2020 Season/Offseason (FA/Trade) Speculation - the Season Resumes

[Fo-Real]

I swear some of you must think we have a 20 man roster to fill

We just sign the standard 17 players and add the rest to our G-League team!

Oh wait...

Because we can no longer assign guys to the G League, oh wait?!?!

[nevetsov]

I swear some of you must think we have a 20 man roster to fill

We just sign the standard 17 players and add the rest to our G-League team!

Oh wait...

Because we can no longer assign guys to the G League, oh wait?!?!

We can still assign guys down there, yes. And we have two ways spots we can use for spots 16 and 17. But we can no longer offer to sign guys directly to the team and have them developed the way we want, because we don't have that control.

[Ghost of Kleine]

We just sign the standard 17 players and add the rest to our G-League team!

Oh wait...

Because we can no longer assign guys to the G League, oh wait?!?!

We can still assign guys down there, yes. And we have two ways spots we can use for spots 16 and 17. But we can no longer offer to sign guys directly to the team and have them developed the way we want, because we don't have that control.

Yes, So whilst we may not have control in their development, At least that will still be an option as a placeholder for us wherein the prospects can still see playing time and be called up when/ if needed ( since we're always seemingly injured)! Overall, I'd still utilize the 16th and 17th spots for the high potential big risk prospects that we may want to take a chance on? And if they develop great! If not, no big loss.

[Fo-Real]

We just sign the standard 17 players and add the rest to our G-League team!

Oh wait...

Because we can no longer assign guys to the G League, oh wait?!?!

We can still assign guys down there, yes. And we have two ways spots we can use for spots 16 and 17. But we can no longer offer to sign guys directly to the team and have them developed the way we want, because we don't have that control.

The control you are talking about is to mandate the coach to play them regardless of deserving AND using them in the manner we would, mold them. Yes that takes away that control BUT if a dude can play, he will still show he can play. Might be better not to groom a guy into a round hole when he might break out in a square slot, that could actually keep guys from fully developing fully. Also not having daddy there as a security blanket and needing to play well to get floor time MIGHT actually make that player more hungry, play harder to succeed!

[Frank Lee]

G League is good in concept but overrated in perceived results. Just look at it as one big minor league pool of fringe roster players. It is a path to the NBA just as is China and Euro ball. It’s newer function will be for players jumping directly from high school, avoiding the BS ‘I’m a college student ‘ routine.


Sad news about Westy

[bigfoot]

Cam Johnson as a starter 12.5 pts, 6.2 rbds, 2.5 asts, 1.2 stls, stellar defense, and +12.9

[Saberestar]

Cam Johnson as a starter 12.5 pts, 6.2 rbds, 2.5 asts, 1.2 stls, stellar defense, and +12.9

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[WeekapaugGroove]

Cam Johnson as a starter 12.5 pts, 6.2 rbds, 2.5 asts, 1.2 stls, stellar defense, and +12.9

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He's been great. Very high BBIQ player, seems to do a lot of the little things that help a team win.

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[lilfishi22]

Cam to me is the offense version of Bridges. Mikal isn't an absolute lock down defender type of guy but an elite team defender that can give his individual assignment hell. Cam isn't an absolute scorer with the ball in his hands but could be a guy that gives you 20 a night in the scheme of an offense, like a JJ Reddick.

Both guys can also hold their own on the other side of the ball as well.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Cam to me is the offense version of Bridges. Mikal isn't an absolute lock down defender type of guy but an elite team defender that can give his individual assignment hell. Cam isn't an absolute scorer with the ball in his hands but could be a guy that gives you 20 a night in the scheme of an offense, like a JJ Reddick.

Both guys can also hold their own on the other side of the ball as well.

Yeah that's a good way to look at the two and they are both a nice fit next to Booker and Ayton. Cam is a true gravity guy out there because you just can't leave him to double. Now everyone knew he could shoot I've been impressed with his defense especially in Orlando he really competes.

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[Ghost of Kleine]

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[thamadkant]

The current chemistry is amazing right now.

I think the bubble environment and lack of social distractions have helped the young team focus and improve chemistry fast.

With that said, I still think Cameron Johnson is the right fit in the starting line up, next to Bridges, Booker, Rubio and Ayton.

I also really like the Saric, Payne, Carter bench rotation.


Now would Oubre suit that line up with Saric, Carter, Payne? Would he be happy helping the 2nd line up become even more effective?

If yes... good.


If no, then I think Oubre should be traded for another big man who can slot in with the starters at PF or play Center with the bench... preferrably a rim protector who can shoot 3s.... Markannen.

I still want to push for Markannen for Oubre. Likely also to save Suns a potential Max deal as Oubre expires.

[thamadkant]

Ayton's impact was clear as day in the game against Thunder.
The moment he went in, Thunder's offense collapsed while Suns offense improved also.

With that said, IF... a big IF.... If Suns make 8th spot and matchup with Lakers, I think it will be tough for Ayton to NOT be under attack most of the game with Laker's big men rotation.
Suns dont have a capable defensive big man next to Ayton who can contribute offensively.... Bayne is borderline and better as a backup center.

As much of a dream to make the playoffs... and upset Lakers, I think Suns need the off-season to fix that weakness and really climb the ladder out west.

[Ghost of Kleine]

The current chemistry is amazing right now.

I think the bubble environment and lack of social distractions have helped the young team focus and improve chemistry fast.

With that said, I still think Cameron Johnson is the right fit in the starting line up, next to Bridges, Booker, Rubio and Ayton.

I also really like the Saric, Payne, Carter bench rotation.


Now would Oubre suit that line up with Saric, Carter, Payne? Would he be happy helping the 2nd line up become even more effective?

If yes... good.


If no, then I think Oubre should be traded for another big man who can slot in with the starters at PF or play Center with the bench... preferrably a rim protector who can shoot 3s.... Markannen.

I still want to push for Markannen for Oubre. Likely also to save Suns a potential Max deal as Oubre expires.

Agree with this post in its entirety!
Also, For whatever the reason, I still find it incredibly frustrating that neither Oubre nor Baynes are out there playing and helping our team compete better! We've been pretty good and lucky for sure! But we need all of the depth that we can get to make the playoffs hopefully! Regardless of whatever the reason may be for them both not to play and help contribute on this very important stretch run of games, I want them out there actually contributing, Not simply operating as cheerleaders from the sidelines.

[lilfishi22]

The current chemistry is amazing right now.

I think the bubble environment and lack of social distractions have helped the young team focus and improve chemistry fast.

With that said, I still think Cameron Johnson is the right fit in the starting line up, next to Bridges, Booker, Rubio and Ayton.

I also really like the Saric, Payne, Carter bench rotation.


Now would Oubre suit that line up with Saric, Carter, Payne? Would he be happy helping the 2nd line up become even more effective?

If yes... good.


If no, then I think Oubre should be traded for another big man who can slot in with the starters at PF or play Center with the bench... preferrably a rim protector who can shoot 3s.... Markannen.

I still want to push for Markannen for Oubre. Likely also to save Suns a potential Max deal as Oubre expires.

I get the feeling that we can't bring Oubre off the bench. He's a starter level player, he's basically paid like one and he's expecting to start. So if that's the case then this awesome line up we've been starting with Bridges and Cam would have to end. I'm not the only one that's advocated for Oubre to come off the bench but it just doesn't seem like there's much desire from the coaching staff to do that. Maybe it's to preserve the relationship we have with Oubre but I really thought we would be a better team with him as a 6th man.

And as much as I want to see how this roster looks without Oubre in the lineup (off the bench), if it's not something we want to do or he wants to do, then I'm supportive of trading him for someone else. Maybe a 6th man type of player who can run the team and/or score when Ayton and Booker is resting.

[lilfishi22]

The current chemistry is amazing right now.

I think the bubble environment and lack of social distractions have helped the young team focus and improve chemistry fast.

With that said, I still think Cameron Johnson is the right fit in the starting line up, next to Bridges, Booker, Rubio and Ayton.

I also really like the Saric, Payne, Carter bench rotation.


Now would Oubre suit that line up with Saric, Carter, Payne? Would he be happy helping the 2nd line up become even more effective?

If yes... good.


If no, then I think Oubre should be traded for another big man who can slot in with the starters at PF or play Center with the bench... preferrably a rim protector who can shoot 3s.... Markannen.

I still want to push for Markannen for Oubre. Likely also to save Suns a potential Max deal as Oubre expires.

Agree with this post in its entirety!
Also, For whatever the reason, I still find it incredibly frustrating that neither Oubre nor Baynes are out there playing and helping our team compete better! We've been pretty good and lucky for sure! But we need all of the depth that we can get to make the playoffs hopefully! Regardless of whatever the reason may be for them both not to play and help contribute on this very important stretch run of games, I want them out there actually contributing, Not simply operating as cheerleaders from the sidelines.

Yeah I'm sure Baynes could replace Frank's production and play better defense. I'm not sure if Oubre wants to play

[bigfoot]

Cam to me is the offense version of Bridges. Mikal isn't an absolute lock down defender type of guy but an elite team defender that can give his individual assignment hell. Cam isn't an absolute scorer with the ball in his hands but could be a guy that gives you 20 a night in the scheme of an offense, like a JJ Reddick.

Both guys can also hold their own on the other side of the ball as well.

Yeah that's a good way to look at the two and they are both a nice fit next to Booker and Ayton. Cam is a true gravity guy out there because you just can't leave him to double. Now everyone knew he could shoot I've been impressed with his defense especially in Orlando he really competes.

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[Ghost of Kleine]

The current chemistry is amazing right now.

I think the bubble environment and lack of social distractions have helped the young team focus and improve chemistry fast.

With that said, I still think Cameron Johnson is the right fit in the starting line up, next to Bridges, Booker, Rubio and Ayton.

I also really like the Saric, Payne, Carter bench rotation.


Now would Oubre suit that line up with Saric, Carter, Payne? Would he be happy helping the 2nd line up become even more effective?

If yes... good.


If no, then I think Oubre should be traded for another big man who can slot in with the starters at PF or play Center with the bench... preferrably a rim protector who can shoot 3s.... Markannen.

I still want to push for Markannen for Oubre. Likely also to save Suns a potential Max deal as Oubre expires.

Agree with this post in its entirety!
Also, For whatever the reason, I still find it incredibly frustrating that neither Oubre nor Baynes are out there playing and helping our team compete better! We've been pretty good and lucky for sure! But we need all of the depth that we can get to make the playoffs hopefully! Regardless of whatever the reason may be for them both not to play and help contribute on this very important stretch run of games, I want them out there actually contributing, Not simply operating as cheerleaders from the sidelines.

Yeah I'm sure Baynes could replace Frank's production and play better defense. I'm not sure if Oubre wants to play

Yeah, Frank has just been so disappointing. And Baynes constant injuries are troubling as we could really use him right now for frontcourt depth. Not to beat a dead horse, But all those close losses really put us in a difficult situation.

As for Oubre, I know it's an unpopular opinion around here, But I think that he's choosing not to play and it's actually a mutually agreed upon decision, As they likely have trade non disclosed trade plans for him as a result of his anticipated immenent free agency and discussed anticipated market value. Again, I know that it's unpopular to say, But to me at least, it seems eerily similar to when Warren didn't come back from his injury to play more prior to being traded. Not at all identical, but nobody really anticipated that trade, And then it came out of nowhere. And with Oubre, IF he was really committed to being here, And the teams' success over his potential free agency value, Then wouldn't he actually be wanting to be out there helping his team compete? Again, I do hope that I'm wrong! I really do, But I get this really foreboding feeling that Oubre, his new agent, And the suns front office have already sat down to discuss what he expects to get in order to resign, As well as his anticipated market value in 2021 ( resulting from his agents inquiries to other potential bidders) and they come to the conclusion that he'll garner offers outside of their reasonable asking price. Thusly, They've agreed to sit him as to not tank his potential trade value further prior to the draft and free agency. And also this decision has pushed them to promote Bridges and Cam much more aggressively than originally planned.

I also think that Jones has a specific intent to utilize Oubre on draft night, in a deal to potentially move up in the draft, With specific targets in mind, Whilst creating more cap space for free agency as well. 10 days to see how it plays out.

[Frank Lee]

The sooner I get back to being the only Frank around here the better.

I don’t think we’ll have any trouble finding minutes for Oubre Johnson bridges etc.… They’ll buy in… Monty will see to that. Keep your ball players. Draft a good Baller, maybe add a reasonable FA big... but no need to shoot for the moon and disrupt the chemistry we have developed.

We are finally in a good place.

[suns12345]

The sooner I get back to being the only Frank around here the better.

I don’t think we’ll have any trouble finding minutes for Oubre Johnson bridges etc.… They’ll buy in… Monty will see to that. Keep your ball players. Draft a good Baller, maybe add a reasonable FA big... but no need to shoot for the moon and disrupt the chemistry we have developed.

We are finally in a good place.

Careful what you wish for... they might start bringing you off the bench at the 5 and tell frank K to join the realgm family