2017 Trade & Free Agency Ideas & Discussion

[DirtyDez]

Going after Cousins next summer should be the plan if we keep Bledsoe.

Bledsoe
Booker
Warren/Tatum or JJ
Chriss
Cousins

Ulis
Jones
Dudley (expiring)
Bender
Chandler (expiring)
Williams

The bench could be dangerous if McD can hit on his picks the next two years.

[ATTL]

Ready to give bledsoe $30 million per year? We should trade him if we aren't committed to that. Trade before he suffers is bi-annual knee injury.

[Villalobos]

Are we really sure he'll get even close to that much? When was the last time a guy with bad knee injuries got that kind of contract? I mean non-HoFers, borderline all-stars. I'm blanking, I honestly don't know. And by the time he's a free agent the spending frenzy from the cap boom might have calmed down.

[BobbieL]

Does Cleveland take Knight for Shumpert?

Cleveland has zero, zero bench scoring . Knight might fill that role and be happy on winning team

Shumpert sucks though but only has two years left and his cheaper Probably have to throw in a contract - like Derrick William S&T to add to the deal to make math work

Or what about Tristan Thompson and Shumpert for Tyson and Knight - unless you can move Chandler for an expiring

The deal I would really like is if PJ wanted to sign with Cleveland -- Cleveland would say want Knight / Chandler - not sure if works in ESPN Trade Machine

Cleveland: Knight Chandler and Tucker
Toronto gets Shumpert and second rounder from Phoenix
Phoenix: Tristan

[WeekapaugGroove]

I hate to be the contrarian, but I disagree with this. I think Chandler was a great signing, for multiple reasons. One is the effect he has had in paving the way for the youngsters. He is there for chemistry first and foremost. He has delivered on that, despite the w/l record. He has also played great. Last year, not so much, but this year you can't touch his play. This year he was underpaid. Its hard to come up with a clearly better player that isn't either max or making significantly more that is better than him. Even with his degraded defense. Tyson will play harder once there is something to play for also, I don't think father time has caught up fully yet. He was playing some of his best basketball late in the year before he was shut down.

The next question is who would you have signed instead that would have had more impact? The Suns must hit the salary floor, or get close so someone is getting that money. The question is who? Evan Turner? Meyers Leonard? Al Jefferson? What other player would you have rather had at the price all things considered?

I was fine resigning brandon wright and liked some of the cheap options like ed davis. The salary floor thing didn't hit until this past summer and that offseason they actually unloaded salary to try to chase Aldridge. There are other ways they could have used the space like doing that deal the sixers did with Sacramento... had they done that the suns would be picking 3 this year and have the kings pick next year. Hell I hope they get creative this offseason and do something like that over making some dumb decision like giving milsap a bunch of money.

I'm all for having some leaders but I just wouldn't pay 50mil for it. Tyson was fine this year and still rebounds well but really did it matter?

Would Len be a better player right now had they just let him start? Who knows. But it certainly seemed to put him in a funk and I think hurt his confidence. Now thats on alex too; as a pro you need to handle adversity. But as an organization you should try to put guys you invested a high pick on the best opportunity to succeed and i don't think the suns did in this case.

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I liked Brandon Wright, but he did not bring what Chandler has brought. Ed Davis is definitely not the player or leader Chandler is. Not sure that's wise use of funds. Also, the salary floor has been a thing for years now, it's been going up consistently throughout the last CBA. Salary floor in 2015/2016 was $63 million. You are also forgetting that Chandler was one of the moves we made to help bring in LMA as well. That obviously didn't work out as planned, but I still think that getting Chandler was not bad. We have not won more, but that's not on him. Remember, you have to pay somebody, would you rather have Ed Davis or Brandan Wright on vastly overvalued contracts or Chandler on a good one. The NBA is about having at least one elite skill and Chandler has it. Neither Davis nor Wright do.

Alex should be learning from Chandler (and I think he has). If you want to complain about Alex's development that's not on Chandler. If it's on anyone its on the FO and the coaching staff who have not been able to help him overcome his mental focus and nervousness on the court. Playing is more than about skill, it's mental toughness and preparation too, and Alex has to do his own work there. He has the tools, just not sure he knows how to use them...maybe never will. More games will help, more time can help, but he has to show improvement. The team cannot wait forever.

Brandon Wright makes 5.7M and Davis makes 6.6M per year on deals that are a year shorter than Chandlers 12.4M per year. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree that Chandler is on a "good contract". Frankly I'm not sure the suns would get any type of asset back in a chandler trade so to me it's a "neutral" at best contract.

I guess we just have different team building approaches. To me I would never pay any FA in their 30's over a couple mil per year on a short deal until they are the 'missing piece' as your young team is on the upswing. In general I would never pay a role player over the MLE type level unless I was a top 4 contending team. I would rather use cap space like Philly did to take on an unwanted contract and get an asset out of it. Plus I would never sign a guy who won't be part of my core in the future to block a prospect I took in the lottery. I'm not saying I'm 100% right but that's my philosophy.

[Frank Lee]

Haha.... Milsap ? Cousins ? Butler ?



Uh oh.... been down this path before.

[LukasBMW]

No one is messing with GSW anytime soon and Bron Bron is going to do all he can to stack his team to compete. I bet he tries to bring in Melo and Wade and other ring chasers.

The Warriors and Cavs are going to be like the Roadrunner and Coyote trying to outdue eachcother with ACME explosives.

Meanwhile, we should pop some popcorn, trade Bledsoe, and let our youngsters figure it out.

We'll be ready to compete when Step/KD/Klay start to get jealous and the Warriors break up in 2-4 years.

[sunsbum]

No one is messing with GSW anytime soon and Bron Bron is going to do all he can to stack his team to compete. I bet he tries to bring in Melo and Wade and other ring chasers.

The Warriors and Cavs are going to be like the Roadrunner and Coyote trying to outdue eachcother with ACME explosives.

Meanwhile, we should pop some popcorn, trade Bledsoe, and let our youngsters figure it out.

We'll be ready to compete when Step/KD/Klay start to get jealous and the Warriors break up in 2-4 years.

I bet he goes to San Antonio.

[bwgood77]

Are we really sure he'll get even close to that much? When was the last time a guy with bad knee injuries got that kind of contract? I mean non-HoFers, borderline all-stars. I'm blanking, I honestly don't know. And by the time he's a free agent the spending frenzy from the cap boom might have calmed down.

It would probably start at 25 or so but with raises the contract would equal close to 30. Last time his agent wanted a max contract and he had only started a half a year. Lets see what guys like Jrue Holiday get.

[bwgood77]

No one is messing with GSW anytime soon and Bron Bron is going to do all he can to stack his team to compete. I bet he tries to bring in Melo and Wade and other ring chasers.

The Warriors and Cavs are going to be like the Roadrunner and Coyote trying to outdue eachcother with ACME explosives.

Meanwhile, we should pop some popcorn, trade Bledsoe, and let our youngsters figure it out.

We'll be ready to compete when Step/KD/Klay start to get jealous and the Warriors break up in 2-4 years.

I bet he goes to San Antonio.

Wade and Melo would make that team worse unless they signed for minimum contracts and came off the bench in limited minutes. They might still make it worse even in that scenario though. They are too ball dominant and can't hit the 3 well enough.

Now if Cleveland could get Paul George, and play Kyrie/Smith/George/LeBron/Love that would give them their own death lineup with all guys that can hit the 3 and George could play defense...he is a good matchup guy with the warrior to help them guard their length. He could guard Klay while LeBron guarded KD.

I don't think LeBron is going anywhere. Paul may go to SA though.

[TeamTragic]

No one is messing with GSW anytime soon and Bron Bron is going to do all he can to stack his team to compete. I bet he tries to bring in Melo and Wade and other ring chasers.

The Warriors and Cavs are going to be like the Roadrunner and Coyote trying to outdue eachcother with ACME explosives.

Meanwhile, we should pop some popcorn, trade Bledsoe, and let our youngsters figure it out.

We'll be ready to compete when Step/KD/Klay start to get jealous and the Warriors break up in 2-4 years.

I bet he goes to San Antonio.

That would definitely be a Lebron-type move.

[sunsbum]

No one is messing with GSW anytime soon and Bron Bron is going to do all he can to stack his team to compete. I bet he tries to bring in Melo and Wade and other ring chasers.

The Warriors and Cavs are going to be like the Roadrunner and Coyote trying to outdue eachcother with ACME explosives.

Meanwhile, we should pop some popcorn, trade Bledsoe, and let our youngsters figure it out.

We'll be ready to compete when Step/KD/Klay start to get jealous and the Warriors break up in 2-4 years.

I bet he goes to San Antonio.

Wade and Melo would make that team worse unless they signed for minimum contracts and came off the bench in limited minutes. They might still make it worse even in that scenario though. They are too ball dominant and can't hit the 3 well enough.

Now if Cleveland could get Paul George, and play Kyrie/Smith/George/LeBron/Love that would give them their own death lineup with all guys that can hit the 3 and George could play defense...he is a good matchup guy with the warrior to help them guard their length. He could guard Klay while LeBron guarded KD.

I don't think LeBron is going anywhere. Paul may go to SA though.

So I've started to see LeBron wedge a crack in the door for leaving Clevland. I just read something the other day how he said his mom and wife didn't want him to go back to Cleavland at all because of what Gilbert wrote about him the first time he cupcaked out. I don't think Cleveland can really add to their team much that would put them on level with GS unless they Brooklyn Nets their future. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see LeBron leave, he's a bitch, he's always been a bitch.

[DirtyDez]

Lebron is not a free agent. He signed a 2+1 last summer.

If the opportunity emerges in 2018 that there's a better shot to win a title he should leave. He doesn't owe Cleveland anything.

[bwgood77]

I bet he goes to San Antonio.

Wade and Melo would make that team worse unless they signed for minimum contracts and came off the bench in limited minutes. They might still make it worse even in that scenario though. They are too ball dominant and can't hit the 3 well enough.

Now if Cleveland could get Paul George, and play Kyrie/Smith/George/LeBron/Love that would give them their own death lineup with all guys that can hit the 3 and George could play defense...he is a good matchup guy with the warrior to help them guard their length. He could guard Klay while LeBron guarded KD.

I don't think LeBron is going anywhere. Paul may go to SA though.

So I've started to see LeBron wedge a crack in the door for leaving Clevland. I just read something the other day how he said his mom and wife didn't want him to go back to Cleavland at all because of what Gilbert wrote about him the first time he cupcaked out. I don't think Cleveland can really add to their team much that would put them on level with GS unless they Brooklyn Nets their future. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see LeBron leave, he's a bitch, he's always been a bitch.

I don't see where he'd have a better chance and how he could be traded. He's not a FA. SA would have to deplete their team to trade for him and I don't think the Cavs would give him up for Gasol, Aldridge, etc. They have talked about signing Paul since he is a FA, but they will have to somehow get rid of a lot of players to do that. Maybe he leaves after next year but I don't know who will have the cap space or assets to trade for him if it was a S&T. Just doesn't seem plausible.

[sunsbum]

Lebron is not a free agent. He signed a 2+1 last summer.

If the opportunity emerges in 2018 that there's a better shot to win a title he should leave. He doesn't owe Cleveland anything.

I think true superstars don't bail on their team unless that team simply refuses to be competitive or is just a terribly run franchise with 0 hope. Cleavland has done pretty much everything in their power to put a team around lebron. Sure he doesn't owe them anything, doesnt make him any less of a cupcake.

[sunsbum]

Wade and Melo would make that team worse unless they signed for minimum contracts and came off the bench in limited minutes. They might still make it worse even in that scenario though. They are too ball dominant and can't hit the 3 well enough.

Now if Cleveland could get Paul George, and play Kyrie/Smith/George/LeBron/Love that would give them their own death lineup with all guys that can hit the 3 and George could play defense...he is a good matchup guy with the warrior to help them guard their length. He could guard Klay while LeBron guarded KD.

I don't think LeBron is going anywhere. Paul may go to SA though.

So I've started to see LeBron wedge a crack in the door for leaving Clevland. I just read something the other day how he said his mom and wife didn't want him to go back to Cleavland at all because of what Gilbert wrote about him the first time he cupcaked out. I don't think Cleveland can really add to their team much that would put them on level with GS unless they Brooklyn Nets their future. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see LeBron leave, he's a bitch, he's always been a bitch.

I don't see where he'd have a better chance and how he could be traded. He's not a FA. SA would have to deplete their team to trade for him and I don't think the Cavs would give him up for Gasol, Aldridge, etc. They have talked about signing Paul since he is a FA, but they will have to somehow get rid of a lot of players to do that. Maybe he leaves after next year but I don't know who will have the cap space or assets to trade for him if it was a S&T. Just doesn't seem plausible.

yes I mean in 2018.

[pidi]

But what can cleveland Add to Mess with the Warriors?? I am so sad that gsw Reminds me that much to the nash-suns.. sad but true

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[DirtyDez]

But what can cleveland Add to Mess with the Warriors?? I am so sad that gsw Reminds me that much to the nash-suns.. sad but true

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Shoot for a Love/George or Love/Cousins swap.















Settle on Melo.

[Damkac]

No one is messing with GSW anytime soon and Bron Bron is going to do all he can to stack his team to compete. I bet he tries to bring in Melo and Wade and other ring chasers.

The Warriors and Cavs are going to be like the Roadrunner and Coyote trying to outdue eachcother with ACME explosives.

Meanwhile, we should pop some popcorn, trade Bledsoe, and let our youngsters figure it out.

We'll be ready to compete when Step/KD/Klay start to get jealous and the Warriors break up in 2-4 years.

I bet he goes to San Antonio.

That would definitely be a Lebron-type move.

And after they would lose he would say he needs more help

[LukasBMW]

Wade and Melo might be old, but if you give them limited roles on an already stacked Cavs team + Lebron hooks them up with his Miami PED connect, they'd have firepower to make noise.