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Post#461 » by Revived » Sun May 31, 2015 6:34 am

Hornacek was asked about the Iowa State job during a radio appearance on Thursday.

“I can’t comment on that,” Hornacek said. “I’m the coach of the Suns. It’s an interesting coaching carousel that goes on in the league and even down to the college level.

If those things ever come about, and the timing was right, stuff like that, yes, but as far as I know I’m the coach of the Suns.”

Hornacek’s contract with the Suns is reportedly for less than $2 million a year, a bit less than the $2.2 Hoiberg made last season and the average compensation of $2.6 million per year over the life of his contract.

“It’s sometimes surprising to see how much the college coaches are making, even the assistant level,” Hornacek said. “I’ve seen some of those assistant coaches’ salaries and I’m like, ‘Holy crap, I think that’s more than probably some of our assistants make.’

Sounds like he wouldn't mind leaving the Suns and coaching his alma mater.

Come on Sarver, free Hornacek!
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Re: Is Hornacek the problem? 

Post#462 » by Saberestar » Sun May 31, 2015 11:50 am

Is Jeff Hornacek the mystery coach on the hot seat?

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Re: Is Hornacek the problem? 

Post#463 » by BobbieL » Sun May 31, 2015 2:51 pm

I think Thibs is a better coach than Hornacek so for that reason, if Sarver is wiling topay off Jeff and pay Thibs get him.

Granted, for either coach, roster needs to be changed.
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Re: Is Hornacek the problem? 

Post#464 » by ISUcyclones11 » Sun May 31, 2015 6:12 pm

Made an account just to view this thread. If you haven't read my username, I'm an Iowa State fan. Also passively a PHX fan (behind LAC). I made a prediction on cyclonefanatic.com that there would be a carousel between PHX (+Thibs -Horny), CHI (+Hoiberg, - Thibs), and ISU (+Horny, -Hoiberg).

We've been hearing the same crap from Hoiberg for a while about "still being the head coach." Just curious if you guys would be willing to fire Horny for Thibs.
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Post#465 » by Cutter » Sun May 31, 2015 7:40 pm

There is definitely a lot of buzz and speculation currently being generated about Hornacek to Iowa State. I guess I could see this happening , especially if money and a longer guaranteed contract is a factor for Jeff. I don't consider being a college coach as prestigious as a pro coach, but Hornacek may not care one way or another.
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Post#466 » by RunDogGun » Sun May 31, 2015 9:03 pm

Jeff said he is committed to the Suns, and was hired to bring the Suns back to relevance. To me, it sounds like he is planing on staying. Now if we let him go, that's another thing, but with the turnover of players, and being runner up for COY in his first season, we will probably not fire him this season, nor should we.
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Re: Is Hornacek the problem? 

Post#467 » by RaisingArizona » Sun May 31, 2015 9:26 pm

ISUcyclones11 wrote:Made an account just to view this thread. If you haven't read my username, I'm an Iowa State fan. Also passively a PHX fan (behind LAC). I made a prediction on cyclonefanatic.com that there would be a carousel between PHX (+Thibs -Horny), CHI (+Hoiberg, - Thibs), and ISU (+Horny, -Hoiberg).

We've been hearing the same crap from Hoiberg for a while about "still being the head coach." Just curious if you guys would be willing to fire Horny for Thibs.


I doubt we'd fire him, but we might let him go to ISU if he really wants to. Our radio home of the Suns pointed out that we did the same kinda thing with Kerr and the Pringles Man in the past.
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Re: Is Hornacek the problem? 

Post#468 » by thamadkant » Sun May 31, 2015 9:47 pm

Hornacek won't or shouldnt be "fired".
But he can leave in his own accord, maybe a mutual separation.

The Iowa job might not be as prestigious, but it is more secure, it is less stress and its not as cut throat as the NBA, where expectations from FO and fans is high especially when the team is under achieving.. Plus in college the players aren't as "Diva-ish" as the pros.
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Post#469 » by Cutter » Sun May 31, 2015 11:50 pm

I can't imagine McD firing Hornacek right now. If he did, I would be really pissed, but I just don't see it happening. Now, if Jeff wants to go to Iowa State for more money, or a longer guaranteed contract or both, I can see the Suns not matching the Iowa State offer and letting Hornack walk. Hornacek publicly said he wants to continue to be the Suns coach, and I believe him. However, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he received an offer that would change his mind.

75% likelihood he remains Suns coach for the coming season.
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Post#470 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Jun 1, 2015 12:29 am

BobbieL wrote:I am not sure if Hornacek is the problem but I don't like how he handled Marcus yelling at him? But maybe that's the team chemistry issue that Ryan McD needs to fix (it starts with finding a buyer for the Morri and possibly Tucker).

Gentry is being hired by the Pelicans - good hire, OKC should have hired him

Hoiberg is going to the Bulls - hmm

Where is Thibs going? I wish Hornacek wanted to go to Iowa State as I like Thibs.

He's definitely part of the problem when guys like Marcus acts out of line with little to no repercussion. It's also a personnel problem too. When you have too many young guys with little veteran leadership, they can start acting out.
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Post#471 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Jun 1, 2015 12:37 am

I don't see why McD would pull the trigger on firing Hornacek. It would seem incredibly short-sighted considering he's been here just as long as Hornacek and he's been working the roster which affects Hornacek's ability to run a successful team . To fire Hornacek because coach hasn't done a well enough job when the roster he's put together is barely average would seem almost hypocritical.

I feel Hornacek and McD are on the same page from day one and he's going to give Hornacek the benefit of the doubt considering the job he did in his first season and coming runners up to COY.
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Re: Is Hornacek the problem? 

Post#472 » by kennydorglas » Mon Jun 1, 2015 3:47 am

1UPZ wrote:Hornacek won't or shouldnt be "fired".
But he can leave in his own accord, maybe a mutual separation.

The Iowa job might not be as prestigious, but it is more secure, it is less stress and its not as cut throat as the NBA, where expectations from FO and fans is high especially when the team is under achieving.. Plus in college the players aren't as "Diva-ish" as the pros.


^ pretty much this.
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Re: Is Hornacek the problem? 

Post#473 » by batsmasher » Mon Jun 1, 2015 4:12 am

The Thibs/McD Boston connection scares me. I don't think I want him. I certainly don't want Horny fired.. but I suppose I could handle a mutual parting.

At the same time, I wouldn't mind the Suns getting a new defensive look about them. Maybe Chicago's problems are less about Thibs and more about Forman. Their roster doesn't really have much youth on it so I suppose Thibs is only partially to blame on that front.
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Re: Is Hornacek the problem? 

Post#474 » by rottenbanana36 » Mon Jun 1, 2015 3:28 pm

I think Thibs here would make a ton of sense. He's a defensive coach and I don't think the Suns have been taking advantage of Bledsoe's ability to play the lanes. Combine that with Knight and his length we should be jumping passing lanes all day long. Chicago's roster is constructed terribly. They are incredibly dependent on Rose being healthy and Gasol not regressing/getting hurt. Rose showed flashes but for the most part was a shell of himself and Gasol got hurt. Thibs could make this team better purely by putting more defensive pressure on the ball and passing lanes. They have a center who can help make up for gambles at the rim but they don't seem to take those chances.
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Re: Is Hornacek the problem? 

Post#475 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Jun 2, 2015 12:01 am

rottenbanana36 wrote:I think Thibs here would make a ton of sense. He's a defensive coach and I don't think the Suns have been taking advantage of Bledsoe's ability to play the lanes. Combine that with Knight and his length we should be jumping passing lanes all day long. Chicago's roster is constructed terribly. They are incredibly dependent on Rose being healthy and Gasol not regressing/getting hurt. Rose showed flashes but for the most part was a shell of himself and Gasol got hurt. Thibs could make this team better purely by putting more defensive pressure on the ball and passing lanes. They have a center who can help make up for gambles at the rim but they don't seem to take those chances.

Our offense this past season was ugly but it'll be worse under Thibs.
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Post#476 » by kennydorglas » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:31 am

Hoiberg is the man in Chicago now.
Let's see what happens.
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Post#477 » by StarMaker » Tue Jun 2, 2015 7:43 am

Who is the best alternative if Hornacek recede from the head coach on his own? Mike Malone?
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Post#478 » by Saberestar » Tue Jun 2, 2015 10:23 pm

Jeff Hornacek is definitely not the mystery coach about to get fired @sheridanhoops The Suns have never discussed dismissing him.

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Post#479 » by saintEscaton » Wed Jun 3, 2015 6:04 pm

http://cyclonefanatic.com/basketball/mens/news/source-jeff-hornacek-declines-meeting-with-iowa-state/ Horny turned down the ISU interview and appears to have no interest in the job.
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Post#480 » by kennydorglas » Wed Jun 3, 2015 6:16 pm

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