The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason

[Frank Lee]

Just wait until we tell Brandon Knight he's not starting next season.

Just wait until we tell Miyagi

[BobbieL]

Damn KLove is really stinkin it up and Cavs fans are sick of him. Hard to believe he was a 26/13 guy two years ago. All these 1 yr deals Lebron keeps signing really limits their ideas. David Griffin has his hands full.

I said it at the deadline - Morris and either Chandler or Knight for Love would have been the best deal for both teams

The Cavs get a guy that balances their rotation better in Morris - also can go small ball better.

Suns get a guy to build around.

Cavs are losing Mozgov this summer. I don't see them beating either the SPurs or Warriors. Hmm, Chandler and Knight for Love - does that help them in any way?

[BobbieL]

Chandler wants out if the Suns are rebuilding? Translation: he wants out. What does he expect to happen before next season. Booker, Len, and Warren are the future of this team. I do not think Goodwin is part of that group anymore because he hardly plays now. Anyway, the team sucked this year even when they were fully healthy so it is not like them getting healthier will make a difference.

The only way I see them contending next year is if the hypothetical scenario I mentioned recently happens. That situation involves the Suns trading their pick and Knight for Blake Griffin. Then the team signs Kevin Durant. I give that about a 1 percent chance of happening. So with those odds, I assume Chandler will ask for a trade prior to next season.

Markieff was a guy that would have been of value in a Blake Griffin trade. But that was not happening at the trading deadline and thankfully, he is gone.

I now think it puts into play that top pick if the Suns want to get Blake Griffin. Granted, it was probably always in play. Maybe put some restrictions on it though - top three or four.

[SunsBlood23]

Chandler wants out if we rebuild.

Then start playing good OR take a pay cut.

Is there any way to trade everyone not named Booker, Warren or Len for expirings?

I'm really hoping we get a lot more than expirings for Bledsoe. We can probably trade him at the deadline next year or next offseason and see what we can get and hopefully he would have built up his trade value to the max. However, if he is playing as well next year as he did earlier in the season and with Booker as a perfect compliment and Len finally coming around, we might be in a playoff spot but probably not. In which case we wouldn't trade him at the deadline.

[JMac1]

Chandler wants out if the Suns are rebuilding? Translation: he wants out. What does he expect to happen before next season. Booker, Len, and Warren are the future of this team. I do not think Goodwin is part of that group anymore because he hardly plays now. Anyway, the team sucked this year even when they were fully healthy so it is not like them getting healthier will make a difference.

The only way I see them contending next year is if the hypothetical scenario I mentioned recently happens. That situation involves the Suns trading their pick and Knight for Blake Griffin. Then the team signs Kevin Durant. I give that about a 1 percent chance of happening. So with those odds, I assume Chandler will ask for a trade prior to next season.

Markieff was a guy that would have been of value in a Blake Griffin trade. But that was not happening at the trading deadline and thankfully, he is gone.

I now think it puts into play that top pick if the Suns want to get Blake Griffin. Granted, it was probably always in play. Maybe put some restrictions on it though - top three or four.

If you can get Blake, then you keep Bledsoe, because you are opening your championship (attempt) window immediately and Booker plays a supporting role until Blake and Bledsoe time is up.

I'd trade a lot of picks and Warren and Len for Blake.

[saintEscaton]

This geriatric bum needs to GTFO, what was Tyson expecting coming here? He's cashed in his final paycheck before retirement and now wants to go ring chasing one last time. His corpse is nearly unmovable but clearing cap space is the last of our concerns, we're pursuing no one this summer. Hope we find a taker without giving up major assets. We may be left on the hook if we choose to buy him out. Hate to say it but told ya so, so much for that veteran leadership and locker room presence, he's an eternal reminder of how McD put all his eggs in one basket and struck out in the LMA sweepstakes.

[JMac1]

This geriatric bum needs to GTFO, what was Tyson expecting coming here? He's cashed in his final paycheck before retirement and now wants to go ring chasing one last time. His corpse is nearly unmovable but clearing cap space is the last of our concerns, we're pursuing no one this summer. Hope we find ataker who can take him off our hands without giving up major assets. We may be left on the hook if we choose to buy him out. Hate to say it but told ya so, so much for that veteran leadership and locker room, he's an eternal reminder of how McD put all his eggs in one basket and struck out in the LMA sweepstakes.

Solid point. You just pissed me off. That bastard knew he wouldn't get the kind of pay day he got from us from a contending team, so he goes through us to get the contract and now wants to be traded.........eff that buster; why? Because that puts us in another situation with a whinny vet where we would have to add assets with him in order to trade him, eff that, let the bastard rot here on the bench, he is getting well paid for it.

[BobbieL]

Chandler wants out if the Suns are rebuilding? Translation: he wants out. What does he expect to happen before next season. Booker, Len, and Warren are the future of this team. I do not think Goodwin is part of that group anymore because he hardly plays now. Anyway, the team sucked this year even when they were fully healthy so it is not like them getting healthier will make a difference.

The only way I see them contending next year is if the hypothetical scenario I mentioned recently happens. That situation involves the Suns trading their pick and Knight for Blake Griffin. Then the team signs Kevin Durant. I give that about a 1 percent chance of happening. So with those odds, I assume Chandler will ask for a trade prior to next season.

Markieff was a guy that would have been of value in a Blake Griffin trade. But that was not happening at the trading deadline and thankfully, he is gone.

I now think it puts into play that top pick if the Suns want to get Blake Griffin. Granted, it was probably always in play. Maybe put some restrictions on it though - top three or four.

If you can get Blake, then you keep Bledsoe, because you are opening your championship (attempt) window immediately and Booker plays a supporting role until Blake and Bledsoe time is up.

I'd trade a lot of picks and Warren and Len for Blake.

So your team is Bledsoe, Booker, Blake and whatever
I like it

[saintEscaton]

Markieff was a guy that would have been of value in a Blake Griffin trade. But that was not happening at the trading deadline and thankfully, he is gone.

I now think it puts into play that top pick if the Suns want to get Blake Griffin. Granted, it was probably always in play. Maybe put some restrictions on it though - top three or four.

If you can get Blake, then you keep Bledsoe, because you are opening your championship (attempt) window immediately and Booker plays a supporting role until Blake and Bledsoe time is up.

I'd trade a lot of picks and Warren and Len for Blake.

So your team is Bledsoe, Booker, Blake and whatever
I like it

7th seed at best

[bwgood77]

This might be taken out of context a bit. Did you see the actual interview after the Lakers game? It sounded like he was basically saying he wanted to compete and not lose on purpose.

Make no mistake, I'm sure he'd rather be on a contender, but I think that story twists things a bit. I don't think he minds his role on the Suns, but he wants no part of trying to lose, obviously.

I'm all for trading him though if someone wants him, and they might after free agency when is contract might not look that bad.

Nice try from the uber-optimist.... I see it as a diplomatic request... a public shot across the bow. Either obtain some legit NBA-ers or trade me. Don't try to load this roster up with 3 more rooks. TC becomes Mulligan #2 (or is it 3 or 4?) Thank goodness the cap is increasing.


McMully should stay far away from free agency for a while.

I think he wants to win, like any player. I don't think anyone expected us to play as badly as we did for such a long stretch.

“I’m excited with the direction we’re going,” Chandler said. “Of late, it’s showing in the win column but I just like what we’re doing. I like the mentality. I like the culture. I think things are really changing around here. It puts a little pep in your step.”

Chandler, 33, had been on playoff teams for seven of the previous eight seasons and expected to be on one when he signed with the Suns.

The Suns’ season unraveled, sending Chandler into several stages of internal battles for what his place should be with a young, losing team.

He is back to averaging a double-double lately, getting 10.7 points and 11.0 rebounds per game over the past six games – a 3-3 Suns stretch. He had two late-game slam follows that positioned the Suns to win Monday against Minnesota.

“It’s amazing what the mind can do to you,” Chandler said. “When you’re carrying so much weight, you don’t have the pep in your step and the excitement that you normally play with. Once you’re able to release some of that stuff and the team starts playing the right way, it’s amazing how much better you feel.”

Chandler has pledged to “do whatever it takes” in the offseason, from free-agency recruiting to organizing offseason workouts, to help the Suns succeed.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2016/03/17/tyson-chandler-vets-buying-into-earl-watsons-ways/81891312/

[WeekapaugGroove]

I would love to know who the main driver was in the chandler signing mcd or Sarver because it was a silly move from the get go. You just don't pay a guy in his 30s 50+ million when youre not a contender and also have a guy you just picked 5th playing the same position. And to sell it as a move for leadership and recruiting was dumb.

[JMac1]

Markieff was a guy that would have been of value in a Blake Griffin trade. But that was not happening at the trading deadline and thankfully, he is gone.

I now think it puts into play that top pick if the Suns want to get Blake Griffin. Granted, it was probably always in play. Maybe put some restrictions on it though - top three or four.

If you can get Blake, then you keep Bledsoe, because you are opening your championship (attempt) window immediately and Booker plays a supporting role until Blake and Bledsoe time is up.

I'd trade a lot of picks and Warren and Len for Blake.

So your team is Bledsoe, Booker, Blake and whatever
I like it

No smart/dumb ass.... it is the core. But considering most people are too obtuse to fill in the blank I guess I'll leave that up to you.

[JMac1]

If you can get Blake, then you keep Bledsoe, because you are opening your championship (attempt) window immediately and Booker plays a supporting role until Blake and Bledsoe time is up.

I'd trade a lot of picks and Warren and Len for Blake.

So your team is Bledsoe, Booker, Blake and whatever
I like it

7th seed at best

Ya, those five other teams are killers in the West

[saintEscaton]

So your team is Bledsoe, Booker, Blake and whatever
I like it

7th seed at best

Ya, those five other teams are killers in the West

We're not making any noise in the playoffs with that squad and a gutted bench that for sure. If Booker holds up and gets more than he gives up on the other end maybe we crack .500, but that is the ultimate treadmill move just not enough to propel us into legitimate contention. None of this is ever happening so dunno why I'm even engaging the farfetched

[Damkac]

Chandler wants out if we rebuild.

Then start playing good OR take a pay cut.

Is there any way to trade everyone not named Booker, Warren or Len for expirings?

I'm really hoping we get a lot more than expirings for Bledsoe. We can probably trade him at the deadline next year or next offseason and see what we can get and hopefully he would have built up his trade value to the max. However, if he is playing as well next year as he did earlier in the season and with Booker as a perfect compliment and Len finally coming around, we might be in a playoff spot but probably not. In which case we wouldn't trade him at the deadline.

I'm hoping to get more for Bledsoe too but since Chandler has negative value and I'm starting to believe Knight value may be negative too (but probably it's just neutral or a bit above) I feel like I wouldn't mind give all 3 for nothing. I know cap space is useless for us right now I would just like to clear the roster and start new season with team made of young players + few cheap smart veterans only for mentoring.
None of Bled, Chandler and Knight I imagine as a part of our future contender team.

[JMac1]

7th seed at best

Ya, those five other teams are killers in the West

We're not making any noise in the playoffs with that squad and a gutted bench that for sure. If Booker holds up and gets more than he gives up on the other end maybe we crack .500, but that is the ultimate treadmill move just not enough to propel us into legitimate contention. None of this is ever happening so dunno why I'm even engaging the farfetched

That's your opinion, enjoy it.

[Saberestar]

MR PAUL is it true da chandler wants out o PHX??

No, it seems people are taking an answer to a question about wins affecting this year's draft lottery chances and twisting it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/paulcoro/status/711359364460707840

[bwgood77]

If you can get Blake, then you keep Bledsoe, because you are opening your championship (attempt) window immediately and Booker plays a supporting role until Blake and Bledsoe time is up.

I'd trade a lot of picks and Warren and Len for Blake.

So your team is Bledsoe, Booker, Blake and whatever
I like it

No smart/dumb ass.... it is the core. But considering most people are too obtuse to fill in the blank I guess I'll leave that up to you.

So someone likes your proposed team and you call them a dumbass?

[bwgood77]

MR PAUL is it true da chandler wants out o PHX??

No, it seems people are taking an answer to a question about wins affecting this year's draft lottery chances and twisting it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/paulcoro/status/711359364460707840

Yeah, if you saw the interview it was clearly regarding playing hard vs losing for better lotto position.

[JMac1]

So your team is Bledsoe, Booker, Blake and whatever
I like it

No smart/dumb ass.... it is the core. But considering most people are too obtuse to fill in the blank I guess I'll leave that up to you.

So someone likes your proposed team and you call them a dumbass?

I miss read it and left, my bad. I was responding to the 7th seed at best. And I was calling him a smart/dumb ass, because I thought he was being facetious.