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Post#421 » by kennydorglas » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:09 pm

An expanded G-League makes sense to me.
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Post#422 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:24 pm

Ulquiorra wrote:can we start with the lottery soon so ppl can see their positions and make a plan?

I second this. It would be cool to know where we fall in the draft order. I get that we dont want people making picks yet but we could just not allow that until a specified date.

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Post#423 » by bwgood77 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:54 pm

MathiasPW wrote:Well, if I send extra 2 invites to 10th and 11th places in CBA, it pretty much means there wont be enough players to fill that league, making the players who dropped from D-League leagueless.

We either find more players to create a CBA or we expand the G-League and/or restrict players to being Suns fans or smt of sorts.

(Which is exactly what BW said weeks ago...despite now it is becoming necessary)


batsmasher mentioned 6 returnees. I assume that might include BringinDaRuckus? who hasn't posted, but not sure. I didn't have him on my list since I haven't seen him post but had the following people interested (who are not in premier):

These are in:

Remaining G league members:

wheezy
Mathias
wordsenuff
edurham88
Miami4Ever

CBA participants to move up:

darealjuice - 1st CBA
Team Tser - Terovibe - 2nd CBA
Team Dinardo - lindan2002 - 3rd CBA
Team Alves - kennydorglas - 4th CBA

Others who could either be added to G league stay in CBA:

dantley4prez - finished 10th CBA
Jarlaxle0204 - finished 11th CBA
theSUNalsoRISES (Big City Ballers) - finished 12th CBA
Golanator
dmastro32
Phystic - finished 12th in D
KD354MVPBOI - finished 13th in D


That's a total of 16, and then there is also BringindaRuckus who would be 17 if he is still on the list.

Do you know who the 6th returning member is?

16 isn't bad. That's what we go with in Dynasty. You just have to take more risks. Unless you decrease # of roster spots, but not sure if that is possible.

Of course it wouldn't make more sense that when you move up to Premier, it's to an easier league, but it's better than leaving someone out.
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Post#424 » by bwgood77 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:56 pm

Kerrsed wrote:Yeah, and i dont really want to touch the Premier League. Its 13 players, always has been. Its the Original League. To change it now to help out another league isnt the smartest thing for us. We strive for perfection, and taking on another "Normie" or two that didnt EARN the chance to participate in our great league would make us no better than the G-League. I also hate that when one of my main players goes down, it pretty much means that you are screwed, as if you look to make up that production getting a new player, all your looking at is 15 minutes-a-game roleplayers and others who have no business being on a fantasy team. Adding one or two more teams to the league would kill us.

So the Premier league is set as it is.


I could have sworn it used to be 12 quite a while back and then went up to 14, and there were arguments about whether or not it should be 12 or 14 and we finally settled in the middle at 13 2-3 years ago.
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Post#425 » by Kerrsed » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:04 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:Yeah, and i dont really want to touch the Premier League. Its 13 players, always has been. Its the Original League. To change it now to help out another league isnt the smartest thing for us. We strive for perfection, and taking on another "Normie" or two that didnt EARN the chance to participate in our great league would make us no better than the G-League. I also hate that when one of my main players goes down, it pretty much means that you are screwed, as if you look to make up that production getting a new player, all your looking at is 15 minutes-a-game roleplayers and others who have no business being on a fantasy team. Adding one or two more teams to the league would kill us.

So the Premier league is set as it is.


I could have sworn it used to be 12 quite a while back and then went up to 14, and there were arguments about whether or not it should be 12 or 14 and we finally settled in the middle at 13 2-3 years ago.


Ok, it was 14 back in 2013 and was deemed too many, and from there it went to 13. You got me, lol.

I do like the idea of the G-League having more players ala The Dynasty League, but i feel like in Dynasty you can get away with having more players due to the fact that you are taking on guys that might not be good in a year or two (Rookies) because you think that they will develop into a good player down the line, where in normal leagues you wouldnt be caught dead with those players on your roster. So i think that decreasing the number of players on the team (By one if its 15 or two by 16) would be the way of making sure that you dont get stuck in a situation where everyone has a better shot with a team full of real players and not being stuck adding a Archie Goodwin or Austin Rivers.
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Post#426 » by Kerrsed » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:20 pm

OK, i need to find a reliable and trust-worthy poster to do our draft order for us, since no one trusts me to do it (Even though ive never gave anyone reason to not trust me, i mean you really cant cheat when the results are sent directly to the emails. Hell, i actually finally got the #1 spot the year that we have the GM's from other leagues do each others).
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Post#427 » by MathiasPW » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:02 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
MathiasPW wrote:Well, if I send extra 2 invites to 10th and 11th places in CBA, it pretty much means there wont be enough players to fill that league, making the players who dropped from D-League leagueless.

We either find more players to create a CBA or we expand the G-League and/or restrict players to being Suns fans or smt of sorts.

(Which is exactly what BW said weeks ago...despite now it is becoming necessary)


batsmasher mentioned 6 returnees. I assume that might include BringinDaRuckus? who hasn't posted, but not sure. I didn't have him on my list since I haven't seen him post but had the following people interested (who are not in premier):

These are in:

Remaining G league members:

wheezy
Mathias
wordsenuff
edurham88
Miami4Ever

CBA participants to move up:

darealjuice - 1st CBA
Team Tser - Terovibe - 2nd CBA
Team Dinardo - lindan2002 - 3rd CBA
Team Alves - kennydorglas - 4th CBA

Others who could either be added to G league stay in CBA:

dantley4prez - finished 10th CBA
Jarlaxle0204 - finished 11th CBA
theSUNalsoRISES (Big City Ballers) - finished 12th CBA
Golanator
dmastro32
Phystic - finished 12th in D
KD354MVPBOI - finished 13th in D


That's a total of 16, and then there is also BringindaRuckus who would be 17 if he is still on the list.

Do you know who the 6th returning member is?

16 isn't bad. That's what we go with in Dynasty. You just have to take more risks. Unless you decrease # of roster spots, but not sure if that is possible.

Of course it wouldn't make more sense that when you move up to Premier, it's to an easier league, but it's better than leaving someone out.
BringingDaRuckus has autorenewed and is in the league already. So we have 17 confirmed players, which is just too much.

I can roll with a 16 player league reducing one player per team, as Kerrsed suggested, since at Dynasty at least one player spot on each team (at least) was used for future projects on every team, even the top 2 (Miyagi and myself).

Even so, we would still have to move one player up (Kerrsed hates this) or kick one player out.

I'll give it 3 days for someone to stand up and quit, otherwise I'll just come up with some criteria to kick someone out.
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Post#428 » by edurham88 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:59 pm

If we decide that we have too many teams, but not enough for a third league, then I can sit out of the G-League this year. I am still in Dynasty and I am in a few other leagues. To be honest, I felt a little stretched thin last year with the number of leagues I played in (at least that's how I choose to explain my poor D-League showing). So I have no problem giving up my spot.

If I am needed I will play, but I don't mind sitting out.
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Post#429 » by b-ball forever » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:14 pm

In the Premier League we actually played with 16 teams in 2006-2007, 15 teams in 2007-2008, 16 teams in 2008-2009, 14 teams in 2012-2013, and 14 teams in 2013-2014, so it's been more than 13 teams plenty of times.

We once cut to 12 teams in 2011-2012, and everybody hated it except for Kerrsed :lol:
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Post#430 » by MathiasPW » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:19 pm

edurham88 wrote:If we decide that we have too many teams, but not enough for a third league, then I can sit out of the G-League this year. I am still in Dynasty and I am in a few other leagues. To be honest, I felt a little stretched thin last year with the number of leagues I played in (at least that's how I choose to explain my poor D-League showing). So I have no problem giving up my spot.

If I am needed I will play, but I don't mind sitting out.
Thank you, edurham88, for making this easy for me. Truly appreciated.

We are settled then. Will send invites to all other 6 participants not yet in the league. Will give it til the end of the week for them to accept it, otherwise we'll trim the number of players a bit more.
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Post#431 » by Kobe>Jordan>God » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:07 am

b-ball forever wrote:In the Premier League we actually played with 16 teams in 2006-2007, 15 teams in 2007-2008, 16 teams in 2008-2009, 14 teams in 2012-2013, and 14 teams in 2013-2014, so it's been more than 13 teams plenty of times.

We once cut to 12 teams in 2011-2012, and everybody hated it except for Kerrsed :lol:


'08 was a good year - my only league win to date! Even with 16 manager and only 10 players per team, somehow I ended up with a stacked roster of:

Gilbert Arenas
Michael Beasley
Mike Bibby
Kobe Bryant
Kevin Durant
Eric Gordon
Nene Hilario
Joe Johnson
Brad Miller
Jermaine O'Neal
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Post#432 » by batsmasher » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:37 am

I'm all for a 14/16 split between Prem and G-League. 16 teams will weed out the good managers who did their research and deserve to move up. 14 in the prem is a barely noticeable change.

If we do split the 30 between two leagues we really should allow a minimum of month to draft. So- end of the week at the latest.
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Post#433 » by MathiasPW » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:39 am

batsmasher wrote:I'm all for a 14/16 split between Prem and G-League. 16 teams will weed out the good managers who did their research and deserve to move up. 14 in the prem is a barely noticeable change.


How about we create the League threads and start them with a voting on the number of teams for Premier and number of players per team in the G-League?
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Post#434 » by batsmasher » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:46 am

Moving down:
wheezy

Returning:
Mathias
Calvin Klein (?)
wordsenuff
edurham88
M4E
BDR (?)

Moving up:
DRJ
Terovibe
lindan
kenny

That's the current state of the G-League I believe.
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Post#435 » by bwgood77 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:48 am

b-ball forever wrote:In the Premier League we actually played with 16 teams in 2006-2007, 15 teams in 2007-2008, 16 teams in 2008-2009, 14 teams in 2012-2013, and 14 teams in 2013-2014, so it's been more than 13 teams plenty of times.

We once cut to 12 teams in 2011-2012, and everybody hated it except for Kerrsed :lol:


I don't think I started playing until 2013-14 and that was a D league year, but I remember reading arguments about 12 vs 14...wanting to go down to 12, and I had remembered proposing a solution in the middle at 13 and thought that had been the first year. So I think the first time it got to 13 was the first year I was in it in 14-15. I've always preferred bigger leagues in fantasy to make the more strategic but I don't really care that much, though I hate people having to decide not to play.
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Post#436 » by bwgood77 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:56 am

batsmasher wrote:Moving down:
wheezy

Returning:
Mathias
Calvin Klein (?)
wordsenuff
edurham88
M4E
BDR (?)

Moving up:
DRJ
Terovibe
lindan
kenny

That's the current state of the G-League I believe.


Calvin Klein is out. We probably need a good master list of who all the players in all the leagues. I had the 16 listed in the post Mathias quoted in post 427, but that was missing BDR who Mathias said is in, which put it to 17, before edurham volunteered to sit out if needed.
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Post#437 » by MathiasPW » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:08 am

batsmasher wrote:Moving down:
wheezy

Returning:
Mathias
Calvin Klein (?)
wordsenuff
edurham88
M4E
BDR (?)

Moving up:
DRJ
Terovibe
lindan
kenny

That's the current state of the G-League I believe.


Now you are making a mess. Here is how it looks now:

RETURNING (already rejoined):
1. Mathias - BrandNew Knight
2. wordsenuff - Wordsenuff´s Team
3. BringingdaRuckus - BringinDaRuckus
4. Miami4Ever - KATastrophe
Calvin Klein - CK Calgary Strip (TO BE DELETED!)
edurham88 - Keep Calm & Curry On (TO BE DELETED!)

MOVING UP (already joined)
5. kennydorglas - Kenny´s Team
6. darealjuice - Da Real Juice
7. dantley4prez - dantley can´t miss 2
8. Terovibe - Terovibe
9. lindan2002 - Lindan's Legit Team
10. Phystic - Phystic
11. Jarlaxle0204 - Jarlaxle 0204
12. TheSUNalsoRISES - TheSunAlsoRises.
13. dmastro32 - Dmastro32

MOVING DOWN (already joined):
14. wheezy - Washington Generals

MOVING UP (yet to join)
15. KD354MVPBOI (unrelegated)
16. Golanator



PM´s with the link to join have been sent to all those who have not joined yet. I expect you all to be in the league by the end of Friday, the 15th, or your spot will be made available for others.
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Post#438 » by batsmasher » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:18 am

MathiasPW wrote:
MOVING UP (yet to join)
11. Phystic (unrelegated)
12. KD354MVPBOI (unrelegated)
13. Jarlaxle0204
14. TheSUNalsoRISES
15. Golanator
16. dmastro32

bw was spitballing a proposition for the G-League. The list I posted is of the people that have a right to play in the league based on their performance last year. Whether or not these 6 are included hasn't been decided for certain.

And please don't tell me I'm making a mess of something I ran last season. I didn't hand out the invites to those 6 for a reason. For all we know there might be a few new users who post in the coming days which make a CBA possible.

wheezy is already in the league. You're waiting on Terovibe to accept an invite (which he may have accepted since he's read my PM now). Then there are the 6 above that we have to figure out.
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Post#439 » by 8on » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:10 am

batsmasher wrote:
MathiasPW wrote:
MOVING UP (yet to join)
11. Phystic (unrelegated)
12. KD354MVPBOI (unrelegated)
13. Jarlaxle0204
14. TheSUNalsoRISES
15. Golanator
16. dmastro32

bw was spitballing a proposition for the G-League. The list I posted is of the people that have a right to play in the league based on their performance last year. Whether or not these 6 are included hasn't been decided for certain.

And please don't tell me I'm making a mess of something I ran last season. I didn't hand out the invites to those 6 for a reason. For all we know there might be a few new users who post in the coming days which make a CBA possible.

wheezy is already in the league. You're waiting on Terovibe to accept an invite (which he may have accepted since he's read my PM now). Then there are the 6 above that we have to figure out.


I'll gladly play in the CBA if there are enough users for it. Although I'm not in that group of six, I finished 10th in the CBA, so I don't deserve the G-League unless the CBA is abolished.

Let me know my final status when it's sorted out.
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Post#440 » by MathiasPW » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:43 am

batsmasher wrote:
MathiasPW wrote:
MOVING UP (yet to join)
11. Phystic (unrelegated)
12. KD354MVPBOI (unrelegated)
13. Jarlaxle0204
14. TheSUNalsoRISES
15. Golanator
16. dmastro32

bw was spitballing a proposition for the G-League. The list I posted is of the people that have a right to play in the league based on their performance last year. Whether or not these 6 are included hasn't been decided for certain.

And please don't tell me I'm making a mess of something I ran last season. I didn't hand out the invites to those 6 for a reason. For all we know there might be a few new users who post in the coming days which make a CBA possible.

wheezy is already in the league. You're waiting on Terovibe to accept an invite (which he may have accepted since he's read my PM now). Then there are the 6 above that we have to figure out.


Sorry if I offended with the mess.

I've moved forward assuming chances of having a CBA are slim to none, and some solution is better than none. I have sent invites to all those listed players, and if changes need to be made, I'll handle them when the time comes.

About wheezy, I assume he is Washington Generals, which I thought was lindan2002. Can you confirm please?
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