Fantasy Basketball Discussion thread

MrMiyagi · Post #421 » by **MrMiyagi** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:45 am

gaspar wrote:Let me know, if anyone wants to trade down to 7th in the Premier League

I'll trade you 7th in China for 7th in Premier

Who am I kidding, I doubt I'm fit for China, let alone Premier. :lol:

Maystack · Post #422 » by **Maystack** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:28 am

All of the players I was thinking of targeting at 11 are apparently way worse than I thought. The main guy I immediately thought of is in the 30s in most mock drafts :lol:

Post #423 » by **TASTIC** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:22 pm

Some of you know I write for The Fantasy Fix every so often - here's a MASSIVE piece I did a few weeks back.

Was a mock draft with some industry writers from other fantasy sites. Put a fair bit of effort into this one!

http://thefantasyfix.com/fantasy-basketball/2015-16-fantasy-basketball-dynasty-mock-draft-review-and-expert-insight/

dmastro32 · Post #424 » by **dmastro32** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:12 pm

This could be fun 1st year playing= pick 12! Must be a very smart pick

Superhuman · Post #425 » by **Superhuman** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:25 pm

Maystack wrote:All of the players I was thinking of targeting at 11 are apparently way worse than I thought. The main guy I immediately thought of is in the 30s in most mock drafts

I have 11th pick as well. A lot of the mock drafts and rankings out there that I've seen are completely ridiculous and you should take most of them with a grain of salt. Just choose the best player available who you think contributes in multiple categories and you should be good. :wink:

So many stupid rankings have Anthony Davis as the 1st pick. Overrated much? He's 11th pick at best.

Post #426 » by **TASTIC** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:01 pm

Maystack wrote:All of the players I was thinking of targeting at 11 are apparently way worse than I thought. The main guy I immediately thought of is in the 30s in most mock drafts

Was it Wiggins? Love?

I think he's WAY better in reality than fantasy. Doesn't have elite 3PT, STL or AST - basically the three stats you want from a fantasy SG. He's a very good scorer but that FG% isn't too flash. We'll see - I think he's more DeRozan than Lebron/Paul George as some peeps have unfairly compared him to.

plonden · Post #427 » by **plonden** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:11 pm

Superhuman wrote:So many stupid rankings have Anthony Davis as the 1st pick. Overrated much? He's 11th pick at best.

Is this a joke? Anthony Davis is the consensus number one pick in almost any format and is at worst a top 3 selection in any format: 24.4 points, 10.2 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 1.5 steals, and 2.9 blocks on .535 FG% and .805 FT%. Those are monstrous numbers!

plonden · Post #428 » by **plonden** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:13 pm

TASTIC wrote:Was it Wiggins? Love?

I think he's WAY better in reality than fantasy. Doesn't have elite 3PT, STL or AST - basically the three stats you want from a fantasy SG. He's a very good scorer but that FG% isn't too flash. We'll see - I think he's more DeRozan than Lebron/Paul George as some peeps have unfairly compared him to.

Interesting. Do you mean this season only or long term?

Post #429 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:30 pm

TASTIC wrote:Some of you know I write for The Fantasy Fix every so often - here's a MASSIVE piece I did a few weeks back.

Was a mock draft with some industry writers from other fantasy sites. Put a fair bit of effort into this one!

http://thefantasyfix.com/fantasy-basketball/2015-16-fantasy-basketball-dynasty-mock-draft-review-and-expert-insight/

I read that a while back but it's tough to compare our draft to a dynasty draft. LeBron would NEVER drop to 9th in a regular draft.

I do think there are more than eight players of top tier quality though if all injured players return to pre-injury form.

MrMiyagi · Post #430 » by **MrMiyagi** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:32 pm

I did a mock on Yahoo and got Lebron at 6th. Too bad I'm drafting 7th.

Maystack · Post #431 » by **Maystack** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:36 pm

TASTIC wrote:
Maystack wrote:All of the players I was thinking of targeting at 11 are apparently way worse than I thought. The main guy I immediately thought of is in the 30s in most mock drafts

Was it Wiggins? Love?

I think he's WAY better in reality than fantasy. Doesn't have elite 3PT, STL or AST - basically the three stats you want from a fantasy SG. He's a very good scorer but that FG% isn't too flash. We'll see - I think he's more DeRozan than Lebron/Paul George as some peeps have unfairly compared him to.

Nah, I hadn't even considered Wiggins within the first couple of rounds until I read that article you posted. I think eventually in a season or two, Wiggins will be up there in first round potential. I can see his 3PT going up a lot this year.

Looking back at last year's draft, I'm definitely overrating the player I was thinking of. I don't even know why I thought he had first round value :lol:

Superhuman · Post #432 » by **Superhuman** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:50 pm

plonden wrote:
Superhuman wrote:So many stupid rankings have Anthony Davis as the 1st pick. Overrated much? He's 11th pick at best.

Is this a joke? Anthony Davis is the consensus number one pick in almost any format and is at worst a top 3 selection in any format: 24.4 points, 10.2 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 1.5 steals, and 2.9 blocks on .535 FG% and .805 FT%. Those are monstrous numbers!

Meh, he's okay. If I had the 1st-10th pick I'd look elsewhere but that's just my opinion.

Post #433 » by **TASTIC** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:07 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
TASTIC wrote:Some of you know I write for The Fantasy Fix every so often - here's a MASSIVE piece I did a few weeks back.

Was a mock draft with some industry writers from other fantasy sites. Put a fair bit of effort into this one!

http://thefantasyfix.com/fantasy-basketball/2015-16-fantasy-basketball-dynasty-mock-draft-review-and-expert-insight/

I read that a while back but it's tough to compare our draft to a dynasty draft. LeBron would NEVER drop to 9th in a regular draft.

I do think there are more than eight players of top tier quality though if all injured players return to pre-injury form.

Yeah this one's more accurate for this regular draft - my mate Zack wrote this, pretty good breadkdown too.

http://thefantasyfix.com/fantasy-basketball/2015-16-fantasy-basketball-industry-mock-draft-review-and-expert-insight/

Post #434 » by **TASTIC** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:26 pm

plonden wrote:
TASTIC wrote:Was it Wiggins? Love?

I think he's WAY better in reality than fantasy. Doesn't have elite 3PT, STL or AST - basically the three stats you want from a fantasy SG. He's a very good scorer but that FG% isn't too flash. We'll see - I think he's more DeRozan than Lebron/Paul George as some peeps have unfairly compared him to.

Interesting. Do you mean this season only or long term?

I'm not going near Wiggins in the top 50 this year - Saunders' teams aren't traditionally 3pt heavy and Wiggins basically abandoned the 3pt shot towards the end of the season - when he was on a real tear.

Last 16 GP:
21.9pts
5.4reb
3.0asst
0.9stl
0.7blk
0.2 3pt (at just .188, only 3-16 in those 16 games)
3.1t/o (ouch)
44.6% FG (also ouch, at nearly 16 a game is a killer)
80.5% FT (at nearly 10 a game, very impressive)

See that looks a LOT like DeRozan. He doesn't have the other counting stats that other elite fantasy guys do - yet. The steals will likely come but I'm not sure that 3pt shot ever will.

Even with those NICE stats, he was only the 47th best guy in Yahoo for that stretch....He reminds me of Maggette from a pure stats standpoint. There's a place for that for sure, just not in the first 3-4 rounds for me personally. LaVine was 45th in the same span but he gets zero hype for some reason, other than his dunks.

I had a good rant on Twitter about this and he's definitely split a few 'experts' in fantasy. I found a stat which was interesting - ONLY guy to ever play 2950min (36.2mpg) in a season & FAIL to average ANY of: 17pts/5reb/2.5ast/1x 3pt a game.

Granted, he's so young and he's DEFINITELY going to improve a lot, but I still think he'll be better in reality than fantasy.

MrMiyagi · Post #435 » by **MrMiyagi** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:14 pm

Superhuman wrote:
plonden wrote:
Superhuman wrote:So many stupid rankings have Anthony Davis as the 1st pick. Overrated much? He's 11th pick at best.

Is this a joke? Anthony Davis is the consensus number one pick in almost any format and is at worst a top 3 selection in any format: 24.4 points, 10.2 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 1.5 steals, and 2.9 blocks on .535 FG% and .805 FT%. Those are monstrous numbers!

Meh, he's okay. If I had the 1st-10th pick I'd look elsewhere but that's just my opinion.

I respect your commitment

b-ball forever · Post #436 » by **b-ball forever** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:27 pm

Superhuman wrote:
plonden wrote:
Superhuman wrote:So many stupid rankings have Anthony Davis as the 1st pick. Overrated much? He's 11th pick at best.

Is this a joke? Anthony Davis is the consensus number one pick in almost any format and is at worst a top 3 selection in any format: 24.4 points, 10.2 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 1.5 steals, and 2.9 blocks on .535 FG% and .805 FT%. Those are monstrous numbers!

Meh, he's okay. If I had the 1st-10th pick I'd look elsewhere but that's just my opinion.

You're stretching a bit, but I like where you're coming from.

Davis not really worth those 1-7 picks. After that, he's good to go IMO...

plonden · Post #437 » by **plonden** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:39 pm

Wow, I'm pretty surprised. I think you guys are drastically underrating two things about AD's game. First, look at his impact in steals and blocks. You can find guys that put up around 20 and 10. A guy like Zach Randolph comes to mind. But it's rare to have someone who also has such positive contributions in steals and blocks. Second, look at his percentages. He is a net positive in both field goal percentage and free throw percentage. His free throw percentage is especially impressive from a PF/C. And, most importantly, he shoots lots of attempts, which means he anchors your team's percentages as well. He basically helps everywhere except from three. And he's only 22 years old. He should improve upon these numbers for the next three or four seasons!

Post #438 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:56 pm

plonden wrote:Wow, I'm pretty surprised. I think you guys are drastically underrating two things about AD's game. First, look at his impact in steals and blocks. You can find guys that put up around 20 and 10. A guy like Zach Randolph comes to mind. But it's rare to have someone who also has such positive contributions in steals and blocks. Second, look at his percentages. He is a net positive in both field goal percentage and free throw percentage. His free throw percentage is especially impressive from a PF/C. And, most importantly, he shoots lots of attempts, which means he anchors your team's percentages as well. He basically helps everywhere except from three. And he's only 22 years old. He should improve upon these numbers for the next three or four seasons!

I thought he would be consensus #1. But not top 7 or 10?

Post #439 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:01 pm

Marcus Mariota with four td passes in the first half of his first game in the NFL.

Superhuman · Post #440 » by **Superhuman** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:18 pm

b-ball forever wrote:
Superhuman wrote:
plonden wrote:Is this a joke? Anthony Davis is the consensus number one pick in almost any format and is at worst a top 3 selection in any format: 24.4 points, 10.2 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 1.5 steals, and 2.9 blocks on .535 FG% and .805 FT%. Those are monstrous numbers!

Meh, he's okay. If I had the 1st-10th pick I'd look elsewhere but that's just my opinion.

You're stretching a bit, but I like where you're coming from.

Davis not really worth those 1-7 picks. After that, he's good to go IMO...