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[DirtyDez]

The Sixers are going to be a tough out with Embiid and those guards. Tobias Harris is a pretty great #4 guy now.

Who is their #3 guy?

[lilfishi22]

The Sixers are going to be a tough out with Embiid and those guards. Tobias Harris is a pretty great #4 guy now.

Who is their #3 guy?

Maxey. He's been pretty good this season and he only just turned 21.

[WeekapaugGroove]

OKC ended up $23mil under the salary floor, that gets split up among their players. Going to be a party in the OKC lockeroom tonight.

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[bwgood77]

The Sixers are going to be a tough out with Embiid and those guards. Tobias Harris is a pretty great #4 guy now.

Who is their #3 guy?

It's weird how identical their #s are in places. Maxey is the better 3 pt shooter but Harris the 2 pt shooter so their efficiency is almost identical Harris gets more boards, Maxey slightly more assists and the steals and blocks are similar..as well as their defense (Harris a bit better). Harris scores a little more too.

Harris is probably #3 but barely. Maxey may overtake him and handles the ball more. But Harris a very nice stretch 4 who can pass and rebound.

[bwgood77]

The Sixers are going to be a tough out with Embiid and those guards. Tobias Harris is a pretty great #4 guy now.

Who is their #3 guy?

Maxey. He's been pretty good this season and he only just turned 21.

Yet another guy we could have taken over Jalen Smith. Would be nice to have him, Bane or Haliburton on rookie contracts for the next two years right when we are in tax trouble..wouldn't need to be looking for guards either...and may not have traded for Shamet giving us another pick.

[lilfishi22]

Who is their #3 guy?

Maxey. He's been pretty good this season and he only just turned 21.

Yet another guy we could have taken over Jalen Smith. Would be nice to have him, Bane or Haliburton on rookie contracts for the next two years right when we are in tax trouble..wouldn't need to be looking for guards either...and may not have traded for Shamet giving us another pick.

Yeah. Jones has made two lotto picks in his time with the Suns and one is a massive bust (from Suns perspective) and the other was a fantastic trade/pick. I'm not mad he didn't get another shot in the 2021 draft and just moved it. That said, Shamet hasn't worked out either.

[thamadkant]

OKC ended up $23mil under the salary floor, that gets split up among their players. Going to be a party in the OKC lockeroom tonight.

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is that how it works?? then young players would love to be on bad teams with cap room... rookie contracts plus split the left over.

[suns12345]

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is that how it works?? then young players would love to be on bad teams with cap room... rookie contracts plus split the left over.

Does it get split equally? or relative to their contract amounts?

i.e. if Shai is a max player getting 30% of the cap or whatever, he gets 30% of the $23 milly

[Frank Lee]

Spillin milk about that draft is retreading what we all suspected from day one. Halliburton was a no brainer, and from where it stands, looks like Jones out thunk hisself



Oh well… we still have the best record

[bwgood77]

Haliburton 6-7, 14 pts, 2-2 from 3 and 4 ast at the half in his first game with the Pacers...leading the Cavs by 11. Maxey playing major minutes and a big role, scoring like 17 ppg, 5 apg for the Sixers, Bones Hyland starting for the Nuggets, Ayo playing nice minutes for the Bulls, the list goes on....Bane a stud for Memphis, the list goes on. Late picks, keeping cheap contracts on the books, making solid picks, etc.

While we continue to trade or give up on lotto picks for a 9th-11th man. Obviously it seems like a dumb quibble when a contender but it's not all that far off from selling picks when we were a contender.

It's just a pet peeve of mine and bad cap management. Giving up the pick for Paul was obviously a smart move even though I wished we didn't have to include a pick at the time. I hated giving up the pick for Shamet but tried to understand and come around on it. But I certainly never expected to pay him $11 million a year in our prime luxury tax trouble years. Then adding more salary with Craig when Smith expired.

Again, I like the Craig add and think he will help but we just continue to get rid of rookie contracts (I know it probably didn't matter given we declined the option on him anyway) but between Craig and Shamet we added $16 million on our books next year for two "ok" bench guys when we are hesitant to sign Ayton, one of, if not our most important piece in the playoffs last year.

It just really sucks to see all these other teams use picks after ours to be major pieces while on their cheap rookie contracts.

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[suns12345]

Haliburton 6-7, 14 pts, 2-2 from 3 and 4 ast at the half in his first game with the Pacers...leading the Cavs by 11. Maxey playing major minutes and a big role, scoring like 17 ppg, 5 apg for the Sixers, Bones Hyland starting for the Nuggets, Ayo playing nice minutes for the Bulls, the list goes on....Bane a stud for Memphis, the list goes on. Late picks, keeping cheap contracts on the books, making solid picks, etc.

While we continue to trade or give up on lotto picks for a 9th-11th man. Obviously it seems like a dumb quibble when a contender but it's not all that far off from selling picks when we were a contender.

It's just a pet peeve of mine and bad cap management. Giving up the pick for Paul was obviously a smart move even though I wished we didn't have to include a pick at the time. I hated giving up the pick for Shamet but tried to understand and come around on it. But I certainly never expected to pay him $11 million a year in our prime luxury tax trouble years. Then adding more salary with Craig when Smith expired.

Again, I like the Craig add and think he will help but we just continue to get rid of rookie contracts (I know it probably didn't matter given we declined the option on him anyway) but between Craig and Shamet we added $16 million on our books next year for two "ok" bench guys when we are hesitant to sign Ayton, one of, if not our most important piece in the playoffs last year.

It just really sucks to see all these other teams use picks after ours to be major pieces while on their cheap rookie contracts.

/rant

This is fair, and i know haliburton seemed an obvious choice to some here, but i still maintain that this sort of thinking is fools gold... These good late picks are 1 out of 60 players. 50 players in every draft are trash. I know its nice to think JJ would pick the right dude, but most GMs dont pick the right dude.

So yeh, having Hali or Maxey or whoever would be good, but just because we made the draft pick doesnt mean we wouldve got it right.

[bwgood77]

Haliburton 6-7, 14 pts, 2-2 from 3 and 4 ast at the half in his first game with the Pacers...leading the Cavs by 11. Maxey playing major minutes and a big role, scoring like 17 ppg, 5 apg for the Sixers, Bones Hyland starting for the Nuggets, Ayo playing nice minutes for the Bulls, the list goes on....Bane a stud for Memphis, the list goes on. Late picks, keeping cheap contracts on the books, making solid picks, etc.

While we continue to trade or give up on lotto picks for a 9th-11th man. Obviously it seems like a dumb quibble when a contender but it's not all that far off from selling picks when we were a contender.

It's just a pet peeve of mine and bad cap management. Giving up the pick for Paul was obviously a smart move even though I wished we didn't have to include a pick at the time. I hated giving up the pick for Shamet but tried to understand and come around on it. But I certainly never expected to pay him $11 million a year in our prime luxury tax trouble years. Then adding more salary with Craig when Smith expired.

Again, I like the Craig add and think he will help but we just continue to get rid of rookie contracts (I know it probably didn't matter given we declined the option on him anyway) but between Craig and Shamet we added $16 million on our books next year for two "ok" bench guys when we are hesitant to sign Ayton, one of, if not our most important piece in the playoffs last year.

It just really sucks to see all these other teams use picks after ours to be major pieces while on their cheap rookie contracts.

/rant

This is fair, and i know haliburton seemed an obvious choice to some here, but i still maintain that this sort of thinking is fools gold... These good late picks are 1 out of 60 players. 50 players in every draft are trash. I know its nice to think JJ would pick the right dude, but most GMs dont pick the right dude.

So yeh, having Hali or Maxey or whoever would be good, but just because we made the draft pick doesnt mean we wouldve got it right.

I know and that's kind of my rationale. But we knew they had worked out Bane twice too. Even if they made that pick though everyone would have thought a reach it would have been nice, Haliburton was the obvious pick to a lot of people, especially with an aging PG. Anyway, I know people are tired of picking up on that one.

And I don't know who JJ would have picked at 30th this past draft. Of course people talk Ayo more after the fact, but it wasn't on the list of guys the Suns worked out or apparently liked. And many other names were mentioned a lot more here like Neemias Queta and 5-7 other guards.

Anyway, I just think it's good to try and use your picks to have those cost controlled assets..they are the most valuable thing to have with a salary cap and all the big deals. It wouldn't be as big of a deal if we didn't have Sarver as the owner, knowing that he gets rid of these picks and then later gets rid of more to dump contracts like KT or doesn't re-sign guys..and there are now rumblings that he won't pay Ayton....though he kind of has to since he didn't trade him.

I am very interested to see how the summer pans out and next year's trade deadline...if Sarver pays a big tax, dumps contracts with picks, is able to unload contracts, trades Ayton for someone cheaper to reduce tax, etc.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Sacramento and Dallas are how we use to be with mystifying trades.

[lilfishi22]

Sacramento and Dallas are how we use to be with mystifying trades.

The KP for Bertans/Dinwiddie move is reminiscent of the salary dump carousel of Knight then Ryan Anderson then culminating with the waiving of Tyler Johnson.

[Mulhollanddrive]

LeBron choking clutch FTs.

[Revived]

Klay looks like he’s back. Defensively he’s looked a bit weak but on the other end, he’s added some handles to his already elite shooting ability.

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[Ghost of Kleine]

Klay looks like he’s back. Defensively he’s looked a bit weak but on the other end, he’s added some handles to his already elite shooting ability.

I'm kind of intrigued to see how Klay might match up against Cam next time we play them, as I personally see Johnson as a slightly bigger Klay in terms of projection.

[phx#7]

OKC ended up $23mil under the salary floor, that gets split up among their players. Going to be a party in the OKC lockeroom tonight.

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Pretty sure it is distributed based on tenure. Favors and Muscala really going to live it up on a team full of youngsters.