NBA Draft and NCAA Basketball

[PackSuns]

Go Pack!!! Keatts is a stud

Nice game. Trier couldn't hit a 3 to save his life and then when he basically had to shoot them at the end he was just passing them up and dribbling inside as the clock was running out.

I like Trier's game a lot. Ayton is a beast. Great hands. Soft touch. I do worry about 18-19 yr olds that look 35 though.

[bwgood77]

Go Pack!!! Keatts is a stud

Nice game. Trier couldn't hit a 3 to save his life and then when he basically had to shoot them at the end he was just passing them up and dribbling inside as the clock was running out.

I like Trier's game a lot. Ayton is a beast. Great hands. Soft touch. I do worry about 18-19 yr olds that look 35 though.

He looks like David Robinson. Not his play, just his physique, mustache, etc.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I want ayton... I'm not sure he will be great but the potential of what he would be if he is great excites me. If he's what he could be he would be such a great fit with booker and warren. A guy they could dump it to in the post and get double teams would open up so much.

He's my clear one right now.

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[Mulhollanddrive]

As much as I was hoping for more quality depth around our pick it looks like a feast or famine draft.

I see similarites to 2007 where they had a top 5 of Oden, Durant, Horford, Conley, Green while Wilson Chandler looks to be the best current player out of picks 6-30.

[Bogyo]

As much as I was hoping for more quality depth around our pick it looks like a feast or famine draft.

I see similarites to 2007 where they had a top 5 of Oden, Durant, Horford, Conley, Green while Wilson Chandler looks to be the best current player out of picks 6-30.

Disagree a bit. There are 3-4 big guys after the top5 who could all be OK, there are 1-2 wings and 1-2 PGs who could all do well. Not the deepest draft ever, but if teams get the order right, the top 10 should have solid NBA careers.

[bwgood77]

Watching how raw and inconsistent Chriss, Bender and Jackson are, I really hope we can draft some people who are a bit more polished.

Yeah, I was thinking the same today. 4 raw prospects to develop is a bit too much.

So... Doncic?

Funny he's the youngest guy of like the top 10 other than maybe Jackson, but yeah, he's probably more polished given he has played major minutes and starred internationally against professionals.

He seems to be the most clear cut top prospect with least bust potential. There are some questions with the other top guys. But I think mostly it should be important to get some experienced guys with our later picks, maybe like we did with Davon Reed this past year. You think of some guys that played several years in college and came in looking good like Draymond Green, McCollum, etc.

Even if it's just like a complete role player for defense, energy guy, etc. I think we should just use all those 2nd rounders to draft guys like that, play them in summer league and see who looks good or develop them on the G league if we need to.

[bwgood77]

I want ayton... I'm not sure he will be great but the potential of what he would be if he is great excites me. If he's what he could be he would be such a great fit with booker and warren. A guy they could dump it to in the post and get double teams would open up so much.

He's my clear one right now.

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He's exciting. I'm watching him now and watched him yesterday. I'd love to get him. I'll watch him plenty this year and probably watch Bamba a bit. I haven't watched anyone enough but with my limited knowledge and knowing what we need I'd be happy with Ayton, Doncic or Bamba. Of course I couldn't complain with Bagley, and I thought he was possibly #1 a while back, but he feels like a tweener and if he can't play 5 full time or shoot from outside, it scares me a bit. At least Ayton has a bit of range, while also being a true 7 footer. He could be a bit like Embiid.

I think we are going to have to win a top 3 pick in the lottery to have a chance at Ayton or Doncic though, because I really don't see us finishing worse than the Kings, Mavs, Bulls or Hawks. Originally I thought there might be more bad teams in the east so they would beat up each other, but almost, if not every eastern team is like a tier better than the Bulls and Hawks. There might be a chance the Mavs pick it up. The Kings seem to be really bad though.

I'm going to go ahead and settle for our best pick ending up being Sexton, Jackson or Carter. Maybe Williams. If we could end up with one of those centers and Sexton (or maybe Duval) with our's and Miami's picks, I'll be fairly happy. Obviously I want one of the big names and the lotto luck, but can't really count on that.

[bwgood77]

As much as I was hoping for more quality depth around our pick it looks like a feast or famine draft.

I see similarites to 2007 where they had a top 5 of Oden, Durant, Horford, Conley, Green while Wilson Chandler looks to be the best current player out of picks 6-30.

Disagree a bit. There are 3-4 big guys after the top5 who could all be OK, there are 1-2 wings and 1-2 PGs who could all do well. Not the deepest draft ever, but if teams get the order right, the top 10 should have solid NBA careers.

Also forgot how good Noah used to be.

[bwgood77]

For having Ayton and a top 3 recruiting class, the Wildcats are pathetic. In an 8 team tournament, that they entered ranked #2 in the country, they lost their first two games to two unranked opponents, so they will basically be playing their third game for 7th place of an 8 team tournament. Some of their turnovers in crunch time have been unbelievably terrible. Trier seems like a really low iq player.

Funny thing is there were 3 ranked teams in this tournament...#2 AZ, #5 Villanova, and #18 Purdue, and AZ and Purdue will play for 7th place. I don't have a lot of confidence AZ will win either.

[darealjuice]

For having Ayton and a top 3 recruiting class, the Wildcats are pathetic. In an 8 team tournament, that they entered ranked #2 in the country, they lost their first two games to two unranked opponents, so they will basically be playing their third game for 7th place of an 8 team tournament. Some of their turnovers in crunch time have been unbelievably terrible. Trier seems like a really low iq player.

Funny thing is there were 3 ranked teams in this tournament...#2 AZ, #5 Villanova, and #18 Purdue, and AZ and Purdue will play for 7th place. I don't have a lot of confidence AZ will win either.

I'm glad they're gonna play Purdue though, it'll be interesting to see Ayton match up with another extremely tall, strong, and fairly mobile center like Isaac Haas. Honestly, I haven't been too impressed with Ayton on the defensive end. I love that he's pretty comfortable switching on the perimeter, but I'm disappointed by his lack of intensity on defense and rim protection. He's got the potential to be a dominant player on the defensive end, but it feels like the only time he's in a stance trying to make an impact on defense is when he's the on-ball defender.

[ATTL]

Will u of a be unranked next week?

[bwgood77]

For having Ayton and a top 3 recruiting class, the Wildcats are pathetic. In an 8 team tournament, that they entered ranked #2 in the country, they lost their first two games to two unranked opponents, so they will basically be playing their third game for 7th place of an 8 team tournament. Some of their turnovers in crunch time have been unbelievably terrible. Trier seems like a really low iq player.

Funny thing is there were 3 ranked teams in this tournament...#2 AZ, #5 Villanova, and #18 Purdue, and AZ and Purdue will play for 7th place. I don't have a lot of confidence AZ will win either.

I'm glad they're gonna play Purdue though, it'll be interesting to see Ayton match up with another extremely tall, strong, and fairly mobile center like Isaac Haas. Honestly, I haven't been too impressed with Ayton on the defensive end. I love that he's pretty comfortable switching on the perimeter, but I'm disappointed by his lack of intensity on defense and rim protection. He's got the potential to be a dominant player on the defensive end, but it feels like the only time he's in a stance trying to make an impact on defense is when he's the on-ball defender.

Yeah, he obviously isn't a true difference maker yet or they wouldn't be losing to these types of teams. Both teams scored a bunch at the rim. He's pretty lazy defensively. That's the question mark with him is can he be good defensively. That's really not a question mark the Suns want to have with their C either. He is very interesting offensively and is athletic and closed out quickly for a nice block tonight and if he was really engaged all the time he'd be great. I can't complain regardless if we end up with him because I'm pretty confident he will be a very good player, at least on the offensive side, and probably decent and very good at times, on the defensive side. It's still way too early for making such proclamations yet though and I really want to see more of the other guys too like Bamba, Williams, Jackson and Carter.

But watching Ayton's first two games against real division 1 schools who are unranked...games we were supposed to easily win, and watching them lose and his impact, if he were a Phx Sun he'd be getting the Marquese Chriss treatment here.

[bwgood77]

Will u of a be unranked next week?

They should be, win or lose in their final game. So should Purdue.

[DirtyDez]

For having Ayton and a top 3 recruiting class, the Wildcats are pathetic. In an 8 team tournament, that they entered ranked #2 in the country, they lost their first two games to two unranked opponents, so they will basically be playing their third game for 7th place of an 8 team tournament. Some of their turnovers in crunch time have been unbelievably terrible. Trier seems like a really low iq player.

Funny thing is there were 3 ranked teams in this tournament...#2 AZ, #5 Villanova, and #18 Purdue, and AZ and Purdue will play for 7th place. I don't have a lot of confidence AZ will win either.

Chemistry is very poor and Miller is probably losing his mind over the continuing FBI stuff. I'm always careful to put a ceiling on a team in November but they need to turn it around quick or they'll get a really crappy seed. It's interesting that Miller has had three different teams that had 4 or less losses heading into the tourney and never made the F4. Yet Lute won a championship with a 9-loss team. Beating Purdue would be a start but I'm not expecting it.

[AtheJ415]

Arizona should not be ranked. If not for Ayton's brilliance they would have lost both games by 20+ imo. I have no idea how that team looks so uncoached with the extra practices that come with an International trip. I like Miller, but he should have made a final four by now, and imo if he doesn't this year he should be gone, particularly with the FBI investigation. That team looks like an NIT team, and while there are a lot of freshman, it's CBB and freshman at the level Arizona recruits ought to be ready to play. NC State has a new coach and an entire team learning a new system. They allowed SMU something like 27 more FGA. It's a disaster. They have drastically more talent than both of those teams.

[bwgood77]

For having Ayton and a top 3 recruiting class, the Wildcats are pathetic. In an 8 team tournament, that they entered ranked #2 in the country, they lost their first two games to two unranked opponents, so they will basically be playing their third game for 7th place of an 8 team tournament. Some of their turnovers in crunch time have been unbelievably terrible. Trier seems like a really low iq player.

Funny thing is there were 3 ranked teams in this tournament...#2 AZ, #5 Villanova, and #18 Purdue, and AZ and Purdue will play for 7th place. I don't have a lot of confidence AZ will win either.

Chemistry is very poor and Miller is probably losing his mind over the continuing FBI stuff. I'm always careful to put a ceiling on a team in November but they need to turn it around quick or they'll get a really crappy seed. It's interesting that Miller has had three different teams that had 4 or less losses heading into the tourney and never made the F4. Yet Lute won a championship with a 9-loss team. Beating Purdue would be a start but I'm not expecting it.

Oh yeah, sometimes I think early losses can do a team some good. Two losses consecutively to unranked opponents sucks, but it was on consecutive days, but they go home and let this sink in that they are not as good as they probably thought they were and it's probably a good thing in the long run. I don't care about seed if a team is ready with the right mindset. I'd rather them go in knowing anyone can beat them if they don't have their A game. In the long run this doesn't bother me. That's what I love about NCAA basketball...early losses don't hurt that bad if you are at least a pretty good team. It's not like football where only 4 teams instead of 68 get in and a couple of losses ends your season for all championship purposes.

[Damkac]

Could Booker-Doncic backcourt work on defense? They would have to guard players quicker than them almost all time. Good thing is they would have size advantage almost all time as well and it would be easier for them to switch. Maybe if they had good defensive coach it could work because both are high bbiq players and should understand defensive schemes well.

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[Mulhollanddrive]

Mock to our pick:

1. Chicago - Doncic
2. Atlanta - Ayton
3. Sacramento - Bagley
4. Dallas - Bamba
5. Cleveland - Porter
6. Phoenix - Jackson

[DirtyDez]

If we have our choice of Jackson Jr and Sexton I'll consider this a good season.