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Post#441 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:07 pm

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DowJones wrote:Cavs fan here—would you trade a 3rd or 4th pick in the draft for Collin Sexton if Cleveland takes Morant #2 or 3?


I think that at that point, If Barrett is there, We take him, Then trade back with a team like New Orleans, Or whatever team is in range for us to get Brandon Clarke. :D

Personally, I'd push hard for a trade with the Hawks, Something like Barrett/ Jackson/ And the Milwaukee pick for Both of their picks.

Then take Brandon Clarke and Colby White. Or Brandon Clarke and Nikeal Alexander Walker. Then pick up Beverly, Joseph, Or Collison in free agency. And roll out into next season. :nod:

You must be a hawks fan. Let me get this right you want to trade RJ Barrett who could end up being the best player in this draft but you’re not done. You want to throw in josh Jackson who was voted to become the best player of his draft. But you didn’t stop there. You want to also throw in an extra first round pick. And In return all you want are two rookies who will probably be rotation players at best? Sounds like a great trade for the hawks
Jackson alone could get you either one of those guys. Colby White is a bust waiting to happen



Me a hawks fan, Not at all man......lol. I do actually really like Barrett, And agree that he MIGHT become the best player in this draft as well. Heck, I've even proposed considering trying to develop him at point guard in my past posts, next to Booker due to his play making abilities, size and supreme athleticism.

Also, I really like Jackson too, However,And I think that in time, He'll progress somewhere along the lines of a Gerald Wallace( a premiere utility defender)But...... Do to the current glut at wing position, along with his perceived performance struggles, I just don't think the suns will choose to keep him.

Now, for my part, I'd rather have them trade Warren instead. But......again, I believe they're saving him for a trade to acquire a higher salaried, higher value, potential star type of player.

I can see the suns possibly moving him to open up cap space going into free agency, because they'll most likely choose to keep Oubre, And Bridges based on their performance, And recent impact on the team.

Also, I see the suns using Warren, along with Tyler Johnsons' expiring and a future first or two for a near all star player sometime next season. Now, having said that, I can see that we disagree on the projected value of the above mentioned players, And that's fine.

However, despite how this draft is currently perceived, I think that history has shown us that potential star players can be hidden anywhere in the draft. Also, most that end up becoming stars or great players, didn't initially match their projections in their respective drafts obviously. Otherwise, Their wouldn't be draft steals every year.

As for the trade, If we fall to 3 or 4 in the draft and thusly lose out on both Zion and Morant, Then walking away with two lottery picks that can still address our two areas of greatest need is an obvious win in my book. First.....Brandon Clarke, though somewhat undersized at 6'8, Is very good in the post as an efficient scorer, But more importantly he's an unbelievable shot blocker and positional defender at the 4.

And Coby White, has size at 6'5, can play either guard position, and is a BIG TIME shot maker, in the mold of Gilbert Arenas, and/or Jamal Murray. He'd provide a much needed 3 point shooting asset next to Booker, And is a decent passer as well. Our 3 point shooting has to improve, And he's lethal anywhere on the floor pretty much. Now if it's defense that you prefer next to Booker, then the other option is there in Nikeal Alexander Walker. He's also got great size at point guard at 6'5, can pass and score with either hand, And is a really good overall defender too.

Also, All of the above mentioned players have shown the ability to put up impressive numbers repeatedly

Brandon Clarke: Clarke has a PER of 36.3, and his per .40 extrapolations are: 24.3 points/ 11.5 rebounds/ 2.6 assists, 2.1 steals/4.5 blocks/ 2.3 turnovers. Computers' acting up and deleting my response...…. :banghead: :-? ….To be continued I guess! :(





........So, the potential is there obviously, despite whatever their current projections may infer.
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Post#442 » by Sunzgunz » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:59 pm

Damn it nbadraft.net!!! They have us taking Morant in the 1st round and Clarke in the 2nd.

Can you imagine? Oh well, one can dream!!!!
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Post#443 » by bwgood77 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:22 pm

Sunzgunz wrote:Damn it nbadraft.net!!! They have us taking Morant in the 1st round and Clarke in the 2nd.

Can you imagine? Oh well, one can dream!!!!


Forgot about their site. Their mock looks WAY off. Culver 11th? Rui 4th?
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Post#444 » by Crives » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:24 pm

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Sunzgunz wrote:Damn it nbadraft.net!!! They have us taking Morant in the 1st round and Clarke in the 2nd.

Can you imagine? Oh well, one can dream!!!!


Forgot about their site. Their mock looks WAY off. Culver 11th? Rui 4th?


Do you have a preferred mock draft site?
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Post#445 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:37 pm

Sunzgunz wrote:Damn it nbadraft.net!!! They have us taking Morant in the 1st round and Clarke in the 2nd.

Can you imagine? Oh well, one can dream!!!!


Coby White @ 5. Well, well. Who's been calling this guy a stud around here for a while?

I do think we desperately need a scoring guard off the bench. More than a guy with Clarke's skillset, though? WTF is Clarke doing so low in this mock? Do they not read the Stepien?

If you had nothing but lowball offers, you could trade TJ to Cleveland for Clarkson if you draft Zion or Clarke, and for Nance if you draft Morant or White. Bad value, obviously, but what's the alternative? Is Blake Griffin on the block? Would a Warren + Jackson + MIL 1st package be enough to NOP for Jrue? Could Dinwiddie, Harris, Monte Morris or Derrick White be available in an exchange for TJ? Would MIL take him into cap space in exchange for say DiVincenzo and Ilyasova, freeing up more money for us to pursue Cory Joseph or Mudiay? Would Rose except the MLE? How about Tyus Jones?

What other quasi-realistic possibilities am I missing?
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Post#446 » by bwgood77 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:43 pm

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Sunzgunz wrote:Damn it nbadraft.net!!! They have us taking Morant in the 1st round and Clarke in the 2nd.

Can you imagine? Oh well, one can dream!!!!


Forgot about their site. Their mock looks WAY off. Culver 11th? Rui 4th?


Do you have a preferred mock draft site?


I don't pay too much attention to mocks any more, but more of rankings and big boards. the stepien has by far the most draft content out there (though they lost 1 or 2 of their best scouts/analysts/writers). If I had to follow a mock I'd probably go with the ringer who are pretty good with their draft content.

Some of the users on the nba draft forum here seem to be very knowledgeable with prospects....at least a handful...but you have to figure out which ones are.
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Post#447 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:52 pm

I love the articles by suns media calling for them to sign both a starting PF and PG in FA.... Umm they got like 6 million in space lol

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Post#448 » by bwgood77 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:56 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:I love the articles by suns media calling for them to sign both a starting PF and PG in FA.... Umm they got like 6 million in space lol

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Yeah, I wish David Nash wouldn't have thrown $15 million out there because that doesn't include a draft pick hold. I think you should start with that hold, especially if you are keeping a couple of the other holds on, and work on what you should do from there.

Most people don't seem to realize that the number doesn't include our draft pick. If we drop to like the 6th or 7th pick we should have more like $9 or $10 in cap space.
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Post#449 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:59 pm

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DowJones wrote:Cavs fan here—would you trade a 3rd or 4th pick in the draft for Collin Sexton if Cleveland takes Morant #2 or 3?


I think that at that point, If Barrett is there, We take him, Then trade back with a team like New Orleans, Or whatever team is in range for us to get Brandon Clarke. :D

Personally, I'd push hard for a trade with the Hawks, Something like Barrett/ Jackson/ And the Milwaukee pick for Both of their picks.

Then take Brandon Clarke and Coby White. Or Brandon Clarke and Nickeal Alexander Walker. Then pick up Beverly, Joseph, Or Collison in free agency. And roll out into next season. :nod:

You must be a hawks fan. Let me get this right you want to trade RJ Barrett who could end up being the best player in this draft but you’re not done. You want to throw in josh Jackson who was voted to become the best player of his draft. But you didn’t stop there. You want to also throw in an extra first round pick. And In return all you want are two rookies who will probably be rotation players at best? Sounds like a great trade for the hawks
Jackson alone could get you either one of those guys. Coby White is a bust waiting to happen


LOL.....Hawks fan, Not at all. IF we should find ourselves missing out on either Zion Williamson or Ja morant, Then still being able to walk away with two lottery picks that address our two greatest areas of positional need, Would be a win in my book.

Now, Where to begin, First, While I do actually like RJ Barrett, And while I will agree that he MIGHT become the best player in this draft( just as any player has the potential to become) We currently have a congested glut at the wing position, And as talented as he is, he's a bit high usage, especially with Booker.

And even though I myself in past posts, have even proposed trying to play him next to Booker, to exploit his size, athleticism, and playmaking ability, I just see the suns front office going with Oubre and Bridges, given their impact to our team and production given their skillsets. And IF trading back using Barrett could get us a nice piece, along with two high potential players to further address our positional holes in our roster, common sense says you do it!


Now, to address the trade details, I actually like Jackson, And think that he may develop into a premiere defensive utility player along the lines of Gerald Wallace. However, currently his value isn't very good around the league, due to his struggles on the court. Next the Milwaukee Pick, is most likely going to project around the mid to late 20s' at best given that the Bucks are the best team in the east currently too. So, If you can move it now in a package for two lottery caliber players in Clarke and Coby White, You definitely do it!!!


Next, To address the perceived value of Both Brandon Clarke and Coby White:


Brandon Clarke:

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/01/18/draft-notes-easy-case-brandon-clarke/.

https://www.slipperstillfits.com/2019/1/29/18201461/brandon-clarke-national-player-of-the-year.

I’m going to just put up some numbers for poops and chuckles, using per 40 minute averages to help offset minute differentials (from Sports-Reference.com).
Player A: 30.9 points, 13 rebounds, 3.3 assists, 2.8 steals, 2.6 blocks, 3.4 turnovers
Player B: 24.3 points, 11.5 rebounds, 2.6 assists 2.1 steals, 4.5 blocks, 2.3 turnovers.
Player A: 69.5 eFG%, 134.3 ORtg, 82.4 DRtg, .365 Win Shares per 40 minutes
Player B: 69.5 eFG%, 137 ORtg, 84.5 DRtg, .331 Win Shares per 40 minutes

I will cut the intrigue: Zion Williamson is Player A and Brandon Clarke is Player B. Clearly, the gulf between the two players is as large as the Pacific Ocean. Sarcasm aside, this is not the Williamson is not a great player post, because he is. Zion Williamson is absolutely electric to watch and is a complete game changer. But guess what, in many of the same ways that people ring the Zion Williamson for World Leader bell, Clarke excels in the same fashion.
In many of the same ways that people ring the Zion Williamson for World Leader bell, Clarke excels in the same fashion.
Williamson’s PER is through the roof. There is no denying he is a special talent. But Clarke is third in PER at 36.3, which is higher than any player in the previous two seasons.






Coby White:
A 6'5 scoring guard with a really smooth allaround game. A really good passer and Lethal shooter from almost anywhere on the court. He's also really crafty scoring at the rim in traffic, similiar to how Nash was for us.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/coby-white-1.html.

His per .40 percentages are: 24.2 points/ 5.6 assists/ 4.9 rebounds/53%fg percentage/38% 3 point percentage/and 81% free throw percentage.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/freshman-rankings-uncs-coby-white-is-freshman-of-the-week-zions-lead-on-rj-barrett-narrowing-in-frosh-watch/.

The scoring blur from Goldsboro, North Carolina, averaged 31.0 points, 5.0 rebounds, 4.0 assists and 2.0 steals in the Heels' wins over Syracuse and Clemson in the previous seven days. UNC is now 24-5 with a 14-2 mark in the ACC. White was effective and efficient, shooting 60 percent from the field and making 12 of his 22 3-pointers in those games (54.5 percent). He also made 14 of his 16 attempts from the free throw line.


White is setting UNC records almost by the week, which is amazing in and of itself, but has been overshadowed by the other two notable frosh in the ACC this season. White's back-to-back games with at least six made threes is a school record. He's the only Carolina player to put up three 30-point games in his first season. Per UNC, "White now owns the third-, fourth- and fifth-highest scoring games ever by a Tar Heel freshman."



Now just watch his videos, And tell me that you don't honestly like his clean, near perfect shooting. And his passing too!

[youtube] https://youtu.be/4ACw_C59W30 [/youtube] There's also the Ayton connection, since he's from the Bahamas too.

Last but not least, Nickeil Alexander Walker:
A 6'5 combo guard with a smooth game can pass and score with either hand, And is great defensively, and has been putting up big numbers too. ( Is the cousin of Shai Gilgeous Alexander).

https://basketballsocietyonline.com/nickeil-alexander-walker-scouting-report .

Nickeil Alexander-Walker is one of the best pure scorers in the 2019 draft. The Toronto, Ontario native leads the Virginia Tech Hokies in scoring at around 18 points per game, and can fill it up in a variety of ways. Alexander-Walker is a sniper from long range, possessing excellent form and a quick release. He works extremely hard moving off the ball to get open, and it pays off, as he should be hitting his threes at greater than a 40% clip by the end of the season.


One of Alexander-Walker’s biggest strengths is his high basketball IQ and great awareness on both ends of the floor. On offense, he’s one of the best players in the country at getting open off a screen, and he does so by being able to read how his defender fights through the screen, and then countering by going the opposite way from where the defender anticipates him to go. His IQ is also displayed on offense through his decision making and distributing abilities. Alexander-Walker averages a solid amount of assists per game which is especially impressive being the second ball-handling option behind Justin Robinson, a very ball-dominant point guard.
On defense, Alexander-Walker always has his head on a swivel, and has a knack for anticipating passes and gets into passing lanes often, evidenced by the greater than two steals per game he grabs.


https://www.thestepien.com/2019/01/06/draft-notes-attempting-understand-nickeil-alexander-walker/.

The most important offensive numbers to keep in mind for NAW, given his volume, are his shooting percentages. The 60 percent from 2-point range, 45 percent from 3-point range with 50 makes, and 77.5 percent from free throw line club is very sparse. Even if we go down to 55 percent from 2 and 43 percent from 3, we end up with a select group of NBA guys: Doug McDermott, Ian Clark, Kirk Hinrich, Ty Lawson, Fred Hoiberg, Buddy Hield, Robert Covington, Kyle Korver, Landry Shamet, Mikal Bridges, and Rex Walters.








So overall, I definitely think the star potential and premiere value is there, If the research on these players is there. I know it's fun to think about the exciting highly touted top prospects. But I also think that it's important to not undervalue other potential star players, that can be hidden througghout the draft too. :wink:
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Post#450 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:09 pm

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Sunzgunz wrote:Damn it nbadraft.net!!! They have us taking Morant in the 1st round and Clarke in the 2nd.

Can you imagine? Oh well, one can dream!!!!


Coby White @ 5. Well, well. Who's been calling this guy a stud around here for a while?

I do think we desperately need a scoring guard off the bench. More than a guy with Clarke's skillset, though? WTF is Clarke doing so low in this mock? Do they not read the Stepien?

If you had nothing but lowball offers, you could trade TJ to Cleveland for Clarkson if you draft Zion or Clarke, and for Nance if you draft Morant or White. Bad value, obviously, but what's the alternative? Is Blake Griffin on the block? Would a Warren + Jackson + MIL 1st package be enough to NOP for Jrue? Could Dinwiddie, Harris, Monte Morris or Derrick White be available in an exchange for TJ? Would MIL take him into cap space in exchange for say DiVincenzo and Ilyasova, freeing up more money for us to pursue Cory Joseph or Mudiay? Would Rose except the MLE? How about Tyus Jones?

What other quasi-realistic possibilities am I missing?
With respect to Coby White, I think that'd be me and a few others......As I mentioned, I wouldn't mind somehow walking away from this draft with both Brandon Clarke and Coby White, Should we miss out on Zion and Morant. :nod:
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Post#451 » by Revived » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:20 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:I love the articles by suns media calling for them to sign both a starting PF and PG in FA.... Umm they got like 6 million in space lol

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How so? Where’s the cap savings from Tyson Chandler’s huge deal? And then Troy Daniels and Dragan Bender expiring?
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Post#452 » by Kerrsed » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:21 pm

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Sunzgunz wrote:Damn it nbadraft.net!!! They have us taking Morant in the 1st round and Clarke in the 2nd.

Can you imagine? Oh well, one can dream!!!!


Forgot about their site. Their mock looks WAY off. Culver 11th? Rui 4th?


Do you have a preferred mock draft site?


https://www.thestepien.com/2019-draft-rankings/

http://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

HoopsHype also have compiled all of the most recent mock draft projections from NBADraft.net, ESPN, SI.com, The Athletic and Bleacher Report

https://hoopshype.com/2019/03/19/nba-mock-draft-big-board-deandre-hunter-cameron-johnson-jordan-nwora/

I personally like looking at as many mocks from different writers/sites as i can to get a grasp on where everyone THINKS the players are going (Excluding Fan-made Mocks), but when it comes to ACTUAL ANALYTIC'S, BW is right, The Stepien is the way to go.....and i use Tankathon the most for looking at player stats (Strengths/Weaknesses) as they make it very simple and easy to read.
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Post#453 » by Kerrsed » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:24 pm

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:I love the articles by suns media calling for them to sign both a starting PF and PG in FA.... Umm they got like 6 million in space lol

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How so? Where’s the cap savings from Tyson Chandler’s huge deal? And then Troy Daniels and Dragan Bender expiring?


Uhh...... i dont know if you have heard........


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Booker jumps from $3.3M this season to $27M next season.
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Post#454 » by bwgood77 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:28 pm

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Revived wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:I love the articles by suns media calling for them to sign both a starting PF and PG in FA.... Umm they got like 6 million in space lol

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How so? Where’s the cap savings from Tyson Chandler’s huge deal? And then Troy Daniels and Dragan Bender expiring?


Uhh...... i dont know if you have heard........


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Booker jumps from $3.3M this season to $27M next season.


Yeah, if Book would have waited I think we would have like $17 more or something.
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Post#455 » by Revived » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:39 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
Revived wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:I love the articles by suns media calling for them to sign both a starting PF and PG in FA.... Umm they got like 6 million in space lol

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How so? Where’s the cap savings from Tyson Chandler’s huge deal? And then Troy Daniels and Dragan Bender expiring?


Uhh...... i dont know if you have heard........


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Booker jumps from $3.3M this season to $27M next season.

Ah crap, forgot about that. So does this mean if we re-signed Oubre to a pretty big contract then Suns would be in the luxury tax?

But yeah we have a lot of big contract players for a team that’s not particularly good. I would decline Josh Jackson’s option because I’m pretty sure his option $$$ will be pretty high since he was a top 5 pick.

I was on the Warren wagon but his durability is extremely concerning and might have to sell high on him before that contract looks worse with injuries he will have next season.

Suns need to clear up cap space, it’s not like we did what the Cavs did and purposely added bad contracts for draft picks or anything either.
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Post#456 » by Revived » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:39 pm

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Kerrsed wrote:
Revived wrote:How so? Where’s the cap savings from Tyson Chandler’s huge deal? And then Troy Daniels and Dragan Bender expiring?


Uhh...... i dont know if you have heard........


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Booker jumps from $3.3M this season to $27M next season.


Yeah, if Book would have waited I think we would have like $17 more or something.

Jesus, yeah that would’ve made a damn big difference.

I can’t blame him for not wanting the financial security though.
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Post#457 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:56 pm

Well if booker would have waited then I'd actually put stock in the 'Booker is going to ask for a trade' panic camp. He would have had leverage to either threaten to take the QO or go sign a 2+1 offer sheet and be UFA in two years.

Suns traded cap space this summer for locking him up for 5 more years. Booker traded leverage for financial security.

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Post#458 » by itlnsunsfan » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:00 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Well if booker would have waited then I'd actually put stock in the 'Booker is going to ask for a trade' panic camp. He would have had leverage to either threaten to take the QO or go sign a 2+1 offer sheet and be UFA in two years.

Suns traded cap space this summer for locking him up for 5 more years. Booker traded leverage for financial security.

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I'm happy to have him locked up. Cap space be damned. We have a core of Booker, Ayton, and Oubre with a great, young defensive wing in Bridges. In my opinion, we're one star away, which we can easily obtain with a trade by packaging our pick, Warren, JJ, TJ, and the Bucks pick. I think that's a pretty attractive package. Future is bright.
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Post#459 » by darmani » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:12 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:I love the articles by suns media calling for them to sign both a starting PF and PG in FA.... Umm they got like 6 million in space lol

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The worst case scenario for the Suns is the full MLE which will be about $9M which is roughly the same as the Suns cap space with cap holds for Oubre, Holmes and the #4-5 pick. So it's either (a) $9M MLE or (b) $9M cap space + $5M room exception (can be used to sign players for up to 2 years).
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Post#460 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:32 pm

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DowJones wrote:Cavs fan here—would you trade a 3rd or 4th pick in the draft for Collin Sexton if Cleveland takes Morant #2 or 3?


I think that at that point, If Barrett is there, We take him, Then trade back with a team like New Orleans, Or whatever team is in range for us to get Brandon Clarke. :D

Personally, I'd push hard for a trade with the Hawks, Something like Barrett/ Jackson/ And the Milwaukee pick for Both of their picks.

Then take Brandon Clarke and Coby White. Or Brandon Clarke and Nickeal Alexander Walker. Then pick up Beverly, Joseph, Or collison in free agency. And roll out into next season. :nod:

You must be a hawks fan. Let me get this right you want to trade RJ Barrett who could end up being the best player in this draft but you’re not done. You want to throw in josh jackson who was voted to become the best player of his draft. But you didn’t stop there. You want to also throw in an extra first round pick. And In return all you want are two rookies who will probably be rotation players at best? Sounds like a great trade for the hawks
Jackson alone could get you either one of those guys. Coby White is a bust waiting to happen

lol I think everyone who voted would've loved to be able to take back that vote. if we're talking best player of his draft, Markkanen, Tatum, Fox, Mitchell and Collins are easily ahead of Jackson.

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