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Post#441 » by starbosa10 » Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:11 am

Frank Lee wrote:Jeez y’all… it’s not like the punishment doesn’t fit the crime. Crazy some think he should be forced to sell his business because of politically incorrect and rube like behavior. He didn’t hurt anybody. And what he did doesn’t sound too heinous or malicious. Just being a rich turd boss. Well, he did go from goat pranking to a depantsing… :eyebrows: at least he has a sense of humor…

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Pretty sure anyone of us would be fired and charged with a crime if we whipped our genitals out in a work setting. That has nothing to do with political correctness
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Post#442 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:20 am

I'm sure this all will not only help with our already stellar chemistry this year between this, the Crowder situation, the Ayton contract extension situation and the trade issues in general. As well as really enhancing our optics around the league and to other potential players that would've previously had a modicum of interest in playing for us in free agency or via trades. This is gonna be an awesome year no doubt with the incredible momentum that we're generating currently!
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Post#443 » by bwgood77 » Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:23 am

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Frank Lee wrote:Jeez y’all… it’s not like the punishment doesn’t fit the crime. Crazy some think he should be forced to sell his business because of politically incorrect and rube like behavior. He didn’t hurt anybody. And what he did doesn’t sound too heinous or malicious. Just being a rich turd boss. Well, he did go from goat pranking to a depantsing… :eyebrows: at least he has a sense of humor…

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Pretty sure anyone of us would be fired and charged with a crime if we whipped our genitals out in a work setting. That has nothing to do with political correctness


Or if we said the N word or casually minimized women regularly.
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Post#444 » by starbosa10 » Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:27 am

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starbosa10 wrote:
Frank Lee wrote:Jeez y’all… it’s not like the punishment doesn’t fit the crime. Crazy some think he should be forced to sell his business because of politically incorrect and rube like behavior. He didn’t hurt anybody. And what he did doesn’t sound too heinous or malicious. Just being a rich turd boss. Well, he did go from goat pranking to a depantsing… :eyebrows: at least he has a sense of humor…

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Pretty sure anyone of us would be fired and charged with a crime if we whipped our genitals out in a work setting. That has nothing to do with political correctness


Or if we said the N word or casually minimized women regularly.


Exactly. I mean come on. As mentioned by others previously, if any of this leaked as a public recording he'd probably be gone a la Sterling

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Post#446 » by SlovenianDragon » Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:01 am

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bwgood77 wrote:
starbosa10 wrote:
Pretty sure anyone of us would be fired and charged with a crime if we whipped our genitals out in a work setting. That has nothing to do with political correctness


Or if we said the N word or casually minimized women regularly.


Exactly. I mean come on. As mentioned by others previously, if any of this leaked as a public recording he'd probably be gone a la Sterling

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2. Most jobs suck. I think most people think their job blows.

3. The showers at the team facility are probably bigger than average.
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Post#447 » by bwgood77 » Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:31 am

SlovenianDragon wrote:
starbosa10 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Or if we said the N word or casually minimized women regularly.


Exactly. I mean come on. As mentioned by others previously, if any of this leaked as a public recording he'd probably be gone a la Sterling

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1. Safe sex is important.

2. Most jobs suck. I think most people think their job blows.

3. The showers at the team facility are probably bigger than average.


Are you sure with #1 he wasn't telling people "No sex in the office....not sex acts period. We found condoms in the meeting room".
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Post#448 » by Bogyo » Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:17 am

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Lol. Go tell those people to watch the Donaghy docu on Netflix. NBA has been a spineless operation since the Stern days for sure - maybe even before, I was just too young to notice. WWF.
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Post#449 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:42 am

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Lol. Go tell those people to watch the Donaghy docu on Netflix. NBA has been a spineless operation since the Stern days for sure - maybe even before, I was just too young to notice. WWF.

Probably plenty more before my time too but more recently, NBA's complete mishandling of the Darryl Morey HK tweet reminded me just how weak they are. All the rah rah about freedom, equality and all that good stuff only to kowtow to China at the first sign of China's disapproval.
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Post#450 » by Saberestar » Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:07 am

Frank Lee wrote:Jeez y’all… it’s not like the punishment doesn’t fit the crime. Crazy some think he should be forced to sell his business because of politically incorrect and rube like behavior. He didn’t hurt anybody. And what he did doesn’t sound too heinous or malicious. Just being a rich turd boss. Well, he did go from goat pranking to a depantsing… :eyebrows: at least he has a sense of humor…

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I agree with you on this one.

I think that Sarver has an old school and not updated sense of humor, and some of his jokes are too acid for some people to consider it funny. My feeling is that he probably is a bit like Michael Scott.

I have some over 60 yo co-workers and friends who have that same dirty sense of humor who I like and I am pretty sure that they are not mysoginists or racists, but they can't easily go away from that type of jokes because they grew up with it and used it for so many years.

I love every type of humor so I wouldn't have a problem working for someone like that (I am an American Dad fan, so you can get an idea about me) but I understand that some people can be offended and they need to be respected.

I think Sarver needs to adjust to these current days and be more sensitive about those jokes (and overall language) understanding that times has changed for good. The punishment basically says that, so I agree with the league's decision.

Just my two cents about it.
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Post#451 » by Frank Lee » Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:58 pm


Pretty sure anyone of us would be fired and charged with a crime if we whipped our genitals out in a work setting. That has nothing to do with political correctness


Pretty sure he was getting a physical or something related to that… he didn’t Louie CK anyone… and it was a dude.. not that that matters, though it’s a whole different narrative if he was a she.

This is a slippery slope discussion. I’m someone who grew up hearing the N word on TV… Sanford and Son, the Jeffersons, SNL (one funny skit with Richard Prior). It’s still ingrained in society, music, culture. Back to Louie, who in his stand up observed ‘when you say the ‘N word’, you are making me say it in my mind.’

Just be glad this is kind of over with, though the internal workings of the ownership group are still a ? Mark.
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Post#452 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:27 pm

What's done is done for now TENTATIVELY it seems. But given today's current social climate on things and the apparent broad backlash we're seeing, I expect that this is far from over. Aside from the centralized concerns of the situation, I have been wondering about the broader longterm optics involved towards our franchise from the findings and corresponding disciplinary response. For me at least, I've moved past the legality issues and social implications of the outcome, as those will assuredly take care of themselves over time karmically.

What I'm focusing on instead aside from the immediate obvious is:

- Who's going to be our interim?
( Could there be a possible correlation to the hiring of Malhotra and Cato for that role).

- How does this affect our short term and long term ( upon his return) outlook at legitimately being a free agent destination and/ or attracting high caliber or star level players to our franchise via free agency or even in trades?

- Have these findings and the minimized response of him possibly severely tarnished the image equity we've been working so hard to achieve in our culture change strategy? ( I personally believe that an internal vote promoted by Jahm Najafi and others in the legacy ownership group results in a quiet sale of his shares and his inevitable removal during or shortly after his suspension).

- How will these findings affect our franchises' relationship/ interests of the sponsors? Will we likely lose sponsors that won't want to be associated with the current image of our ownership from a business optics standpoint?

- will there be a resulting greater possibility of chemistry issues internally, not so much from Jones or Monty as they seem fairly stable and measured situationally. But more in the premise of core players/ supporting rotation players asking out? Will there be friction between players/ front office personnel that might inevitably trickle down and create issues amongst the players/ coaching staff, etc. Could playing for ownership ( Saver) upon these findings get in player's heads and become or already be a legitimate distraction??

- what effect does this have fiscally on the outcome/ determination of imminent contractual obligations ( Johnson's extension), Contractual signings in free agency, trade deadline and early offseason moves)? I know that 10 million doesn't seem like much for an NBA owner, But given Savers' parsimonious nature, could this cause him to go further into cost cutting mode somewhat and possibly limit Jones's percieved autonomy in 23' free agency or possibly in having to offload assets (draft picks) in trades to cut more cost as a result of the 10 million fine. Would Saver limit our options/ flexibility as a veiled retaliation for the backlash against him??

- Will this force us to finally expand our strategy to legitimately utilize the draft as a viable means of adding talent in response to the potential image/ culture optics regression that would likely have many players around the league find themselves unwilling to consider playing for/ sign with this franchise under Savers' ownership??
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Post#453 » by phnart » Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:28 pm

I have been wrestling with my thoughts about this all night and I've come to the conclusion that what I am most pissed off about is that Sarver is still going to be making basketball decisions for the Suns. He's a A-hole, sure. He's privileged and probably thinks he is way funnier than he is and knows he can get away with being a prick. I've known lots of people with a lot of money who acted the same way and a lot of other people with a lot of money who still understand that respect is the building block for relationships.

Sarver sucks. We get it. Suns fans have known this for his entire tenure as owner and I think we hoped he would be forced out. The NBA is acting, though, like those parents who we all know who don't really ever discipline their six year old. We stop inviting those people over for bbqs and pool parties, eventually, but as Suns fans, our only recourse is to either find a new team or stop giving him money. Voting with our wallets is the only way our voices will be heard and that's a small voice, at that. I'm still going to root for the Suns, but seriously, eff that guy even more than the effing I offered him last week. Now his a-holeness is confirmed.


I also don't expect any of the Suns core to come out against him. The NBPA is not going to do much and he's going to be back in a year full of the same **** as before.

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Post#454 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:08 pm

Im not to sit here an adjudicate the correct punishment. I'll just say I'm personally disappointed that he wasn't run out of the league.

It's a sad and bad day for the Suns organization. Everyone already knew Sarver sucks but this lays out the **** in detail and by the looks of it he's not going anywhere. This black cloud will hang over the franchise until he's gone. It's a bad deal that will continue to haunt them.

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Post#455 » by starbosa10 » Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:20 pm

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Pretty sure anyone of us would be fired and charged with a crime if we whipped our genitals out in a work setting. That has nothing to do with political correctness


Pretty sure he was getting a physical or something related to that… he didn’t Louie CK anyone… and it was a dude.. not that that matters, though it’s a whole different narrative if he was a she.

This is a slippery slope discussion. I’m someone who grew up hearing the N word on TV… Sanford and Son, the Jeffersons, SNL (one funny skit with Richard Prior). It’s still ingrained in society, music, culture. Back to Louie, who in his stand up observed ‘when you say the ‘N word’, you are making me say it in my mind.’

Just be glad this is kind of over with, though the internal workings of the ownership group are still a ? Mark.


The fitness check was not a physical that required him to get his junk out but he did it anyway.
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Post#456 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:41 pm

Fining bobbert 10m is like fining me a dollar. Big deal. Worst case scenario for all unless he caves to pressure to sell. Makes everyone looks bad and hurts FA destination outlook.
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Post#457 » by starbosa10 » Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:19 pm

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Post#458 » by HootieRules » Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:47 pm

Frank Lee wrote:Jeez y’all… it’s not like the punishment doesn’t fit the crime. Crazy some think he should be forced to sell his business because of politically incorrect and rube like behavior. He didn’t hurt anybody. And what he did doesn’t sound too heinous or malicious. Just being a rich turd boss. Well, he did go from goat pranking to a depantsing… :eyebrows: at least he has a sense of humor…

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He hurt a lot of people. And anyone still defending this clown in even the slightest of passive ways after all of these years needs to look in the mirror and reevaluate how they treat other people with respect and compassion and figure it out.
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Post#459 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:04 pm

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So basically the league is hoping to shame him into selling vs actually going to court to force him out. This is likely to be a f-ing mess. Shaming only works on normal humans who feel that emotion, I don't think that applies to this asshat. Hell just dig in his heels and ruin the franchise.

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Post#460 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:15 pm

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Of course, that first tweet is obviously Silver interpreting Sarver's statement that he was unaccepting of and undeserving of the disciplinary response he received to be accepting full accountability and showing full remorse for his repeated indefensible actions (as Silver himself stated). So yeah! Not sure how any remotely coherent or responsible league official could deem Savers' statements as being either ACCOUNTABLE OR OBVIOUSLY TOTALLY REMORSEFUL!!! But hey, I understand the politics of insulating the powerful/ elites as it's a business overall and they don't want to set risky precedence or anything that might affect their profits. Especially IF the owners band together to shield each other from accountability that the rest of us peons are subject to. Definitely a black mark on Silvers' record here. :nod:
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