2020 Season/Offseason (FA/Trade) Speculation - the Season Resumes

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

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I posted the whole interview but here's the clip of McD talking about how the Bridges deal went down.

Lots of 'we could have picked SGA 10' on this board last year. Yeah that's not how that went down.

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Interesting! I wonder though if SGA was the other player he mentions we would have been willing to make that trade for.

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It's funny he says this is the first time saying anything publicly about it when I (and I'm assuming many others here) already knew the story of how the Bridges deal came together. Nothing new here.

What I want to hear is how the following draft selections were made: Tyler Ennis, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Dragan Bender, Marquese Chriss, Josh Jackson... Deandre Ayton. I want to know who made those decisions and why.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Read on Twitter

I posted the whole interview but here's the clip of McD talking about how the Bridges deal went down.

Lots of 'we could have picked SGA 10' on this board last year. Yeah that's not how that went down.

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Interesting! I wonder though if SGA was the other player he mentions we would have been willing to make that trade for.

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It's funny he says this is the first time saying anything publicly about it when I (and I'm assuming many others here) already knew the story of how the Bridges deal came together. Nothing new here.

What I want to hear is how the following draft selections were made: Tyler Ennis, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Dragan Bender, Marquese Chriss, Josh Jackson... Deandre Ayton. I want to know who made those decisions and why.

Yeah this was always the logical sequence of events that lead to that deal. I posted because there were some people on here that swore up and down that the suns could have had SGA instead. Now I do believe the suns liked SGA and might have been the target at 10 on the original call. I also suspect Phoenix tried getting 11 from Charlotte and that interest led to Charlotte getting an asset from the clippers for moving one spot back and taking Miles Bridges. But I always thought getting 11 was a long shot because it wasn't a secret predraft that Charlotte loved Miles Bridges and moving back all the way to 15 instead of 12 would have meant not getting him.

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[suns12345]

Read on Twitter

I posted the whole interview but here's the clip of McD talking about how the Bridges deal went down.

Lots of 'we could have picked SGA 10' on this board last year. Yeah that's not how that went down.

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Interesting! I wonder though if SGA was the other player he mentions we would have been willing to make that trade for.

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From bits and pieces I have read I think that is the case. Although, it is probably easy in hindsight for a GM to say they wanted to pick one of the best players in the draft.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Read on Twitter

I posted the whole interview but here's the clip of McD talking about how the Bridges deal went down.

Lots of 'we could have picked SGA 10' on this board last year. Yeah that's not how that went down.

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Interesting! I wonder though if SGA was the other player he mentions we would have been willing to make that trade for.

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From bits and pieces I have read I think that is the case. Although, it is probably easy in hindsight for a GM to say they wanted to pick one of the best players in the draft.

IIRC, the full story was that after getting off the first call with Philly, we were on the phone with Charlotte at #11, trying to grab Shai, and we had Shai ahead of Bridges. If Bridges were our #1 target, McD would have said so.

This story was broken in 2018 (can't recall whether it was during the season or the summer... I think summer), so it's what I believed happened. One of the very few Suns transactions where the course of events is not really in question.

[bwgood77]

Read on Twitter

I posted the whole interview but here's the clip of McD talking about how the Bridges deal went down.

Lots of 'we could have picked SGA 10' on this board last year. Yeah that's not how that went down.

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Interesting! I wonder though if SGA was the other player he mentions we would have been willing to make that trade for.

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Yeah, I'm sure it was, and there were rumors before the draft we wanted to trade up for Trae or him.

[bwgood77]

Read on Twitter

I posted the whole interview but here's the clip of McD talking about how the Bridges deal went down.

Lots of 'we could have picked SGA 10' on this board last year. Yeah that's not how that went down.

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Interesting! I wonder though if SGA was the other player he mentions we would have been willing to make that trade for.

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It's funny he says this is the first time saying anything publicly about it when I (and I'm assuming many others here) already knew the story of how the Bridges deal came together. Nothing new here.

What I want to hear is how the following draft selections were made: Tyler Ennis, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Dragan Bender, Marquese Chriss, Josh Jackson... Deandre Ayton. I want to know who made those decisions and why.

He talked about it publicly right after the draft...that they got a call while on the clock ready to make their pick and made the deal....even mentioned "lets just say we liked one of Mikal's teammates" (Divincenzo). They thought they were taking Donte until the Sixers called when on the clock. That's why all the Gambo talk or whatever was bogus because they didn't know they could get Bridges until Shai was long gone.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Interesting! I wonder though if SGA was the other player he mentions we would have been willing to make that trade for.

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It's funny he says this is the first time saying anything publicly about it when I (and I'm assuming many others here) already knew the story of how the Bridges deal came together. Nothing new here.

What I want to hear is how the following draft selections were made: Tyler Ennis, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Dragan Bender, Marquese Chriss, Josh Jackson... Deandre Ayton. I want to know who made those decisions and why.

He talked about it publicly right after the draft...that they got a call while on the clock ready to make their pick and made the deal....even mentioned "lets just say we liked one of Mikal's teammates" (Divincenzo). They thought they were taking Donte until the Sixers called when on the clock. That's why all the Gambo talk or whatever was bogus because they didn't know they could get Bridges until Shai was long gone.

Gambo tweeted the pick was DD right before that trade went down, in hindsight wouldn't have been a bad selection.

I think some suns Twitter media/blog type kind of started the McD wanted SGA but Jones/Sarver wanted Bridges instead. I have always said the timing of events never made sense in that regard.

As I was saying earlier I do think the suns wanted SGA and tried to go up to get him but ultimately it takes two to tango on trades.

It is funny that 21 Miami pick was so coveted and has been traded multiple times but as long as the Heat aren't absolutely hammered with injuries next year it will end up being a pretty insignificant pick.

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[bigfoot]

So the recent play of Cam Payne, Cam Johnson, Dario Saric, and Jevon Carter has really thrown a wrench into our offseason. Before I felt we were really lacking at the PG/SG position and others were saying our PF position needed to be addressed.

Rubio/Payne/Lecque
Booker/Carter/Jerome
Bridges/Oubre/?
Johnson/Saric/?
Ayton/Baynes/Frank

Assuming we bring Carter, Saric, and Baynes back for next season what should we really do this offseason??

We would need to find replacements for Diallo and Okobo. I don't think we just dump Frank because we would need to find a veteran replacement. In the event of injury, I'm not comfortable with Lecque and Jerome as third-stringers. So what position do we try to fill using the MLE??

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

So the recent play of Cam Payne, Cam Johnson, Dario Saric, and Jevon Carter has really thrown a wrench into our offseason. Before I felt we were really lacking at the PG/SG position and others were saying our PF position needed to be addressed.

Rubio/Payne/Lecque
Booker/Carter/Jerome
Bridges/Oubre/?
Johnson/Saric/?
Ayton/Baynes/Frank

Assuming we bring Carter, Saric, and Baynes back for next season what should we really do this offseason??

We would need to find replacements for Diallo and Okobo. I don't think we just dump Frank because we would need to find a veteran replacement. In the event of injury, I'm not comfortable with Lecque and Jerome as third-stringers. So what position do we try to fill using the MLE??

We're not picking up Frank's option. No way, Jose.

[bwgood77]

So the recent play of Cam Payne, Cam Johnson, Dario Saric, and Jevon Carter has really thrown a wrench into our offseason. Before I felt we were really lacking at the PG/SG position and others were saying our PF position needed to be addressed.

Rubio/Payne/Lecque
Booker/Carter/Jerome
Bridges/Oubre/?
Johnson/Saric/?
Ayton/Baynes/Frank

Assuming we bring Carter, Saric, and Baynes back for next season what should we really do this offseason??

We would need to find replacements for Diallo and Okobo. I don't think we just dump Frank because we would need to find a veteran replacement. In the event of injury, I'm not comfortable with Lecque and Jerome as third-stringers. So what position do we try to fill using the MLE??

We're not picking up Frank's option. No way, Jose.

If we do not renounce Baynes and Saric, guarantee Payne's contract, and extend the QO to Carter, does that take all our cap space? It seems it must be pretty close. I wonder if we hit the cap if Sarver will even use the whole MLE if we are over the cap, even just barely. He may just round out the roster with minimums. We will also likely have to pay a top 16 pick unless he sells that.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

So the recent play of Cam Payne, Cam Johnson, Dario Saric, and Jevon Carter has really thrown a wrench into our offseason. Before I felt we were really lacking at the PG/SG position and others were saying our PF position needed to be addressed.

Rubio/Payne/Lecque
Booker/Carter/Jerome
Bridges/Oubre/?
Johnson/Saric/?
Ayton/Baynes/Frank

Assuming we bring Carter, Saric, and Baynes back for next season what should we really do this offseason??

We would need to find replacements for Diallo and Okobo. I don't think we just dump Frank because we would need to find a veteran replacement. In the event of injury, I'm not comfortable with Lecque and Jerome as third-stringers. So what position do we try to fill using the MLE??

We're not picking up Frank's option. No way, Jose.

If we do not renounce Baynes and Saric, guarantee Payne's contract, and extend the QO to Carter, does that take all our cap space? It seems it must be pretty close. I wonder if we hit the cap if Sarver will even use the whole MLE if we are over the cap, even just barely. He may just round out the roster with minimums. We will also likely have to pay a top 16 pick unless he sells that.

Man, I just can't handle the thought that the owner's as big of a jackass as your posts imply. Not saying you're wrong. Just saying I can't handle it. Jesus, Robert. If you're drowning, please just drown quickly so we can get a real high roller in here to write the checks.

[bwgood77]

We're not picking up Frank's option. No way, Jose.

If we do not renounce Baynes and Saric, guarantee Payne's contract, and extend the QO to Carter, does that take all our cap space? It seems it must be pretty close. I wonder if we hit the cap if Sarver will even use the whole MLE if we are over the cap, even just barely. He may just round out the roster with minimums. We will also likely have to pay a top 16 pick unless he sells that.

Man, I just can't handle the thought that the owner's as big of a jackass as your posts imply. Not saying you're wrong. Just saying I can't handle it. Jesus, Robert. If you're drowning, please just drown quickly so we can get a real high roller in here to write the checks.

Well, there is a lot of talk about people wanting to sell picks. If you took a survey of basketball fans, or basketball GMs, or the media, who do you think would name as the most likely?

I don't think we were doing particularly well with fans and the arena before COVID, and then the G league team sale, etc. I just don't know.

Long term thinking, it's smart to use your picks if you can use them wisely because they are cost controlled contracts, so hopefully he thinks in those terms. Would you rather him use the MLE on a decent player or use the draft pick on a guy you really like if it was one or the other?

[Frank Lee]

We keep our boys, there won’t be too many minutes to spare. Hard to entice a marquis player with just 20 some minutes of earned playing time. And I can’t imagine a big shake up of our main personnel with the recent run. So It’s likely we won’t have a guaranteed starting slot to give. Monty makes you work for your playing time. I bet we target a young hungry to deShank the bench.

As far as the Shai Bridges DD talk.... We got the right dude. No spilling milk there.

[AtheJ415]

Saric needs to be kept. Kaminsky has no business being on an NBA roster. He is the most unplayable dude on the team and among the most unplayable in the league.

Saric can play some 5. He should be valued ahead of Baynes due to versatility, age, and upside.

We still need another 4/5 traditional big in case Ayton gets hurt or foul trouble, and a solid backup 1. It's hard to tell if Cam is a flash in the pan or not at this point, and Carter is not a 1 in the NBA. He's a 2. He only plays when somebody else is running the offense. We need an actual backup 1 or combo guard who can initiate the offense.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

If we do not renounce Baynes and Saric, guarantee Payne's contract, and extend the QO to Carter, does that take all our cap space? It seems it must be pretty close. I wonder if we hit the cap if Sarver will even use the whole MLE if we are over the cap, even just barely. He may just round out the roster with minimums. We will also likely have to pay a top 16 pick unless he sells that.

Man, I just can't handle the thought that the owner's as big of a jackass as your posts imply. Not saying you're wrong. Just saying I can't handle it. Jesus, Robert. If you're drowning, please just drown quickly so we can get a real high roller in here to write the checks.

Well, there is a lot of talk about people wanting to sell picks. If you took a survey of basketball fans, or basketball GMs, or the media, who do you think would name as the most likely?

I don't think we were doing particularly well with fans and the arena before COVID, and then the G league team sale, etc. I just don't know.

Long term thinking, it's smart to use your picks if you can use them wisely because they are cost controlled contracts, so hopefully he thinks in those terms. Would you rather him use the MLE on a decent player or use the draft pick on a guy you really like if it was one or the other?

MLE, easy. The picks are still shots in the dark no matter how much I like them. Doing everything you can to win is a requisite at this point. Buying a SRP in this draft is more about optimizing our chances for long-term success. A good franchise would do it. Only a bad franchise would refuse to spend the MLE to improve the team.

... but of course, it's not really a fair comparison. A SRP cannot possibly cost more than $3 million (and the opportunity cost of a roster spot) and will likely cost less I feel. The MLE is, what, $9 million per?

[bwgood77]

Man, I just can't handle the thought that the owner's as big of a jackass as your posts imply. Not saying you're wrong. Just saying I can't handle it. Jesus, Robert. If you're drowning, please just drown quickly so we can get a real high roller in here to write the checks.

Well, there is a lot of talk about people wanting to sell picks. If you took a survey of basketball fans, or basketball GMs, or the media, who do you think would name as the most likely?

I don't think we were doing particularly well with fans and the arena before COVID, and then the G league team sale, etc. I just don't know.

Long term thinking, it's smart to use your picks if you can use them wisely because they are cost controlled contracts, so hopefully he thinks in those terms. Would you rather him use the MLE on a decent player or use the draft pick on a guy you really like if it was one or the other?

MLE, easy. The picks are still shots in the dark no matter how much I like them. Doing everything you can to win is a requisite at this point. Buying a SRP in this draft is more about optimizing our chances for long-term success. A good franchise would do it. Only a bad franchise would refuse to spend the MLE to improve the team.

... but of course, it's not really a fair comparison. A SRP cannot possibly cost more than $3 million (and the opportunity cost of a roster spot) and will likely cost less I feel. The MLE is, what, $9 million per?

Yeah. It's tough to know who might be available...probably come down to a Bazemore, Evan Turner or maybe if they let him go, Justin Holiday vs maybe a Vassell or something. But tough to know who would be available in either situation.

[Qwigglez]

I have a feeling Sarver is going to be tight on money after keeping Carter, Payne, Saric, and Baynes, With tighter restrictions I think maybe we can get players like Pat Connaughton, Kyle O'Quinn. Wes Mathews or Marco Belenelli might be a good vet to have around Cam, Bridges, and Oubre. Anthony Tolliver is another vet that could help round out our roster. I think it's better to get these older veterans that will know their role and that playing time will be severely limited. Hell, I'd even call back Jamal Crawford.

[Slim Charless]

I have a feeling Sarver is going to be tight on money after keeping Carter, Payne, Saric, and Baynes, With tighter restrictions I think maybe we can get players like Pat Connaughton, Kyle O'Quinn. Wes Mathews or Marco Belenelli might be a good vet to have around Cam, Bridges, and Oubre. Anthony Tolliver is another vet that could help round out our roster. I think it's better to get these older veterans that will know their role and that playing time will be severely limited. Hell, I'd even call back Jamal Crawford.

I agree i don't see any major FA signings this offseason. Don't think he's gonna go as far as selling picks though. No matter what happens tomorrow we're debatabley the biggest story of the bubble with a ton of good will going into next season. I think(hope) he learned his lesson with selling picks.

I'd be happy if he kept our guys that have preformed in the bubble and didn't sell the pick. Also if he allows Monty and JJ make that pick w/o his interference.

[nevetsov]

Is Okobo guaranteed next season? Hoopshype has his 2020-21 guaranteed already for $1.6m. $2021-22 still unguaranteed though.

[Saberestar]

Is Okobo guaranteed next season? Hoopshype has his 2020-21 guaranteed already for $1.6m. $2021-22 still unguaranteed though.

2020-21 non-guaranteed, fully if not waived on or before 7/10/20

That's why Hoopshype has him already guaranteed, but it looks like a mistake for their part. With the season not over yet obviously that date has changed.