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Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST

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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#421 » by grumpysaddle » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:42 am

Also, really really disappointed in Ulis this season considering how much I loved watching him play the last 15 games last season.
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#422 » by ATTL » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:49 am

ginobiliflops wrote:Missing on Len really set us back


Sucking in that draft was the worst thing that could have happened.
If we were late lotto we probably would have taken a closer look at Giannis or gobert
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#423 » by Son of Ra » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:25 am

You know you hate Mike James when you're wishing it was Brandon Knight playing instead of him...
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#424 » by PhxLax » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:27 am

bwoolf2 wrote:
PhxLax wrote:Couple of my thoughts:

1. Keep Monroe. He's good.
2. Trade Chandler/Len. Monroe/Sauce is where it's at.
3. Chriss & Bender are awful draft picks. Truth hurts. Move on.
4. Ulis is not starting-caliber PG. He's a solid cast member.
5. Speaking of PG, Mike James prob worst PG I've ever seen.
6. Not a fan of Booker bringing ball up like Harden. Need a PG.
7. Sorry to say it, but next season u best PG is prob B. Knight!

You cant possible have point 3 in there when they are younger and knowing bigs take longer to develop and have actually both had a few good games this year and then make point 4 about Ulis being a solid cast member.


Ulis stinks too. "Solid cast member" isn't a compliment on my end. Was supposed to be a really good starting PG, but my thought after a month of this season is he's "solid cast member" off the bench at best. And Chriss/Bender -- just don't like what I see. If u wanna play the "both had few good games" argument -- we can go down that route w/ a myriad of players who shown "flashes" but never amounted to anything. I'll keep this list to just bigs only:

Tyrus Thomas
Darko Milicic
Eddie Griffin
Stomile Swift
Nikoloz Tskitishvili
Jonathan Bender
Fran Vasquez
Kosta Koufos
on and on and on......

Sadly, Bender reminds me of Darko. And Chriss, he just reminds me of an immature pouting-face kid on the blacktop playing 2-on-2 ball.
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#425 » by grumpysaddle » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:34 am

Reading the game thread on the general board was bad. Suns are the joke of the league there (which is weird cause they have 5 wins which is more than Atlanta, Dallas, Chicago, and Sacramento). Not sure why the general board hates the Suns so much.

This was a really bad game to have broadcast nationally. Hopefully this lights a fire under the team's ass, and the FO's ass to make some much needed changes.

Seriously, Len and James, cut. Bring in a competent level-headed vet PG to work with the young guys. Keep Monroe and play him good minutes (give him a deal in off-season if it works out). There are things that can be done to salvage the franchise, even if they don't lead to wins this season, at least make it competitive losses.
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#426 » by Son of Ra » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:40 am

The worst part of this is, loosely quoting Bwgood, we're not even gonna get a top pick at the end of this with so many other teams being even worse than us.
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#427 » by batsmasher » Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:44 am

Hahahaahaha a 90 point first half. righto....

That Watson dead coach bounce is going to go down in history as one of the best.
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#428 » by Saberestar » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:58 am

What a pathetic game to watch as a fan of our beloved Suns. Harden was toying with us all game long, he could have get 80 points if he wanted to.

We were so bad defensively...I can't even begin with. Booker defending Harden??! Come on.... He tried hard, but he can't even stay in front of him. He needs to stop other inferior players before trying to slow down someone like Harden, that doesn't help him because he gets embarrassed.

And what about the rest of the team? We could not defend a chair.

People can say whatever they want about Ryan Anderson, that he is overrated, overpaid, and bla bla bla...but the guy creates SO MUCH SPACE that he is an amazing weapon on the court. I always have like him, this type of players are not easy to find. He is a deadly shooter.

And what about our great couple of PFs? Chriss and Bender. Bender and Chriss. OMG, what a game to forget.

Monroe played good enough to show that he is waaaaaaaaay better offensively than Len and Chandler. It's not even close. Against other lesser teams he can be a great option to win games. Yeah, to try to win games that is more fun to watch that the **** from last night.
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#429 » by Saberestar » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:18 am

sunsbum wrote:Len gets stuffed by Yao Mings 15 y/o cousin. You're bad.

NICE. :lol:
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#430 » by Saberestar » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:23 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Is it just me or does Len record the most low-key and unproductive double digit rebound performances in the league? It's only when I look at the box score do I see that he's got 13 rebounds.

That's why stats don't say the true story.
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#431 » by thamadkant » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:02 am

Mike James is playing out of his league.... he looks so amateurish, he lacks NBA level talent and skills.


Len is a hack offensively.... for people doubting a back to the basket player would not do well in the Suns lineup... Monroe has proven otherwise... so refreshing to see someone with elite post moves and offense, really helps make the defense commit inside.
Okafor is younger so I would prefer him... maybe in the off season, nothing against Monroe, but he could be doing this for a playoff team.... Okafor can atleast grow with the timeline and be part of the future.


Harden.... amazing, has shown the gap between him and Booker.... Booker should watch this an learn...
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#432 » by thamadkant » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:05 am

KLEON wrote:It ridiculous how the NBA protects Harden.I'm shocked no one tries to seriously hurt him. He gets every single call and he's not even the best player in the league



why would other players want to hurt Harden?

and he is top 2 offensive players in the league and top 10 overall...

Curry is a better 3pt shooter... but Harden has more moves.
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#433 » by thamadkant » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:07 am

ginobiliflops wrote:James is the worst player I've ever seen in the NBA



hate how every game, he slows the ball down.. tells his team mates to move while he over dribbles at top... then goes ISO only to put up a really bad shot or get blocked.... hack.
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#434 » by garrick » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:17 am

ginobiliflops wrote:Missing on Len really set us back

Well we could have drafted Anthony Bennett had he fell to us. :lol:
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#435 » by m1chal » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:19 am

I didn't watch the game and judging from the boxscore it wasn't pretty so maybe lucky me. But I wanted to ask specifically about Monroe - he obviously had a good game offensively, especially coming off an injury, but what about his defense, was it as bad as advertised? I've always liked him, he might be a nice change compared to our current offensively unable centers.
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#436 » by Revived » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:21 am

ginobiliflops wrote:Im seriously on the fire McD train if we dont get an established point guard in here soon. This is a trainwreck.

I don’t understand how Triano hasn’t gone off on him with this sorry ass group of PGs on this roster.

Trading Bledsoe without getting a Pg in return was moronic.

Acquire McConnell, Mudiay, Dinwiddle or Rozier somehow or the other.
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#437 » by garrick » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:58 am

grumpysaddle wrote:Also, really really disappointed in Ulis this season considering how much I loved watching him play the last 15 games last season.

He's just not a starter though due to his small size and some situations like today he gets dwarfed by the Harden's CP3's of the league, both our PGs are not starting material.
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Post#438 » by Saberestar » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:13 pm

1UPZ wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:James is the worst player I've ever seen in the NBA



hate how every game, he slows the ball down.. tells his team mates to move while he over dribbles at top... then goes ISO only to put up a really bad shot or get blocked.... hack.

I know that people loves to hate the best players in the word...but sometimes is fair to say that they are great players. It is what it is.

Harden is an amazing basketball player IMO.
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#439 » by Scubetrolis » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:14 pm

As I have continued to say, #thetimeline is the biggest joke in the world. We have Booker, who seems like a solid 2nd option, and nothing else. I still can't believe we didn't trade the 4th pick for Irving.

Chriss and Bender are really disappointing this year. Tyler Ulis is only here because his best friend is Booker, and Mike James isn't any better.

Alex Len...he is so bad, but he's not at the same time. Like, he just reminds me so much of Robin Lopez. The size is there, but they just do so many things that I don't understand. I still think we should keep him if possible as a backup to big sauce.

Josh Jackson has been OK. His defense is much worse than advertised, but his shooting is better than I thought it would be? He is so raw, but I think he may make a big jump between year 2 and 3.

TJ Warren is great, I will be curious to see how him and Jackson mesh together in the next 3 years or so.
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Re: Game 16: Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Thursday, November 16th, 8:30PM, MST 

Post#440 » by King4Day » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:27 pm

ATTL wrote:Keeping your starters in when you're up big. Something bad could happen.


I def think that's why Coach D pulled Harden before he got 50. It's one thing if the game was close but it would come off bad had he stayed in through the end.
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