he was the magic bullet to fix this team? Your posts suggest otherwise. Would you have rather traded away our pick last summer for a vet than draft Luka?

I am personally not really familiar with this draft, and haven't studied most of the players that much, but any terrible team's best chance of finding a star is through the draft, particularly if they have a pick near the top.

Now, I depending on the deal I may think trading it is a good idea, because it doesn't appear this draft is great, but it's certainly not a given. We likely are not turning into a competitive playoff team in one year and most of our core won't be ready for the for a few years anyway. Seems like vets don't want to be here if you've been paying attention.

No ... I'm laughing that anybody suggests RJ Barrett is going to make a difference for the Suns when we passed on Luka. The post was about RJ Barrett playing against NBA talent at 15 years old and doing well. The fact that people could post this nonsense and then dismiss Luka last year is what is ridiculous. It's just spin by the Barrett camp. This guy isn't even in the same jock strap zip code as Luka.

Simply put our draft pick and some future picks need to be traded for real veteran talent ASAP.

[Blonde]

Serious in the fact that RJ is not the magic bullet that will fix this team. Even if we were lucky enough that he turned into something good it would be another three years before he could help turn this mess around. Again our pick should be packaged and traded away for real NBA talent.

You were just comparing him to Luka who it appears you are quite high on. Do you feel he should be sitting behind vets? You don't think he was the magic bullet to fix this team? Your posts suggest otherwise. Would you have rather traded away our pick last summer for a vet than draft Luka?

I am personally not really familiar with this draft, and haven't studied most of the players that much, but any terrible team's best chance of finding a star is through the draft, particularly if they have a pick near the top.

Now, I depending on the deal I may think trading it is a good idea, because it doesn't appear this draft is great, but it's certainly not a given. We likely are not turning into a competitive playoff team in one year and most of our core won't be ready for the for a few years anyway. Seems like vets don't want to be here if you've been paying attention.

No ... I'm laughing that anybody suggests RJ Barrett is going to make a difference for the Suns when we passed on Luka. The post was about RJ Barrett playing against NBA talent at 15 years old and doing well. The fact that people could post this nonsense and then dismiss Luka last year is what is ridiculous. It's just spin by the Barrett camp. This guy isn't even in the same jock strap zip code as Luka.

Simply put our draft pick and some future picks need to be traded for real veteran talent ASAP.

I didn’t compare him to Luka in my post, nor did anybody else. Nobody said he’s the same level of prospect and nobody said he’ll turn this franchise around in the next few years. But he can still be a very good player. In my eyes he’s the safest bet to become a star in this class outside of Zion - admittedly that probability is not super high.

I quoted that tweet because I wanted to talk on RJ because I feel he is being overlooked. The fact that he has played against pros has zero impact on my evaluation of him. I was all for drafting Luka a year ago, and if he’s on the board I’m all for drafting Barrett this year, assuming the pick can’t be moved for a legitimate star player. But I’m not trading that pick for chump change because like BW said, the draft is the surest bet to obtaining a star.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'm cool trading the pick but the Orlando Magic summer of 2017 should serve as reminder of when desperation trading can go very wrong.

Or the kings in the summer of 2015 when they made that idiot trade with the sixers to clear cap space to sign bad players.

Unfortunately short of signing LeBron James shortcuts very seldom work.

[bwgood77]

Serious in the fact that RJ is not the magic bullet that will fix this team. Even if we were lucky enough that he turned into something good it would be another three years before he could help turn this mess around. Again our pick should be packaged and traded away for real NBA talent.

You were just comparing him to Luka who it appears you are quite high on. Do you feel he should be sitting behind vets? You don't think he was the magic bullet to fix this team? Your posts suggest otherwise. Would you have rather traded away our pick last summer for a vet than draft Luka?

I am personally not really familiar with this draft, and haven't studied most of the players that much, but any terrible team's best chance of finding a star is through the draft, particularly if they have a pick near the top.

Now, I depending on the deal I may think trading it is a good idea, because it doesn't appear this draft is great, but it's certainly not a given. We likely are not turning into a competitive playoff team in one year and most of our core won't be ready for the for a few years anyway. Seems like vets don't want to be here if you've been paying attention.

No ... I'm laughing that anybody suggests RJ Barrett is going to make a difference for the Suns when we passed on Luka. The post was about RJ Barrett playing against NBA talent at 15 years old and doing well. The fact that people could post this nonsense and then dismiss Luka last year is what is ridiculous. It's just spin by the Barrett camp. This guy isn't even in the same jock strap zip code as Luka.

Simply put our draft pick and some future picks need to be traded for real veteran talent ASAP.

Well, I just posted a tweet about him, and was as high on Luka as anyone. I have no real opinion on Barrett at this point. Blonde was very high on Luka too...and he's high on Barrett. I remember both of us discussing Luka far more at this time last year than you were...though of course you do like to nonstop post about Luka after the draft when it's fairly irrelevant and pointless.

So you mentioning people talking about Barrett making a difference and acting like they thought Luka wouldn't make a difference in this discussion is nonsense, considering Blonde was probably higher than you were on Luka at this point last year.

You were likely arguing we should trade the pick last year too at this point.

Now, personally I haven't watched Barrett like I watched Luka, and had always just wondered if he was a good fit, not knowing a ton about his game....but looking at the #s so far, he is at:

23.1 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 4 apg this year while shooting 45% from the field and 33.1% from 3

Last year Luka had 16 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.3 apg while shooting 45.1% from the field and 32.9% from 3

They were both listed at 6'7 and were 19 years old.

[Ghost of Kleine]

We should be trading away all of our 2nd round picks for veterans. We don't need any more young projects.

I hear what you're saying, but the idea here is low cost high reward bench depth, and shooting, without cutting into our cap space going forward.

I'd rather see us add veterans to our starters, and then add perimeter talent to our bench depth to develop as assets to be able to use in future trades.

These low cost players are not guaranteed as 2nd rounders, but could bring added shooting proficiency at next to no cost.

And would provide additional insurance (depth) in the event that we don't get our desired targets in free agency.

These guys will add value to the team by carrying a backpack and getting Chick-fil-a before the players get on the team bus. We can pick up guys like this in the G-league. We should trade away our picks for real veteran NBA players.

I would also rather use open roster spots for veterans that can contribute to us getting better, but these 2nd rounders could also be used as assets down the road, or as fillers in trades too.


Or the international prospects could be draft and stashed to be developed or they can develop in the g league as well.

Either way, they're low cost assets with good potential.

Now if we could get Bogdanovic or McDermott, then great!

But again, if we can't land any decent stretch 4s' or shooters in free agency, Then getting young low cost versatile players with great shooting percentages, that have experience playing in the FIBA /Euroleague championships, should be every bit as experienced or at least comparable to those found in the G league.


Most of all, they'd bring much needed much improved shooting to our perimeter game, as well as to our foul shooting too.

[bigfoot]

You were just comparing him to Luka who it appears you are quite high on. Do you feel he should be sitting behind vets? You don't think he was the magic bullet to fix this team? Your posts suggest otherwise. Would you have rather traded away our pick last summer for a vet than draft Luka?

I am personally not really familiar with this draft, and haven't studied most of the players that much, but any terrible team's best chance of finding a star is through the draft, particularly if they have a pick near the top.

Now, I depending on the deal I may think trading it is a good idea, because it doesn't appear this draft is great, but it's certainly not a given. We likely are not turning into a competitive playoff team in one year and most of our core won't be ready for the for a few years anyway. Seems like vets don't want to be here if you've been paying attention.

No ... I'm laughing that anybody suggests RJ Barrett is going to make a difference for the Suns when we passed on Luka. The post was about RJ Barrett playing against NBA talent at 15 years old and doing well. The fact that people could post this nonsense and then dismiss Luka last year is what is ridiculous. It's just spin by the Barrett camp. This guy isn't even in the same jock strap zip code as Luka.

Simply put our draft pick and some future picks need to be traded for real veteran talent ASAP.

Well, I just posted a tweet about him, and was as high on Luka as anyone. I have no real opinion on Barrett at this point. Blonde was very high on Luka too...and he's high on Barrett. I remember both of us discussing Luka far more at this time last year than you were...though of course you do like to nonstop post about Luka after the draft when it's fairly irrelevant and pointless.

So you mentioning people talking about Barrett making a difference and acting like they thought Luka wouldn't make a difference in this discussion is nonsense, considering Blonde was probably higher than you were on Luka at this point last year.

You were likely arguing we should trade the pick last year too at this point.

Now, personally I haven't watched Barrett like I watched Luka, and had always just wondered if he was a good fit, not knowing a ton about his game....but looking at the #s so far, he is at:

23.1 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 4 apg this year while shooting 45% from the field and 33.1% from 3

Last year Luka had 16 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.3 apg while shooting 45.1% from the field and 32.9% from 3

They were both listed at 6'7 and were 19 years old.

Of course we should not have traded last year's pick. That's stupid. We are in a completely different situation now. We have 4 rookies and Josh Jackson. We don't need more young players. We need to move our picks and get veterans. Not sure how you don't see that is what I am suggesting.

The real gripe is puff piece by Kennedy to try to inflate Barrett's value and even putting him at the same level as Doncic. NCAA overvalued and Euroleague under appreciated.

[bwgood77]

I can't claim to have any idea how well Barrett will do, but he has been at the top of his class for years, and most vets we have added have been pointless and expensive. Now I know Jackson was also at the top of his class, but not every guy will pan out, but that doesn't mean Barrett wouldn't.

I'd definitely probably be fine swapping the pick and sending out Johnson for Holiday or even Conley, but just flat out trading a pick that could be Barrett for those guys...I could see many pundits thinking a team like us doing that being ludicrous and it also could really bite us in the ass once again. You never know and there isn't a clear cut path.

Plus we don't know what deals will be out there, if any good ones. If a lot of people think the draft drops off big after 1 those picks might not hold premier enough value to get a really good vet. There simply might not be a worthwhile trade to do.

A lot of people complain about us not making trades when there simply may have not been any good ones to make in the first place.

[Damkac]

Luka was playing against NBA players since he was 14 and 15 too. He was too worthless to draft with too many flaws. This is just part of the RJ hype machine. We don't need another freaking worthless wing on this team.

I’m seriously not sure if this is supposed to be green font or not.

I’d rather take a gamble on a playmaking wing than any other archetype of player. I wouldn’t mind drafting Barrett and dumping all of Josh, Warren, and Oubre.

Also, any thought that RJ is going to walk in his rookie year and be better than any of Jackson, Warren, or Oubre is laughable. These guys will **** down his throat every day. Remember 18 year old rookie versus 23-25 year old.

Being better than Jackson and Oubre is not that hard.

[WeekapaugGroove]

The Athletic will be running a bunch of draft articles. If you have a sub I would recommend checking them out. This one on Barrett and Redish.

https://theathletic.com/822553/2019/02/25/nba-draft-college-coaches-poll-what-do-coaches-think-of-dukes-core-players-other-than-zion-williamson/

I haven't been real high on Barrett but I'm starting to warm up to him and hell I just named my son Barrett so maybe it's meant to be

A couple of quotes from coaches I found interesting.

Good:
“I think he’s developed about as much as anyone else has in the last 18 months. I still think his best position is he’s going to be a tall point. But he’s a guy you can put out there and be a playmaker. He’ll absorb some contact and be a finisher. His finishing is not going to be a question."

Bad:
“Scorer’s mentality. He had no interest in guarding. He had an interest in gambling and going for steals. He’s very left-hand dominant. In my scout, I thought Reddish had a higher ceiling.”


I'm very intrigued with Reddish:

Good:
“I think he’s as good as it comes. His IQ of the game is good. His ability to get shots. He’s fairly tough. He’s got a chance to be really good. A lot of this stuff depends on where he goes. He needs to develop and adjust. I think all three guys probably have the ability to defend.”

Bad: A couple mentions of his toughness and mindset.
“He’s got the look of a great NBA player. I’m not sure he’s got enough of the mentality to bring it every day, but he is talented. My goodness, he’s got the tools for sure.”

[lilfishi22]

The Athletic will be running a bunch of draft articles. If you have a sub I would recommend checking them out. This one on Barrett and Redish.

https://theathletic.com/822553/2019/02/25/nba-draft-college-coaches-poll-what-do-coaches-think-of-dukes-core-players-other-than-zion-williamson/

I haven't been real high on Barrett but I'm starting to warm up to him and hell I just named my son Barrett so maybe it's meant to be

A couple of quotes from coaches I found interesting.

Good:
“I think he’s developed about as much as anyone else has in the last 18 months. I still think his best position is he’s going to be a tall point. But he’s a guy you can put out there and be a playmaker. He’ll absorb some contact and be a finisher. His finishing is not going to be a question."

Bad:
“Scorer’s mentality. He had no interest in guarding. He had an interest in gambling and going for steals. He’s very left-hand dominant. In my scout, I thought Reddish had a higher ceiling.”


I'm very intrigued with Reddish:

Good:
“I think he’s as good as it comes. His IQ of the game is good. His ability to get shots. He’s fairly tough. He’s got a chance to be really good. A lot of this stuff depends on where he goes. He needs to develop and adjust. I think all three guys probably have the ability to defend.”

Bad: A couple mentions of his toughness and mindset.
“He’s got the look of a great NBA player. I’m not sure he’s got enough of the mentality to bring it every day, but he is talented. My goodness, he’s got the tools for sure.”

Massive turn off for me

[bwgood77]

The Athletic will be running a bunch of draft articles. If you have a sub I would recommend checking them out. This one on Barrett and Redish.

https://theathletic.com/822553/2019/02/25/nba-draft-college-coaches-poll-what-do-coaches-think-of-dukes-core-players-other-than-zion-williamson/

I haven't been real high on Barrett but I'm starting to warm up to him and hell I just named my son Barrett so maybe it's meant to be

A couple of quotes from coaches I found interesting.

Good:
“I think he’s developed about as much as anyone else has in the last 18 months. I still think his best position is he’s going to be a tall point. But he’s a guy you can put out there and be a playmaker. He’ll absorb some contact and be a finisher. His finishing is not going to be a question."

Bad:
“Scorer’s mentality. He had no interest in guarding. He had an interest in gambling and going for steals. He’s very left-hand dominant. In my scout, I thought Reddish had a higher ceiling.”


I'm very intrigued with Reddish:

Good:
“I think he’s as good as it comes. His IQ of the game is good. His ability to get shots. He’s fairly tough. He’s got a chance to be really good. A lot of this stuff depends on where he goes. He needs to develop and adjust. I think all three guys probably have the ability to defend.”

Bad: A couple mentions of his toughness and mindset.
“He’s got the look of a great NBA player. I’m not sure he’s got enough of the mentality to bring it every day, but he is talented. My goodness, he’s got the tools for sure.”

Yeah, I liked Reddish the most coming into the season...for the Suns. I thought he was a little better playmaker than he's shown but I think the other guys just dominate more.

Obviously Zion has passed him up on my board, but Reddish has always been very intriguing. We'd obviously have to move on from Jackson and Oubre though if we take Reddish. I still am probably as high on Brandon Clarke for our needs at this point though as anyone outside of Zion.

[Blonde]

I look at Reddish vs Barrett the same way I looked at Jackson vs Tatum in the draft. I wouldn’t be surprised if Reddish ends up a better pro than Barrett, but the diversity of skillset and mentality makes me value Barrett more. That’s why I preferred Jackson two years ago, even though he had more questions around his game. That being said, I think Barrett is easily the best wing prospect out of those 4, and outside of Doncic he’s my favorite wing prospect in the last 5 years. He blows out Wiggins/Jabari/Ingram who were heavily praised coming out.

I’m not sure Reddish can ever be a primary option, dynamic ball handler/distributer, or lockdown defender. And if he can never achieve those then where is the value in him being a top 5 pick? Can his reported lack of passion be trusted on this team? Barrett looks way more comfortable and fluid bringing the ball up court and initiating offense when you watch Duke games. He’s the main initiator and scorer as a freshman on the best team in the country, and seems to be stepping up without Zion.

There is real talent in this draft. Reddish is a legit prospect too. Morant has his fans, and I’m teetering on how I feel about him. Though I can guarantee you that if Barrett was playing for Murray State without any other 5 star recruits he’d be averaging a crazier statline than Morant. There will always be late risers too. I’m not even mentioning Garland who looked special in the games he played, nor Hunter who I would have taken in the lottery last year and has improved every facet of his game.

Point being we should be very careful about trading our pick. It’s not even about falling in love with a prospect, it’s about not making a rash decision at the expense a sustainable future. Yes - we made a mistake bringing on 5 rookies last year. But I think it’s wisest to move some of the current guys for established talent, then supplement that with another top pick.