Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons

[Years90Suns]

I do not know if you guys already talked about this, but yesterday Demarcus Cousins said that this year he is happier with his team's point guards, as the ball moves around more, becausae no one dribbles for 20 seconds.
This is a clear reference to IT.
I am a little bit afraid that we have three excellent PGs, but they have a clear tendency to dribble too much, while our system is better when the ball goes from guy to guy.
On the other hand, neither Green, nor Tuckers or the Twins are great ball handlers (not even average) to know what to do with the ball other than shoot or pass it.

[NTB]

I do not know if you guys already talked about this, but yesterday Demarcus Cousins said that this year he is happier with his team's point guards, as the ball moves around more, becausae no one dribbles for 20 seconds.
This is a clear reference to IT.
I am a little bit afraid that we have three excellent PGs, but they have a clear tendency to dribble too much, while our system is better when the ball goes from guy to guy.
On the other hand, neither Green, nor Tuckers or the Twins are great ball handlers (not even average) to know what to do with the ball other than shoot or pass it.

We do not pass the ball guy to guy like Spurs. Bledsoe pick and rolls to create something, if it doesn't work he gives it to Dragic and then Dragic pick and rolls and finds something. So our system is based on pick and rolls and isolations. Isaiah can do both of it. P&R all the time and confuse the opponent.

[NaturalBuns]

I do not know if you guys already talked about this, but yesterday Demarcus Cousins said that this year he is happier with his team's point guards, as the ball moves around more, becausae no one dribbles for 20 seconds.
This is a clear reference to IT.
I am a little bit afraid that we have three excellent PGs, but they have a clear tendency to dribble too much, while our system is better when the ball goes from guy to guy.
On the other hand, neither Green, nor Tuckers or the Twins are great ball handlers (not even average) to know what to do with the ball other than shoot or pass it.

Well I could of told you that last year.
Didn't the suns have one of the leagues worst assist ratio?

This system is meant for the guards to score.
It's not like Plumlee,Len,Tucker are worth dishing off to consistently anyway haha.
Even green is streaky

[phrazbit]

Lol! I am pretty sure I watched my boy Mike Nash get posterized by Richard Jefferson in that same gym circa 1997ish. RichJef was a monster at Moon Valley. Missed getting my own poster by one game as my school lost in the quarter finals.

Ha! Nice. I saw him play in high school too, I was a freshman attending a rival to Moon Valley. It seemed like he almost felt guilty with how little effort it took him to utterly embarrass everyone who guarded him. He probably had like 8 dunks in each game I saw him play. As a family of Wildcat fans, when I found out he was attending UofA I think one of my testicles dropped.

[Revived]

Is that Blazers fan still barking out rubbish on GD in the Bledsoe thread?

**EDITED BY KERRSED

[jredsaz]

Lol! I am pretty sure I watched my boy Mike Nash get posterized by Richard Jefferson in that same gym circa 1997ish. RichJef was a monster at Moon Valley. Missed getting my own poster by one game as my school lost in the quarter finals.

Ha! Nice. I saw him play in high school too, I was a freshman attending a rival to Moon Valley. It seemed like he almost felt guilty with how little effort it took him to utterly embarrass everyone who guarded him. He probably had like 8 dunks in each game I saw him play. As a family of Wildcat fans, when I found out he was attending UofA I think one of my testicles dropped.

Summer league at NAU during that era was priceless. I was once in a "big man camp" (mind you I am only 6'2") coached by Ben Howland and along side Channing Frye. Howland kept yelling at my small-shcool-no-hops-white-ass to shoot my hook shot "down at the rim". Lol!

[lilfishi22]

Is that Blazers fan still barking out rubbish on GD in the Bledsoe thread?

I got bored of it so I left it

[TASTIC]

Anyone have any interest in Kyle O'Quinn?

I like that he's a legit physical presence down-low and he's a very good shot-blocker and a capable passer for a big guy.

I guess ORL want him round as insurance for Vucevic, but I'd love him on the Suns - even potentially as a starter eventually.

When he got mins, he produced. In the 11 games he played at least 24mins in last year, he averaged 10.3pts 8.5reb 1.2asst 1.2stl 2.0blk and 50%FG - that's really not bad for a young C.

[deb]

You are getting way ahead of yourself. What makes you think Zoran is NBA ready? He is not a good outside shooter, he has improved but he is still pretty streaky. Not to mention the NBA 3 point line is further out I believe. Honestly Zoran will probably need some time to transition and acculmate to the league, just like Goran did. No NBA rookie is going to play smart defense right out of the gates. Don't forget that Zoran is not that athletic and may have trouble keeping up with scoring guards, so I think its a stretch to say he fits a role over Archie, when he hasn't played a single minute in the NBA yet.

He already is a much better outside shooter than Goodwin. Goran was barely 22 when he signed. I imagine Zoran at 25 is more experienced and mentally more NBA ready than Gogi was plus he has Gogi to help him adjust. I think Zoki right now is a much more finished product than Warren, Ennis or Goodwin. Whether he has the ability to actually be relevant in the NBA remains to be seen though.

[JJ13]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Isaiah_Thomas/status/517503415211929600[/tweet]

Of course he has to respond...

IT deleted the tweet at Boogie haha

[aIvin adams]

Anyone have any interest in Kyle O'Quinn?

I like that he's a legit physical presence down-low and he's a very good shot-blocker and a capable passer for a big guy.

I guess ORL want him round as insurance for Vucevic, but I'd love him on the Suns - even potentially as a starter eventually.

When he got mins, he produced. In the 11 games he played at least 24mins in last year, he averaged 10.3pts 8.5reb 1.2asst 1.2stl 2.0blk and 50%FG - that's really not bad for a young C.

definitely i like him. his ceiling is much lower than Alex Len's, but if he were on this team today i think he might be a starter. i'd have to watch him more before i formed an opinion on O'Quinn v Plumlee.

[JTrain]

What did it say?

[carey]

What did it say?

I'm curious as well if anyone has a screenshot.

[kennydorglas]

Isaiah Thomas DELETED · 51 min Há 51 minutos
@boogiecousins haha I feel u. Say that then!

[SideSwipe]

Anyone have any interest in Kyle O'Quinn?

I like that he's a legit physical presence down-low and he's a very good shot-blocker and a capable passer for a big guy.

I guess ORL want him round as insurance for Vucevic, but I'd love him on the Suns - even potentially as a starter eventually.

When he got mins, he produced. In the 11 games he played at least 24mins in last year, he averaged 10.3pts 8.5reb 1.2asst 1.2stl 2.0blk and 50%FG - that's really not bad for a young C.

Yes, I had posted about him a few pages back in this thread, on the Tyler Ennis needs a new home thread in T&T section and created my own trade based on Ennis and Randolph. The consensus feedback seemed to be that O'quinn was good insurance and cheap. They thought the value was good or even too good maybe. Overall it seemed like there could be some room to get a deal done.

[Saberestar]

Isaiah is a good player,but he has to calm down a little bit about his ego.Is not cool to speak about other players like Irving or Darren Collison,and comparing them to him.And is childish to complain in publicy about his ratings in a video game like 2K15.
Well,hopefully he will play great or at least we have a great asset to trade for a big.

[Kerrsed]

I doubt anyone remembers this, but i was the one guy on the board that wanted us to target OQuinn in the draft. He is a beast of a man. With that being said, i dont think we really need him now.

The MoBro's will be holding down the PF spot along with Toliver. The thing that all three of them have in common is that they can all help spread the floor with their 3 point shot. OQuinn is an in-the-paint bruiser. He really doesnt have a jumper or much less any offense outside 4-5 feet away from the rim.

Keep Ennis and just wait. I have a feeling that Toronto will come calling sooner or later.

[RunDogGun]

Anyone have any interest in Kyle O'Quinn?

I like that he's a legit physical presence down-low and he's a very good shot-blocker and a capable passer for a big guy.

I guess ORL want him round as insurance for Vucevic, but I'd love him on the Suns - even potentially as a starter eventually.

When he got mins, he produced. In the 11 games he played at least 24mins in last year, he averaged 10.3pts 8.5reb 1.2asst 1.2stl 2.0blk and 50%FG - that's really not bad for a young C.

Both Kerrsed and I have been fans of Kyle, and wanted to draft him. And we could have, if we had made the trade that Dallas did with Cleveland.

[RunDogGun]

I doubt anyone remembers this, but i was the one guy on the board that wanted us to target OQuinn in the draft. He is a beast of a man. With that being said, i dont think we really need him now.

The MoBro's will be holding down the PF spot along with Toliver. The thing that all three of them have in common is that they can all help spread the floor with their 3 point shot. OQuinn is an in-the-paint bruiser. He really doesnt have a jumper or much less any offense outside 4-5 feet away from the rim.

Keep Ennis and just wait. I have a feeling that Toronto will come calling sooner or later.

One? I was right there with you the whole time. I wouldn't mind trading Kyle for Randolph and possibly a second rounder. I would still like to use Kyle as a five.

[Calvin Klein]

Did he seriously complain about a video game rating??