2021 Playoff and Offseason Speculation - the playoffs. PLAYOFFS????

[BobbieL]

Robin wouldn’t be bad to have as back up C either

RoLo has developed into a decent NBA role playing center
Not my first choice for depth at the 5 but of that list of former Suns - probably would take a chance on him

I have a feeling that there will be many veterans out there - once it becomes the veteran minimum time of the offseason - that are going to want to come to Phoenix. Especially if Chris Paul is back at PG.

[King4Day]

If anyone is interested, they restocked the white Booker Team USA jerseys.
The blue one only has small left but it's possible they will restock too.

https://store.nba.com/mens-usa-basketball-devin-booker-nike-white-2020-summer-olympics-player-jersey/p-26264400453340+z-9559-3464978781?_ref=p-DLP:m-GRID:i-r0c1:po-1

[bwgood77]

If anyone is interested, they restocked the white Booker Team USA jerseys.
The blue one only has small left but it's possible they will restock too.

https://store.nba.com/mens-usa-basketball-devin-booker-nike-white-2020-summer-olympics-player-jersey/p-26264400453340+z-9559-3464978781?_ref=p-DLP:m-GRID:i-r0c1:po-1

Smokin deal!

[bigfoot]

So somebody help me out here. From what I gather,

The Suns do not have bird-rights to Craig. Suns are limited to offering him a max of 120% of his current salary or $2M. I think he's gonna get paid a bit more.

The Suns hold the early bird rights to Payne. Suns are limited to offering him a max of 175% of his current salary or $1.9M. He's definitely gonna get paid more.

We could sign either of them with part of the MLE ($9.5M) or BAE ($3.7M). So if the Suns plan to keep Payne and Craig it looks like they are going to need to dip significantly into their two exceptions.

Payne could eat up most of the MLE and Craig a chunk of the BAE. It means Jones really won't have much to offer free agents other than minimum vet contracts and a chance for a chip. For example, Payne was offered $7M and Craig $2.5M that would use up all the MLE. The Suns would have the BAE to use on a FA. Or if Craig took the full BAE and Payne $7M for the MLE then that's only $2.5M left of the MLE for free agents.

Does this sound right!??

[Calvin Klein]

The worst thing about being good is that there are not many bargains for merch. Everything is overpriced

Back in 13 I got this warm up jacket for 35 bucks. I still use it to this day and it looks awesome.



And this one for 25

[BobbieL]

So somebody help me out here. From what I gather,

The Suns do not have bird-rights to Craig. Suns are limited to offering him a max of 120% of his current salary or $2M. I think he's gonna get paid a bit more.

The Suns hold the early bird rights to Payne. Suns are limited to offering him a max of 175% of his current salary or $1.9M. He's definitely gonna get paid more.

We could sign either of them with part of the MLE ($9.5M) or BAE ($3.7M). So if the Suns plan to keep Payne and Craig it looks like they are going to need to dip significantly into their two exceptions.

Payne could eat up most of the MLE and Craig a chunk of the BAE. It means Jones really won't have much to offer free agents other than minimum vet contracts and a chance for a chip. For example, Payne was offered $7M and Craig $2.5M that would use up all the MLE. The Suns would have the BAE to use on a FA. Or if Craig took the full BAE and Payne $7M for the MLE then that's only $2.5M left of the MLE for free agents.

Does this sound right!??

I think this is right - where is Larry Coons , Bobby Marks or JDLAW when you need them?

But I do think the Suns can sign as many veterans on minimum level deals that they want . So I think Jones will have enough to either keep the roster mostly intact and still improve with the veterans minimums. So that could mean Galloway, Moore, Kaminsky are gone and other players in their place.

[Saberestar]

So somebody help me out here. From what I gather,

The Suns do not have bird-rights to Craig. Suns are limited to offering him a max of 120% of his current salary or $2M. I think he's gonna get paid a bit more.

The Suns hold the early bird rights to Payne. Suns are limited to offering him a max of 175% of his current salary or $1.9M. He's definitely gonna get paid more.

We could sign either of them with part of the MLE ($9.5M) or BAE ($3.7M). So if the Suns plan to keep Payne and Craig it looks like they are going to need to dip significantly into their two exceptions.

Payne could eat up most of the MLE and Craig a chunk of the BAE. It means Jones really won't have much to offer free agents other than minimum vet contracts and a chance for a chip. For example, Payne was offered $7M and Craig $2.5M that would use up all the MLE. The Suns would have the BAE to use on a FA. Or if Craig took the full BAE and Payne $7M for the MLE then that's only $2.5M left of the MLE for free agents.

Does this sound right!??

Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent (aka “Early Bird”) Exception: A team may re-sign its own free agent to a contract with a first-year salary of up to the greater of (a) 175% of the player's salary in the last season of his prior contract, or (b) 105% of the average player salary for the prior season.

We can pay to Cameron Payne in his next contract around $10M per year. No need to use any exception.

But I do not think we will need to pay him that much. Probably $7-8M per year would be enough.

[bigfoot]

So somebody help me out here. From what I gather,

The Suns do not have bird-rights to Craig. Suns are limited to offering him a max of 120% of his current salary or $2M. I think he's gonna get paid a bit more.

The Suns hold the early bird rights to Payne. Suns are limited to offering him a max of 175% of his current salary or $1.9M. He's definitely gonna get paid more.

We could sign either of them with part of the MLE ($9.5M) or BAE ($3.7M). So if the Suns plan to keep Payne and Craig it looks like they are going to need to dip significantly into their two exceptions.

Payne could eat up most of the MLE and Craig a chunk of the BAE. It means Jones really won't have much to offer free agents other than minimum vet contracts and a chance for a chip. For example, Payne was offered $7M and Craig $2.5M that would use up all the MLE. The Suns would have the BAE to use on a FA. Or if Craig took the full BAE and Payne $7M for the MLE then that's only $2.5M left of the MLE for free agents.

Does this sound right!??

Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent (aka “Early Bird”) Exception: A team may re-sign its own free agent to a contract with a first-year salary of up to the greater of (a) 175% of the player's salary in the last season of his prior contract, or (b) 105% of the average player salary for the prior season.

We can pay to Cameron Payne in his next contract around $10M per year. No need to use any exception.

But I do not think we will need to pay him that much. Probably $7-8M per year would be enough.

Perfect ... so the average NBA salary is $8.2M ... we can give him up to $8.6M and still have MLE and BAE for Craig and other free agents.

[Saberestar]

So somebody help me out here. From what I gather,

The Suns do not have bird-rights to Craig. Suns are limited to offering him a max of 120% of his current salary or $2M. I think he's gonna get paid a bit more.

The Suns hold the early bird rights to Payne. Suns are limited to offering him a max of 175% of his current salary or $1.9M. He's definitely gonna get paid more.

We could sign either of them with part of the MLE ($9.5M) or BAE ($3.7M). So if the Suns plan to keep Payne and Craig it looks like they are going to need to dip significantly into their two exceptions.

Payne could eat up most of the MLE and Craig a chunk of the BAE. It means Jones really won't have much to offer free agents other than minimum vet contracts and a chance for a chip. For example, Payne was offered $7M and Craig $2.5M that would use up all the MLE. The Suns would have the BAE to use on a FA. Or if Craig took the full BAE and Payne $7M for the MLE then that's only $2.5M left of the MLE for free agents.

Does this sound right!??

Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent (aka “Early Bird”) Exception: A team may re-sign its own free agent to a contract with a first-year salary of up to the greater of (a) 175% of the player's salary in the last season of his prior contract, or (b) 105% of the average player salary for the prior season.

We can pay to Cameron Payne in his next contract around $10M per year. No need to use any exception.

But I do not think we will need to pay him that much. Probably $7-8M per year would be enough.

Perfect ... so the average NBA salary is $8.2M ... we can give him up to $8.6M and still have MLE and BAE for Craig and other free agents.

Yeah, I think we are in a great position to retain all our players.

BAE sounds right for Craig.

[suns12345]

Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent (aka “Early Bird”) Exception: A team may re-sign its own free agent to a contract with a first-year salary of up to the greater of (a) 175% of the player's salary in the last season of his prior contract, or (b) 105% of the average player salary for the prior season.

We can pay to Cameron Payne in his next contract around $10M per year. No need to use any exception.

But I do not think we will need to pay him that much. Probably $7-8M per year would be enough.

Perfect ... so the average NBA salary is $8.2M ... we can give him up to $8.6M and still have MLE and BAE for Craig and other free agents.

Yeah, I think we are in a great position to retain all our players.

BAE sounds right for Craig.

whats Nader worth? I assume we try to keep him too if he would take the minimum

[Flying Colors]

Most important upgrades needed is someone better than Dario and Kaminsky.

[bigfoot]

Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent (aka “Early Bird”) Exception: A team may re-sign its own free agent to a contract with a first-year salary of up to the greater of (a) 175% of the player's salary in the last season of his prior contract, or (b) 105% of the average player salary for the prior season.

We can pay to Cameron Payne in his next contract around $10M per year. No need to use any exception.

But I do not think we will need to pay him that much. Probably $7-8M per year would be enough.

Perfect ... so the average NBA salary is $8.2M ... we can give him up to $8.6M and still have MLE and BAE for Craig and other free agents.

Yeah, I think we are in a great position to retain all our players.

BAE sounds right for Craig.

Assuming we keep Payne (less than $8M), Craig (BAE or about $3.7M), and Nader ($?M) we have three open spots to replace Moore, Kaminsky, and Galloway.

Our 2021 rookie will take one of those spots.
Full MLE on another?
Vet min on the final contract.

We will see how much Sarver is willing to spend this summer.

[bigfoot]

Perfect ... so the average NBA salary is $8.2M ... we can give him up to $8.6M and still have MLE and BAE for Craig and other free agents.

Yeah, I think we are in a great position to retain all our players.

BAE sounds right for Craig.

whats Nader worth? I assume we try to keep him too if he would take the minimum

Suns have his bird rights so we can pay him whatever. If the front office thinks he's important then he'll get a little bit more than the vet min.

[RunDogGun]

The worst thing about being good is that there are not many bargains for merch. Everything is overpriced

Back in 13 I got this warm up jacket for 35 bucks. I still use it to this day and it looks awesome.



And this one for 25

I really like that second one. Side note, I have really been wanting to go to Buenos Aires for quite some time now. Are there many travel restrictions right now?

[bwgood77]

So somebody help me out here. From what I gather,

The Suns do not have bird-rights to Craig. Suns are limited to offering him a max of 120% of his current salary or $2M. I think he's gonna get paid a bit more.

The Suns hold the early bird rights to Payne. Suns are limited to offering him a max of 175% of his current salary or $1.9M. He's definitely gonna get paid more.

We could sign either of them with part of the MLE ($9.5M) or BAE ($3.7M). So if the Suns plan to keep Payne and Craig it looks like they are going to need to dip significantly into their two exceptions.

Payne could eat up most of the MLE and Craig a chunk of the BAE. It means Jones really won't have much to offer free agents other than minimum vet contracts and a chance for a chip. For example, Payne was offered $7M and Craig $2.5M that would use up all the MLE. The Suns would have the BAE to use on a FA. Or if Craig took the full BAE and Payne $7M for the MLE then that's only $2.5M left of the MLE for free agents.

Does this sound right!??

Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agent (aka “Early Bird”) Exception: A team may re-sign its own free agent to a contract with a first-year salary of up to the greater of (a) 175% of the player's salary in the last season of his prior contract, or (b) 105% of the average player salary for the prior season.

We can pay to Cameron Payne in his next contract around $10M per year. No need to use any exception.

But I do not think we will need to pay him that much. Probably $7-8M per year would be enough.

Perfect ... so the average NBA salary is $8.2M ... we can give him up to $8.6M and still have MLE and BAE for Craig and other free agents.

Bobby Marks tweeted that we would be able to pay him between $10-$11 million which he thought would be his market value. There are a ton of FA PGs though. The Clips are in the same boat with Reggie Jackson.

But FA PGs include Lowry, Conley, Schroder, Jackson, Dinwiddie, Ball, Graham, Rose, Dragic, McConnell and Payne...at least...plus there will be draftees coming in.

So I don't think the market will be as high as most people think it will be for most of these guys.

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[Calvin Klein]

I really like that second one. Side note, I have really been wanting to go to Buenos Aires for quite some time now. Are there many travel restrictions right now?

Yep. Not the best time to visit at the moment. Most places close early. This thing is hitting Latin America pretty hard at the moment. Maybe in a few months, when summer comes and more people are vaccinated it'll be better.

Why do you wanna come here? I know tourists love it but I'm still curious

[Hitachi77]

What do you guys think CP3 will ask for? Maybe 3 years 90M or more? Sorry if this has been discussed to death. If we get the chip, he will almost certainly get whatever he wants. The price to pay for the first chip.

[Ghost of Kleine]

What do you guys think CP3 will ask for? Maybe 3 years 90M or more? Sorry if this has been discussed to death. If we get the chip, he will almost certainly get whatever he wants. The price to pay for the first chip.

I'm just thinking something around 105/3. Maybe he'll even settle around 93/3, So we can afford at least 1 minor upgrade to the roster??

[Saberestar]

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