Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon

In Len We Trust · Post #481 » by **In Len We Trust** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:58 pm

Did he talk to the media after the most awkward practice of all time?

Calvin Klein · Post #482 » by **Calvin Klein** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:59 pm

Oh ****...this almost has Dwight/SVG awkwardness potential.

gaspar · Post #483 » by **gaspar** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:00 pm

JJ13 wrote:Paul Coro ‏@paulcoro 21s22 seconds ago
Goran Dragic on the Suns front office: "I don't trust them any more."

whoa...strong words straight from Goran

Yes, lets keep him and give him $100M! What a great idea!

JJ13 · Post #484 » by **JJ13** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:00 pm

immediately unfollowing doc rocket...Goran loves PHX huh?

aIvin adams · Post #485 » by **aIvin adams** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:00 pm

batsmasher wrote:OK what the hell is going on? Conflicting insider reports? Goran practising? This is juicy. Let me get some popcorn.

you got to figure that whatever their intentions are, the suns FO is telling ppl in the media the opposite is true also

ideally if you are selling Goran Dragic, you want as many suitors for Goran Dragic as possible. supply and demand

if I'm Ryan, I have one of my interns call up that doofus Gambo and 'leak' the idea that the Suns are considering calling his bluff. then the Suns become a suitor for Goran Dragic. which increases his pricetag.

if houston is offering some **** deal like terrence jones and the knicks second round pick, then it helps to say to them 'make it a first or we'll just go the distance like we did w bledsoe'

harshey1388 · Post #486 » by **harshey1388** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:01 pm

letsgosuns wrote:
harshey1388 wrote:
letsgosuns wrote:I really disagree with what Gambo is saying the Suns should do. http://arizonasports.com/41/1808722/CALL-HIS-BLUFF Keep him and then give him a max contract this offseason? That would be the worst possible thing to to do. Besides the fact that I believe Dragic's agent has made this a point of no return now, giving a non all star point guard who's best year ever was averaging only 20 pts and 6 assists a game 20 million dollars a year for five years is ludicrous.

Dragic is averaging 16 pts, 4 assts, and 4 rbs a game. His overall field goal percentage is good at 50% but his 3pt % is 35.5% and his ft % is only 74.6%. That is a terrible free throw percentage for a point guard. Is a soon to be 29 year old who averages 16, 4, and 4 worth a 100 million dollar contract? I feel like I am in the twilight zone here. What in the world is going on. So what the Suns signed Isaiah Thomas and lost Channing Frye. Bledsoe seems to be doing fine. Thomas has almost the same averages off the bench as Dragic does starting and Thomas plays nearly 8 minutes less per game than Dragic.

This is crazy. You cannot give Dragic five years, 100 million dollars. If people think Bledsoe is overpaid, just wait until you see Dragic getting 20 million a year and not even making an all star team. Now that is insane. Kevin Love is supposed to get a max contract this offseason or next offseason right. Well he has career averages of 19 pts, 12 rbs, and 2.5 asst a game. Dragic's career averages are 12 pts, 4.5 asst, and 2.6 rbs a game. See this difference in statistics for someone who actually puts up max contract statistics versus Dragic? The Suns rewarding Dragic with a max contract after a bad year like he is having and his no leadership, selfish intentions would be a massive mistake.

In all honesty Nash's stats weren't GREAT or too far off Dragic's at 29 when leaving Dallas.

I'm actually still completely unsure of how I feel about all this but just wanted to point out the fact that Nash's numbers were similar... he got to run his own show when he got to Phoenix and started to KILL it!

Regardless of statistics, before Nash came back to Phoenix, he had already made two all star teams and been third team All NBA twice. But even ignoring those awards, he was a completely different player than Dragic and far superior. Furthermore, throwing that at the window, the Suns did not even give Nash a max contract. "As first reported by ESPN.com's Marc Stein on Thursday afternoon, Nash agreed to a six-year package worth more than $65 million -- with the sixth season partially guaranteed and the Suns holding a team option for the full amount in Year 6." http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1833028 A max contract if I remember correctly would have been in the 90 million dollar range in 2004. Suns got Nash for far less than a max. And by doing that, they were able to go out and give Quentin Richardson a 6 year, 45 million dollar contract too. Dragic wants 5 years, 100 million dollars for basically being a really good player last season. See the insanity? It is beyond the realm of possibility why anyone would give him that kind of money unless they are so desperate for a free agent that they would do anything to get him (Lakers and Knicks).

Not disagreeing with you just thought it was interesting. You bring up good points.

Goran isn't worth the max everyone knows it but someone will overpay.

Post #487 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:02 pm

batsmasher wrote:OK what the hell is going on? Conflicting insider reports? Goran practising? This is juicy. Let me get some popcorn.

Conflicting reports everywhere!

Grots · Post #488 » by **Grots** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:02 pm

JJ13 wrote:Paul Coro ‏@paulcoro 21s22 seconds ago
Goran Dragic on the Suns front office: "I don't trust them any more."

whoa...strong words straight from Goran

Thanks, Goran. Killing your trade value and now badmouthing the FO in public.

:noway:

JTrain · Post #489 » by **JTrain** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:02 pm

BallLikeYao wrote:
rottenbanana36 wrote:
BallLikeYao wrote:hello fellow arizonians im back again with some more insider info from somebody who has a lot of friends...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Thedocrocket/status/568076836292280320[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Thedocrocket/status/568079025094000640[/tweet]

This guy's tweets sounds like the ultimate conspiracy theory.. Dragic is going to do everything possible to screw the Rockets and is willing to sacrifice 1yr at $20M and half of a season to do it? haha I highly doubt that.

He's legit hes proven himself with a bunch of stuff including the Dwight trade. im passing this info along so phx knows whats going on... because all of you still think Woj is spewing out accurate info. Nobody really knows what the truth is now with Goran being a diva and his agent misdirecting everything. It looks like he's sticking it to the Suns and Rockets.. POS ruined your chances of ever getting anything good out of a trade. to reinstate.. gorans list of teams interested in is FALSE, MISDIRECTION, BS, NOT TRUE

Unless you put forth a coherent theory, you might as well be doing interpretive dance.

In Len We Trust · Post #490 » by **In Len We Trust** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:03 pm

JJ13 wrote:Paul Coro ‏@paulcoro 21s22 seconds ago
Goran Dragic on the Suns front office: "I don't trust them any more."

whoa...strong words straight from Goran

Holy ****. What made him go that far!?

RaisingArizona · Post #491 » by **RaisingArizona** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:03 pm

Grots wrote:
JJ13 wrote:Paul Coro ‏@paulcoro 21s22 seconds ago
Goran Dragic on the Suns front office: "I don't trust them any more."

whoa...strong words straight from Goran

Thanks, Goran. Killing your trade value and now badmouthing the FO in public.

He's not who we thought he was.

Calvin Klein · Post #492 » by **Calvin Klein** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:04 pm

Who would have thought back in 2008/09 that our second round pick would end up in this mess we are seeing today??

harshey1388 · Post #493 » by **harshey1388** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:05 pm

In Len We Trust wrote:
JJ13 wrote:Paul Coro ‏@paulcoro 21s22 seconds ago
Goran Dragic on the Suns front office: "I don't trust them any more."

whoa...strong words straight from Goran

Holy ****. What made him go that far!?

Maybe the FO kept telling him the role won't change, we'll deal IT, etc. and none of that has happened.

He's burning it all down!

JTrain · Post #494 » by **JTrain** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:05 pm

El_Fuego wrote:What's done is done. Goran should get traded. He's not worth a max contract anyway, and some idiot is probably going to offer it to him this off-season. I just hope McD gets something worthy in return. I wish Goran best in the future, who know, he might just end his career in Phoenix.

I still want Thomas out too tho. For whatever. And if possible, I want him traded to western conference playoff team. That might be the best chance for Suns to sneak into the playoffs.

I feel like the only chance to sneak into the playoffs is if KD and Westbrook collide hard in practice.

kennydorglas · Post #495 » by **kennydorglas** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:06 pm

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
That's our golden boy

Just be yourself now, Draggy.

In Len We Trust · Post #496 » by **In Len We Trust** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:06 pm

How much could I get for a signed Dragic jersey??

El_Fuego · Post #497 » by **El_Fuego** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:06 pm

aIvin adams wrote:
El_Fuego wrote:What's done is done. Goran should get traded. He's not worth a max contract anyway, and some idiot is probably going to offer it to him this off-season. I just hope McD gets something worthy in return. I wish Goran best in the future, who know, he might just end his career in Phoenix.

I still want Thomas out too tho. For whatever. And if possible, I want him traded to western conference playoff team. That might be the best chance for Suns to sneak into the playoffs.

just so we're clear, here... you do know this is irrational hate, right?

i mean i would understand your decision to irrationally hate on IT, even if i didn't agree with it. but you do recognize tha'ts what this is, right?

Of course I do. I was only half serious there.

gaspar · Post #498 » by **gaspar** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:06 pm

Please, tell me more how classy Goran Dragic is...

BallLikeYao · Post #499 » by **BallLikeYao** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:07 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:
Grots wrote:
JJ13 wrote:Paul Coro ‏@paulcoro 21s22 seconds ago
Goran Dragic on the Suns front office: "I don't trust them any more."

whoa...strong words straight from Goran

Thanks, Goran. Killing your trade value and now badmouthing the FO in public.

He's not who we thought he was.

Been saying this for a day now. Will keep you guys posted with more info on him as DM is still interested in Dragic.
Anything can happen at this point

MilotheSlayer · Post #500 » by **MilotheSlayer** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:08 pm

I think the lack of trust comes from the FO stating players were on the block and they were looking to upgrade. Dragic never got the commitment that he wanted. All while the FO was waiting for Dragic to commit to them. Madness ensues, and we end up with a pissed Goran and are trading him. It'd be a hell of a story if they don't pull the trigger by tomorrow.