2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part V

[Saberestar]

Lets see how we do for the rest of this stretch. We just finally beat a good team at home, but had to shoot over 45% from 3 and get 42, 8 and 6 from KD. We've beaten 4 good teams in our last 53 games, all at home except for one at GS before they had Butler and with Draymond Green out.

If we can keep winning, and can show we can beat good teams on the road, I'll believe we really can compete with the good teams with this group, but the Cavs were already on a 3 game losing streak so they hadn't been playing well coming in, have been on the road, and were coming off a b2b 2 days earlier.

I like seeing the young guys play, and it gives me more hope for the future, especially if we keep Book, or even if we don't, because if we can add some other young guys and picks, we could perhaps rebuild a little quicker than I figured we would if we start a rebuild. I expect us to keep Book though, at least for one more year.

Well, if that happens then you will not believe in them, you will KNOW that they can compete with the good teams.

I think there are good reasons to believe in this new group already. 4W-1L in the last five games. The rotation is different and we are playing way better on both sides.

Before the game against the Cavs all the fans were saying that the last few losses would make the Cavs to play even harder @ Phoenix and they were fully healthy...we won and then narrative changes and we are talking about them having a back-to back two days earlier as an excuse to belittle our W.

And what about the W against the Bulls? Super easy opponent for some people here (even with Giddey coming back for the game) that didn't deserve any high praise...but the Bulls won @ Sacramento and @ Lakers in their next two games, so there is that.

[sunsbg]

Nobody denies the team plays better, but they played better at end of last season and then got humiliated by the Wolves. Gillespie, Dunn, Oso - all inexperienced and have their flows. To expect this team beats OKC in a playoff series is silly, so just enjoy every win.

[KdoubleDees23]

Suns should get Walter Clayton Jr !!!!

[Puff]

Nobody denies the team plays better, but they played better at end of last season and then got humiliated by the Wolves. Gillespie, Dunn, Oso - all inexperienced and have their flows. To expect this team beats OKC in a playoff series is silly, so just enjoy every win.

I do not think that anyone is expecting our team to even get a chance to play OKC let alone beat them. Just enjoy the ride. The exciting thing is that we might be seeing that rebounds and defense matters. This has not been the case with this franchise. If it is coming from Bud and they are finally listening, I will take back my criticism.

I see our future potentially better than some think. It certainly could be a mirage but at least I have hope. Our starting lineup had only one guy over 30 and that was KD. He actually played like he was under 30. We basically have two all NBA/Olympic players in our starting lineup. We have the 14th pick in the June draft at this point, which surprised me, that could add another youngster in the off season. I really cannot see that it is wise to trade Booker or KD unless we get a player or players that are capable of being an all NBA player. You need that type of talent to win a championship. If we do trade them, I will still support the team. Hopefully we get back equal or better talent.

No matter what we do, if we cannot move Beal and or Allen this off season, we will be limited for the next two years of watching Beal in street clothes, and the next 3 years for Allen sitting next to him. That is if he can even make it to a game. Those are the two priorities that have to be addressed. The thought of having to watch Beal with this team after we trade both Book and KD makes me want to vomit.

Go Suns

[Slim Charless]

Nobody denies the team plays better, but they played better at end of last season and then got humiliated by the Wolves. Gillespie, Dunn, Oso - all inexperienced and have their flows. To expect this team beats OKC in a playoff series is silly, so just enjoy every win.

I do not think that anyone is expecting our team to even get a chance to play OKC let alone beat them. Just enjoy the ride. The exciting thing is that we might be seeing that rebounds and defense matters. This has not been the case with this franchise. If it is coming from Bud and they are finally listening, I will take back my criticism.

I see our future potentially better than some think. It certainly could be a mirage but at least I have hope. Our starting lineup had only one guy over 30 and that was KD. He actually played like he was under 30. We basically have two all NBA/Olympic players in our starting lineup. We have the 14th pick in the June draft at this point, which surprised me, that could add another youngster in the off season. I really cannot see that it is wise to trade Booker or KD unless we get a player or players that are capable of being an all NBA player. You need that type of talent to win a championship. If we do trade them, I will still support the team. Hopefully we get back equal or better talent.

No matter what we do, if we cannot move Beal and or Allen this off season, we will be limited for the next two years of watching Beal in street clothes, and the next 3 years for Allen sitting next to him. That is if he can even make it to a game. Those are the two priorities that have to be addressed. The thought of having to watch Beal with this team after we trade both Book and KD makes me want to vomit.

Go Suns

We don't have the 14th pick-Houston does as they own our picks. We have Cleveland's pick, somewhere around 30. Double check your information and your posts before you make them next time. Please and thank you.

As for the rest, I see no situation where Durant is still on the team come Oct.

[Slim Charless]

I am happy we are winning again. Bud is a good coach and he seems to have finally seen his mistakes in not playing Dunn and Oso. The players also seem to be playing hard. Finally.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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So who should most likely get waived so we can add Gillespie to our play-in roster? And would he bee converted to a standard contract for this to happen?

Waive TyTy Washington who so far only has one thing is youth and quickness and not much else to his game or waive D.Lee who has not really looked great in any of his games so far.

TyTy is on a two-way also so waiving him wouldnt help.

Damion Lee??

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[dremill24]

Waive TyTy Washington who so far only has one thing is youth and quickness and not much else to his game or waive D.Lee who has not really looked great in any of his games so far.

TyTy is on a two-way also so waiving him wouldnt help.

Damion Lee??

That would do the trick if he was the choice

[Puff]

Nobody denies the team plays better, but they played better at end of last season and then got humiliated by the Wolves. Gillespie, Dunn, Oso - all inexperienced and have their flows. To expect this team beats OKC in a playoff series is silly, so just enjoy every win.

I do not think that anyone is expecting our team to even get a chance to play OKC let alone beat them. Just enjoy the ride. The exciting thing is that we might be seeing that rebounds and defense matters. This has not been the case with this franchise. If it is coming from Bud and they are finally listening, I will take back my criticism.

I see our future potentially better than some think. It certainly could be a mirage but at least I have hope. Our starting lineup had only one guy over 30 and that was KD. He actually played like he was under 30. We basically have two all NBA/Olympic players in our starting lineup. We have the 14th pick in the June draft at this point, which surprised me, that could add another youngster in the off season. I really cannot see that it is wise to trade Booker or KD unless we get a player or players that are capable of being an all NBA player. You need that type of talent to win a championship. If we do trade them, I will still support the team. Hopefully we get back equal or better talent.

No matter what we do, if we cannot move Beal and or Allen this off season, we will be limited for the next two years of watching Beal in street clothes, and the next 3 years for Allen sitting next to him. That is if he can even make it to a game. Those are the two priorities that have to be addressed. The thought of having to watch Beal with this team after we trade both Book and KD makes me want to vomit.

Go Suns

We don't have the 14th pick-Houston does as they own our picks. We have Cleveland's pick, somewhere around 30. Double check your information and your posts before you make them next time. Please and thank you.

As for the rest, I see no situation where Durant is still on the team come Oct.

My bad, I just looked at draft.net and they had us at 14. Made me happy but I was wrong for not checking. Yeah we are somewhere around 30.

I am not so sure as many that KD is gone. KD is Ishbia's baby. It could be the right decision if we are able to obtain a star in return along with draft capital. But Marr will be involved in that decision. What will he decide?

I know folks have talked about Beal going back to Washington. Beal for Middleton and Smart? Gives Cooper Flag possibly good supporting cast to begin his career. Gives our youngsters a couple of vets that could compliment what we need. Smart could really up our intensity level when on the court. They also could help compliment a return of KD if Matt decides to keep him.

If that does happen and we do not extend KD, we would have a butt load of money to go out and obtain a legit star in free agency the summer of 2026. KD, Middleton and Smart would expire. It is going to be an interesting summer.

This year could be interesting if we happen to beat the Bucks and Celtics this week.

Go Suns

[bwgood77]

Lets see how we do for the rest of this stretch. We just finally beat a good team at home, but had to shoot over 45% from 3 and get 42, 8 and 6 from KD. We've beaten 4 good teams in our last 53 games, all at home except for one at GS before they had Butler and with Draymond Green out.

If we can keep winning, and can show we can beat good teams on the road, I'll believe we really can compete with the good teams with this group, but the Cavs were already on a 3 game losing streak so they hadn't been playing well coming in, have been on the road, and were coming off a b2b 2 days earlier.

I like seeing the young guys play, and it gives me more hope for the future, especially if we keep Book, or even if we don't, because if we can add some other young guys and picks, we could perhaps rebuild a little quicker than I figured we would if we start a rebuild. I expect us to keep Book though, at least for one more year.

Well, if that happens then you will not believe in them, you will KNOW that they can compete with the good teams.

I think there are good reasons to believe in this new group already. 4W-1L in the last five games. The rotation is different and we are playing way better on both sides.

Before the game against the Cavs all the fans were saying that the last few losses would make the Cavs to play even harder @ Phoenix and they were fully healthy...we won and then narrative changes and we are talking about them having a back-to back two days earlier as an excuse to belittle our W.

And what about the W against the Bulls? Super easy opponent for some people here (even with Giddey coming back for the game) that didn't deserve any high praise...but the Bulls won @ Sacramento and @ Lakers in their next two games, so there is that.

It was nice to beat the Bulls, but it was pretty close, and they are 31-40 and got rid of their best player. I wouldn't say it's impressive. I'd say it's one I expect we should win with our talent.

[bwgood77]

I do not think that anyone is expecting our team to even get a chance to play OKC let alone beat them. Just enjoy the ride. The exciting thing is that we might be seeing that rebounds and defense matters. This has not been the case with this franchise. If it is coming from Bud and they are finally listening, I will take back my criticism.

I see our future potentially better than some think. It certainly could be a mirage but at least I have hope. Our starting lineup had only one guy over 30 and that was KD. He actually played like he was under 30. We basically have two all NBA/Olympic players in our starting lineup. We have the 14th pick in the June draft at this point, which surprised me, that could add another youngster in the off season. I really cannot see that it is wise to trade Booker or KD unless we get a player or players that are capable of being an all NBA player. You need that type of talent to win a championship. If we do trade them, I will still support the team. Hopefully we get back equal or better talent.

No matter what we do, if we cannot move Beal and or Allen this off season, we will be limited for the next two years of watching Beal in street clothes, and the next 3 years for Allen sitting next to him. That is if he can even make it to a game. Those are the two priorities that have to be addressed. The thought of having to watch Beal with this team after we trade both Book and KD makes me want to vomit.

Go Suns

We don't have the 14th pick-Houston does as they own our picks. We have Cleveland's pick, somewhere around 30. Double check your information and your posts before you make them next time. Please and thank you.

As for the rest, I see no situation where Durant is still on the team come Oct.

My bad, I just looked at draft.net and they had us at 14. Made me happy but I was wrong for not checking. Yeah we are somewhere around 30.

I am not so sure as many that KD is gone. KD is Ishbia's baby. It could be the right decision if we are able to obtain a star in return along with draft capital. But Marr will be involved in that decision. What will he decide?

I know folks have talked about Beal going back to Washington. Beal for Middleton and Smart? Gives Cooper Flag possibly good supporting cast to begin his career. Gives our youngsters a couple of vets that could compliment what we need. Smart could really up our intensity level when on the court. They also could help compliment a return of KD if Matt decides to keep him.

If that does happen and we do not extend KD, we would have a butt load of money to go out and obtain a legit star in free agency the summer of 2026. KD, Middleton and Smart would expire. It is going to be an interesting summer.

This year could be interesting if we happen to beat the Bucks and Celtics this week.

Go Suns

This is a good place to see who has who's picks on their mock draft page. https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

[sunsbum]

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what is this meme? Espo puts on his glasses and is still blind? I don’t get it.

[garrick]

Lets see how we do for the rest of this stretch. We just finally beat a good team at home, but had to shoot over 45% from 3 and get 42, 8 and 6 from KD. We've beaten 4 good teams in our last 53 games, all at home except for one at GS before they had Butler and with Draymond Green out.

If we can keep winning, and can show we can beat good teams on the road, I'll believe we really can compete with the good teams with this group, but the Cavs were already on a 3 game losing streak so they hadn't been playing well coming in, have been on the road, and were coming off a b2b 2 days earlier.

I like seeing the young guys play, and it gives me more hope for the future, especially if we keep Book, or even if we don't, because if we can add some other young guys and picks, we could perhaps rebuild a little quicker than I figured we would if we start a rebuild. I expect us to keep Book though, at least for one more year.

Well, if that happens then you will not believe in them, you will KNOW that they can compete with the good teams.

I think there are good reasons to believe in this new group already. 4W-1L in the last five games. The rotation is different and we are playing way better on both sides.

Before the game against the Cavs all the fans were saying that the last few losses would make the Cavs to play even harder @ Phoenix and they were fully healthy...we won and then narrative changes and we are talking about them having a back-to back two days earlier as an excuse to belittle our W.

And what about the W against the Bulls? Super easy opponent for some people here (even with Giddey coming back for the game) that didn't deserve any high praise...but the Bulls won @ Sacramento and @ Lakers in their next two games, so there is that.

It was nice to beat the Bulls, but it was pretty close, and they are 31-40 and got rid of their best player. I wouldn't say it's impressive. I'd say it's one I expect we should win with our talent.

Lots of good teams in this final stretch are going to be resting their best players and trying to avoid injuries so the wins are less impressive but this team has proven they will still lose to the B team and lost a ton of games against bad teams already.

We are still at best a first round exit so there's not too much to be excited for but at least the games during this winning streak have been entertaining to watch with the young players contributing. If we manage to make the playoffs OKC will wipe the floor with us but I don't think it will be any worse than the 1st round sweep by the Wolves last season.

[Fo-Real]

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NOPE!

[Fo-Real]

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So who should most likely get waived so we can add Gillespie to our play-in roster? And would he bee converted to a standard contract for this to happen?

LEE MAN!!!

[Saberestar]

[Bogyo]

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NOPE!

First off, that will likely be the best offer out there. Second - I would do pretty much anything to get him off this team.
Never cared for him that much, and by now I m just plain disgusted. In 30+ years of fandom this is the first time I don't even check the box scores and contribute about 0 to Suns forums. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[Saberestar]

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NOPE!

First off, that will likely be the best offer out there. Second - I would do pretty much anything to get him off this team.
Never cared for him that much, and by now I m just plain disgusted. In 30+ years of fandom this is the first time I don't even check the box scores and contribute about 0 to Suns forums. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I don't understand why, the guy is playing at a ridiculous high level. He has been named player of the week now.

It's a team sport so his impact is limited. We are 34-37 for a variety of reasons but not because he's not playing at a great level.

[BobbieL]

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So who should most likely get waived so we can add Gillespie to our play-in roster? And would he bee converted to a standard contract for this to happen?

LEE MAN!!!

Has to be Lee. Made like one shot the first game he played for the Suns and that was like October of 2023, maybe 2022.