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2021 Playoff and Offseason Speculation - the playoffs. PLAYOFFS????

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Post#4421 » by pj0tr » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:07 pm

matt131 wrote:
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CP3 knows we're going to the finals


Its a smart move for him, given his injury history and the quick turnaround.

Booker may also pull out too, if they make the Finals and it goes long.
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Post#4422 » by Slim Charless » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:23 pm

pj0tr wrote:
matt131 wrote:
King4Day wrote:
Read on Twitter
CP3 knows we're going to the finals


Its a smart move for him, given his injury history and the quick turnaround.

Booker may also pull out too, if they make the Finals and it goes long.


I really don't want Book playing. I get it that players want to do it, but I wish he'd wait till the 2024 team if he wants to get his gold medal. That's only 3 yrs away-not too long of a wait.
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Post#4423 » by sunsbg » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:31 pm

Book wants to become two time champion in the span of a month. That would be great. Participating in a tournament where most teams have a great ball movement should be beneficial for his further development.
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Post#4424 » by King4Day » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:33 pm

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matt131 wrote:CP3 knows we're going to the finals


Its a smart move for him, given his injury history and the quick turnaround.

Booker may also pull out too, if they make the Finals and it goes long.


I really don't want Book playing. I get it that players want to do it, but I wish he'd wait till the 2024 team if he wants to get his gold medal. That's only 3 yrs away-not too long of a wait.


I think it's the perfect time. Stars will hopefully have a reason to envy Phoenix and he can tell them all the good things about the place.
And, win or lose the finals, a likely gold medal will look good on his resume and probably help his cause next year, and the coming years, for in season awards.
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Post#4425 » by Revived » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:34 pm

It never made any sense for CP3 to play. He’s already won it, he’s getting old as dirt and is playing deep into the playoffs as it is.

I’m surprised Kevin Durant is playing because of all the same reasons mentioned above.
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Post#4426 » by Slim Charless » Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:11 pm

King4Day wrote:
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pj0tr wrote:
Its a smart move for him, given his injury history and the quick turnaround.

Booker may also pull out too, if they make the Finals and it goes long.


I really don't want Book playing. I get it that players want to do it, but I wish he'd wait till the 2024 team if he wants to get his gold medal. That's only 3 yrs away-not too long of a wait.


I think it's the perfect time. Stars will hopefully have a reason to envy Phoenix and he can tell them all the good things about the place.
And, win or lose the finals, a likely gold medal will look good on his resume and probably help his cause next year, and the coming years, for in season awards.


Him recruiting is the only really good part about this. Still, if we make the final and he plays in Toyko, he'll be going almost an entire year straight through for BB. NBA season starts in Oct and olympics end late Aug I think. That gives him basically a month to rest. W/E it's his choice and I guess if this leads to Tatum or Zion playing in PHX in 3/4 years I guess it's worth it.
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Post#4427 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:19 pm

'Terrible Cities' really ESPN that's how you want to market the NBA?

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Post#4428 » by RunDogGun » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:21 pm

More fuel for our Suns!
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Post#4429 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:17 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:Phoenix Suns (@Suns) Tweeted:
“They’re fearless...Whatever is thrown at them, they’re attacking it."

Known as "The Twins", @mikal_bridges & Cam Johnson's off-the-court bond epitomizes the Suns’ chemistry that flows from the locker room to the court!

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Pretty cool!

It's amazing how similar players they are right now. When they came into the league they were quite different with Mikal being the 3 and D guy and Cam being the specialist shooter who had shaky D. Now both guys are good to great on defense, both are good shooters, both guys attack closeouts well now and both guys are solid cutters.

per100 they are really similar too:
Bridges: 20.4pts / 6.5rebs / 3.2ast / 1.6stl / 1.3blk
Cam: 19.7pts / 6.8rebs / 3.0ast / 1.2stl / 0.5blk
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Post#4430 » by Revived » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:19 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:'Terrible Cities' really ESPN that's how you want to market the NBA?

Read on Twitter


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Post this on the GB as a thread please I’m curious to see the reactions.
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Post#4431 » by Kyler Murray » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:12 am

Revived wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:'Terrible Cities' really ESPN that's how you want to market the NBA?

Read on Twitter


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Post this on the GB as a thread please I’m curious to see the reactions.


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Post#4432 » by AtheJ415 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:29 am

I think we're going to be players for some FAs people won't expect. We'll get some ring chasers or other vets on a discount.
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Post#4433 » by NapoleonII » Wed Jun 23, 2021 4:41 pm

AtheJ415 wrote:I think we're going to be players for some FAs people won't expect. We'll get some ring chasers or other vets on a discount.


I'm good actually.

**** all the doubters and those who waited too long to give us respect.

Keep it in-house.

We got hungry mouths to feed, anyways. Saric, Payne, Carter, Cam Johnson all need more minutes next year and can let CP3 and Book get some rest.

I'm fine bringing back Galloway or Nader.

And I wanna see what Jalen Smith does in the summer and brings next year.
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Post#4434 » by BobbieL » Wed Jun 23, 2021 4:59 pm

NapoleonII wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:I think we're going to be players for some FAs people won't expect. We'll get some ring chasers or other vets on a discount.


I'm good actually.

**** all the doubters and those who waited too long to give us respect.

Keep it in-house.

We got hungry mouths to feed, anyways. Saric, Payne, Carter, Cam Johnson all need more minutes next year and can let CP3 and Book get some rest.

I'm fine bringing back Galloway or Nader.

And I wanna see what Jalen Smith does in the summer and brings next year.



Of course , Chris Paul could be gone but hopefully he is back

I think Torrey Craig could be tough to keep
Cam Payne - will be interesting but is he really getting more from another team than the Suns

Nader, Kaminsky, Galloway - see what the market brings. But the Suns will have options in the veteran free agency space they haven't had in a long time
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Post#4435 » by NapoleonII » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:06 pm

Yeah the only I hope going forward in keeping our 1-10 guys together is a wink, wink deal with CP3.

We give him the long-term security he's looking for, but he takes a front-loaded or reduced contract.

If we win a ring, I think he gives us a discount AND says no to the Lakers clearing up room for him.

He finishes his career here contending. And then we give him an assistant coach or front office job.
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Post#4436 » by Slim Charless » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:25 pm

NapoleonII wrote:Yeah the only I hope going forward in keeping our 1-10 guys together is a wink, wink deal with CP3.

We give him the long-term security he's looking for, but he takes a front-loaded or reduced contract.

If we win a ring, I think he gives us a discount AND says no to the Lakers clearing up room for him.

He finishes his career here contending. And then we give him an assistant coach or front office job.


3/100 makes too much sense, along with a front office job when he's done.
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Post#4437 » by Adrao » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:29 pm

Let's imagine we win the ring. Wouid CP3 stay here?
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Post#4438 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:25 pm

Adrao wrote:Let's imagine we win the ring. Wouid CP3 stay here?


I think he stays here regardless. He picks up his $45 million option or we give him a longer contract. We c ould hope he keeps his cap hold and give him a wink wink 2 year $55 million deal the following summer if we were thinking 3/$100.

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It could be declining like like 28.5 then 26.5 as Ayton and Bridges' contracts are going up.

This might help us stay under the cap or give us space for a MLE signing in the future. Otherwise if we did like 3/$100 this offseason it would be around $33.5 million a year...and the final year might be more like $31.5 million if it was decreasing with max raises/declines at 8%.
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Post#4439 » by Slim Charless » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:14 pm

Adrao wrote:Let's imagine we win the ring. Wouid CP3 stay here?


Let's reverse that question.

We win a chip. Why and for what situation do you think is better for him than us? I'm truly curious as to why he would leave AFTER we win the title-in his first year no less.

Floor is yours.
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Post#4440 » by Saberestar » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:24 pm

Slim Charless wrote:
Adrao wrote:Let's imagine we win the ring. Wouid CP3 stay here?


Let's reverse that question.

We win a chip. Why and for what situation do you think is better for him than us? I'm truly curious as to why he would leave AFTER we win the title-in his first year no less.

Floor is yours.

The way I see it...

If we win the chip this season I hope that James Jones will bring back EXACTLY the same team for next season.

Not a tough thing to do because we have a lot of players under contract and we would just need to extend CP3 and sign Cam Payne to a long term contract.

Craig (BAE) and Moore, Galloway, Nader and Kaminsky ( all on minimum one year deals) are easy to bring back because they are not expensive players at all.

Then we can trade #29 for an early 2nd round pick (around #35) and a future 2n round pick.

With #35 we can sign on a two-way deal a rookie as a 17th player on our roster.

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