Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs

[pidi]

see, this is maybe the greatest time of the year, i can see a pj tucker trade because we can now insult a young stud into the starting line up. warren should start!

[Qwigglez]

I'm not saying I would do this, but would you guys trade Kieff and Len for Love? I don't think I would just because I think Len will be a monster at least in 2016/17 season

[starbosa10]

so what's the latest?

[Qwigglez]

I guarantee Warren won't start beginning of the season. Maybe come December he might start, depending on how well we are playing. If we are clicking on all cylinders I'd say Warren sits the bench with Len as our go-to guys.

[schnakenpopanz]

Comparing Nash stats to Bledsoe is pointless. While Nash is doing these out of speed creativity and style of play, Bledsoe's turnovers are pure lack of control and no bball iq.

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[Qwigglez]

Comparing Nash stats to Bledsoe is pointless. While Nash is doing these out of speed creativity and style of play, Bledsoe's turnovers are pure lack of control and no bball iq.

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True. I do think with Chandler in the lineup Bledsoe/Knight should be able to average 15 assist a night. Would actually think Bled could have averaged more if we didn't run this iso-crap all the time.

[pidi]

for me, len is untouchable.. we just signed a very good mentor just for alex len..

[Mr-Al]

I think that's a no brainer in terms of what we need. We'd get both rebounding and spacing from Anderson. Both have history of injuries though. Let's see how desperate NO is to shed salary, and hopefully this is a doable trade which allows us to keep as many assets as we can.

ummm

Gallo shoots better

Gallo passes better

Gallo scores more per36

Gallo has more offensive win shares

Gallo has more defensive win shares

Gallo gets to the free throw line more

Gallo is a better defender

Gallo gets more steals

Gallo has a higher PER

Gallo has a better at DRB%


Lets see what Anderson does better:

He has a higher ORB%

Anderson is so one-dimensional it hurts, Gallo always had the tools to be a star and just had bad luck, guy is only 26 and still has a lot of time. Anderson should be the option if every Gallo deal doesn't work out. Unlikely, but if you can get him and keep Kieff, your miles less mediocre than if you had Anderson

I never suggested moving Markieff for either. I still think Anderson would be better at the four in our system than Galo would be at the four in our system. Anderson had an off year shooting the three at 34%, but the four previous years he was between 38-40% from there. Galo's best year was at the bottom of that at 38% at that was a few years ago.

Anderson is a better rebounder, so I really don't see how my thought of better spacing and rebounding would be off, when Anderson has on average over a five year period better three point shooting (spacing) and has rebounded better.

Oh well, not worth it enough to argue if my opinion is better than yours. Both have injury issues, I guess the question would be which was easily fixable, and which one we might not be able to return to form. Anderson is only a year removed from being a 19.8/6.5 player. Could be nice to mix with Warren and Len if we felt Morris was playing or fit better. I think we have enough guys that can play the three still.

Lastly, Ryan cost about $3 million less, so it would be easier to give up less to get Anderson. We could send out less and keep more of our player assets, especially if NO is looking to salary dump.

valid points

[Revived]

Wonder if Chicago moves a big after drafting Portis. I'd love mirotic but I think the bulls love him too and he's not going anywhere. Taj Gibson seems like most likely guy to be on the block. Wonder what the price tag would be? I wouldn't pay a ton for Taj but at the right price he'd be a solid pickup.

I'd do tucker and a 2nd rounder for him. Saves Chicago some money and gives them another wing defender. Then the suns could use the little bit of left over cap space to find a 3 and d sf in free agency.

I've wanted Taj here for a while as well and yes, I think him paired with Chandler would improve our defense so much while not hurting the offense that much either. Kieff can go back to playing the role in which he excelled which was the 6th man off the bench where his defense and rebounding deficiencies aren't as obvious.

[King4Day]

I'm not saying I would do this, but would you guys trade Kieff and Len for Love? I don't think I would just because I think Len will be a monster at least in 2016/17 season

I wouldn't. Not with Len involved. It would be intriguing to see Chandler next to Love however. I think the Cavs would do it though. It'd give them cap space and more depth at Center.

[King4Day]

Interesting, but we signed Josh Harrellson to the summer league team. He's played with both Bledsoe and Knight while on Kentucky, and he played with Chandler in NYK.

I think his nickname was 'Jorts' because he used to wear jean shorts.
I always thought he'd have a better career than he is.

[carey]

I'm not saying I would do this, but would you guys trade Kieff and Len for Love? I don't think I would just because I think Len will be a monster at least in 2016/17 season

Hard to answer. This is one of those questions where only the front office knows Len's value. I would trade the Len I saw finish the year (who had regressed both on offense and defense) & Markieff for Love. However, I have not seen what he's been doing all Summer. He looks noticeably bigger and if he has improved significantly it becomes a tough call.

[carey]

Any word on Alec Brown and whether he's got a shot?

Have you seen his D-League highlights? Kid has a long ways to go. His shooting is starting to translate a little but everything else is not yet ready for the NBA.

[gaspar]

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[carey]

I've narrowed down our trade targets:

http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/depth-charts/nba.aspx

Why are Kendall Marshall & John Salmons listed on our roster when most rosters are up to date?

[JMac1]

On Bledsoe's behalf, he does get a lot of turnovers because he gets absolutely zero calls. A lot of times he is trying to draw contact, but the refs screws him over and he then turns the ball over.......bull crap!

[TASTIC]

I don't know why but I feel McD sees Len as tradeable now.

Like it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was shipped to the Celtics for like Sullinger and a pick or two...

[TASTIC]

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He's not a bad player that Hamilton - he had some good games for the Wolves when they were banged up last season.

Not a starter but he could be a 20-25min guy with his size and shooting touch.

Look when he got minutes last year:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hamilju01/gamelog/2015/#pgl_basic::9

11 games playing at least 28min, averaging 11.4pts 6.3reb 2.3ast 1.4stl 1.3blk 0.5 3s and 50/76 shooting splits. Very active...Of course the Wolves only won ONE of those 11 games! But they landed the top pick

[DRK]

I don't know why but I feel McD sees Len as tradeable now.

Like it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was shipped to the Celtics for like Sullinger and a pick or two...

Highly doubt it. Len and TJ are the future of this team. Len was a revelation last season, and McD would be stupid to move him now IMO. Skilled and mobile 7 foot big men dont grow on trees.

[TASTIC]

I don't know why but I feel McD sees Len as tradeable now.

Like it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was shipped to the Celtics for like Sullinger and a pick or two...

Highly doubt it. Len and TJ are the future of this team. Len was a revelation last season, and McD would be stupid to move him now IMO. Skilled and mobile 7 foot big men dont grow on trees.

I'm not saying I'd do it, but I wouldn't be surprised if McD pulled a trade like that. Sullinger is a legit starting 4 in this league...He'd also fit perfectly alongside Chandler and it would allow us to keep Kieff as 6th man, or trade him later for wing help.

I really feel for Len, he's busted his arse and when healthy showed he's a double double guy who's shown he can be an elite shot-blocker in this league, then we set his development (and confidence most likely) right back.