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Draft Thread Part 2

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If we keep the 4th pick, who do you want to take?

Bender
57
51%
Brown
15
14%
Chriss
8
7%
Dunn
6
5%
Ellenson
4
4%
Hield
11
10%
Murray
10
9%
 
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#481 » by bwgood77 » Sat May 14, 2016 2:51 am

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The All-Go-Back-To-School Team: Melo Trimble, Nigel Hayes, Caleb Swanigan, Marcus Lee, Dedric Lawson, Troy Williams, Justin Jackson

https://mobile.twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/731255894449721348

Former Kansas foward Cheick Diallo will sign with an agent and enter the NBA draft, he told ESPN’s Jeff Goodman on Friday.

Diallo is a great option at #28.

We do not have that type of player on our roster...he would be an energy big coming from the bench for hustle, defense and rebounding.


Based on what? He only averaged 7 minutes a game at Kansas in the 27 games he played.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#482 » by darealjuice » Sat May 14, 2016 2:59 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
The All-Go-Back-To-School Team: Melo Trimble, Nigel Hayes, Caleb Swanigan, Marcus Lee, Dedric Lawson, Troy Williams, Justin Jackson

https://mobile.twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/731255894449721348

Former Kansas foward Cheick Diallo will sign with an agent and enter the NBA draft, he told ESPN’s Jeff Goodman on Friday.

Diallo is a great option at #28.

We do not have that type of player on our roster...he would be an energy big coming from the bench for hustle, defense and rebounding.


Based on what? He only averaged 7 minutes a game at Kansas in the 27 games he played.

He was impressive in the combine scrimmages the last 2 days. Can't say I'd seen him play that well at Kansas, he always looked lost for Self.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#483 » by ATTL » Sat May 14, 2016 3:16 am

I think diallo would have had a better showing had he gone to Kentucky.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#484 » by MrMiyagi » Sat May 14, 2016 6:10 am

Oh god, Diallo at 28 could be our new Archie. A late boom or bust pick that everyone is pissed at when they don't boom.....
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#485 » by Blackification » Sat May 14, 2016 6:21 am

MrMiyagi wrote:Oh god, Diallo at 28 could be our new Archie. A late boom or bust pick that everyone is pissed at when they don't boom.....

Theres no way we are keeping all three picks right? We have too many young guys as it is. I expect some of these picks to get packaged or traded for future picks or something
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Post#486 » by Saberestar » Sat May 14, 2016 7:47 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
Former Kansas foward Cheick Diallo will sign with an agent and enter the NBA draft, he told ESPN’s Jeff Goodman on Friday.

Diallo is a great option at #28.

We do not have that type of player on our roster...he would be an energy big coming from the bench for hustle, defense and rebounding.


Based on what? He only averaged 7 minutes a game at Kansas in the 27 games he played.


NBA Draft Combine notes: Cheick Diallo's stock is soaring despite ugly NCAA career.

Diallo, who came to the U.S. almost four years ago from Mali and became a student at Our Savior New American, a private high school in Centereach, N.Y., was ruled ineligible to play for Kansas at the beginning of the year after a clumsy NCAA eligibility investigation, which the organization essentially dropped five games into the season.

Diallo never really recovered from the time he missed, though. He averaged 3.0 points and 2.5 rebounds last season, playing just 7.5 minutes per game.

The good news for Diallo, who had been a Top 10 recruit when he committed to Kansas a little more than a year ago, is that he came away as one of the week’s big winners, impressing NBA executives with his wingspan (7-4.5, second longest at the combine) and shot-blocking potential. Until recently, Diallo was considered a fringe first-rounder. Now he should be solidly in the middle of the draft.

“I don’t think there is any question,” one front-office executive told Sporting News. “He is a first-rounder. Good motor, gets up and down real easy. You see the way (Bismack) Biyombo has helped Toronto, he can have that kind of impact and give a little more offensively.”

The Celtics were said to have interest in Diallo, possibly with the No. 23 pick, but there’s a chance he won’t be on the board at that point. Diallo stressed that rim protection is his strength, and after interviewing with them this week, he said the Celtics told him that’s what they were looking for.

“They was asking me, (they would) like some player who can protect the rim,” Diallo said. “I said, ‘Yeah, that’s a job I like to do."

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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#487 » by bwgood77 » Sun May 15, 2016 4:26 pm

gaspar wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/si_nba/status/730553493631553538[/tweet]
great read


I had already picked Ingram in our poll, but that article REALLY makes me think we should pick him. If we did take Simmons, we REALLY need to have floor spreaders EVERYWHERE ELSE.

I guess you could say with Knight truly being more of a shooter, and Booker, if they strictly operated at floor stretchers, and Simmons was the ball handler, that could work, with TJ and and Telly (if we have him), that COULD work, especially since Bledsoe is injury prone. But if Bledsoe and Knight continued their ball dominating ways, it would almost render Simmons useless except as a rebounder. When he DID get the ball, it would often be in a hockey assist type of way where he passed it off to someone else for the shot. I just don't know that many defenders would follow him too far away from the rim, which would really hurt the offense.

Of course I won't be disappointed if we end up with Simmons, but I'd really hope he learned to shoot with range.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#488 » by Saberestar » Mon May 16, 2016 6:11 pm

“From what I can tell, there are 30 potential NBA rotation players sitting there in the 15-45 range,” one general manager told The Vertical in Chicago. “What this class lacks in star power it more than makes up for with depth.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-lessons-of-the-nba-draft-combine-155949876.html

That is why I would like to have three rookies on the roster next season.

I know that McDonough said that we are going to have probably no more than two rookies because it's really difficult to compete with so many young players and all of that.... but I prefer to have another rookie over a veteran on a third string role at any position.

Another good reason to have three rookies...
Rookie-scale deals won't increase with rising cap so teams may be reluctant to move picks in 2016 NBA Draft. Rookies are best bang for buck
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#489 » by MathiasPW » Mon May 16, 2016 10:30 pm

Well, anything GMs say at this time must he seen through another prisma.

This is probably a GM with one or more picks in late lotto trying to make his assets look nice for a trade (like Boston, Suns or Denver)
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#490 » by No-Man » Mon May 16, 2016 10:32 pm

Well, my top6 as of now is pretty cemented and set,

Ingram
Simmons
Bender
Dunn
Baldwin
Luwawu

The problem is, if you stay at 4 and the top3 are out of the board, do you go with the higher rated PG, that could end up playing as combos btw, or do you get Luwawu who's rating is not much lower than those guys and fits easier with the current core.

I think I'd give PHX Luwawu as of now, but it is a fair call.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#491 » by bwgood77 » Mon May 16, 2016 10:50 pm

Fischella wrote:Well, my top6 as of now is pretty cemented and set,

Ingram
Simmons
Bender
Dunn
Baldwin
Luwawu

The problem is, if you stay at 4 and the top3 are out of the board, do you go with the higher rated PG, that could end up playing as combos btw, or do you get Luwawu who's rating is not much lower than those guys and fits easier with the current core.

I think I'd give PHX Luwawu as of now, but it is a fair call.


We trade down. SOMEONE will really want either Murray or Hield and we would be best served to trade down and get something in the process. I think there is a fairly reasonable chance Bender drops to wherever we pick though, even if it is as low as 6 or 7, as I mentioned here...

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Jarlaxle0204 wrote:Simmons, Ingram, Bender. In that order. If we don't get one of those guys with our first pick, I really don't care who we pick or even if we trade it.


I do think there is a good chance that even if we drop down to 5 or 6, and 5th is the most likely place we will draft, that Bender will be there, because LA has kind of said they will trade their pick if they keep it, and I can't see Philly taking Bender if they drop to 3 or 4 or have two picks because they have 3 centers AND Saric already. They will take guard(s). And Boston needs shooting and probably wants a guy that can help their competitive team now, and with IT having only a year left, a guy like Murray makes sense considering Smart isn't that good of a shooter.

It would have to be another random team jumping to 3rd that might take Bender. Minny could, but they could also go with Dunn or Murray, or even Hield, since they need perimeter shooting and/or possibly a good backup for Rubio (or potential replacement for him in the future).

I think New Orleans, Denver, Sacramento or Toronto would all go guard, and probably Milwaukee.

I think he might slide, perhaps (in the worst case scenario that three teams jump us) even to 7, and for no other reason than the fact that most of those teams need guards. Minnesota would be the big question mark, but they are pretty close to being ready to compete, so if they want a big they might go with someone like Ellenson who may contribute more. Plus Ellenson is from up north and University of Minnesota was really after him.


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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#492 » by No-Man » Mon May 16, 2016 10:54 pm

trading down is difficult, I highly doubt any teams trades up with Hield or Murray in mind honestly.
I'd just pick Luwawu most likely.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#493 » by saintEscaton » Mon May 16, 2016 11:23 pm

I think thats a little too high for Luwawu who's stock has been wildly fluctuating according to reports, he could realistically fall out of the lottery if a team doesn't take a flier on him early. on I like him as a versatile jack of all trades 3&D wing, but I don''t see anything that stands out. He will have trouble creating his own shot off hte dribble and changing directions as a slasher, the balls seems to slow him down. He also is an inconsistent finisher around the rim and doesn't get to the line much and he's also 21. I'd rather go with Dunn w if that scencario plays out, I think he has the highest floor of any prospect, he is an immediate starter from day 1. Bledsoe needs to be dealt ASAP before his value depreciates further, hopefully he has suitors now that the league requires full injury disclosure after the Jrue Holiday heist
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#494 » by bwgood77 » Tue May 17, 2016 12:01 am

saintEscaton wrote:I think thats a little too high for Luwawu who's stock has been wildly fluctuating according to reports, he could realistically fall out of the lottery if a team doesn't take a flier on him early. on I like him as a versatile jack of all trades 3&D wing, but I don''t see anything that stands out. He will have trouble creating his own shot off hte dribble and changing directions as a slasher, the balls seems to slow him down. He also is an inconsistent finisher around the rim and doesn't get to the line much and he's also 21. I'd rather go with Dunn w if that scencario plays out, I think he has the highest floor of any prospect, he is an immediate starter from day 1. Bledsoe needs to be dealt ASAP before his value depreciates further, hopefully he has suitors now that the league requires full injury disclosure after the Jrue Holiday heist


Of the 4-5 sources I've looked at, his range ranks from 14-33. Yeah, 4 seems like a bit of a reach.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#495 » by bwgood77 » Tue May 17, 2016 12:31 am

With the NBA draft combine done, i's time for a significant update to our Big Board. We have a lot of new info on the prospects, and some movement in the lottery and elsewhere on the board.

The general consensus is that after the first 10 picks are off the board, there is a lot of parity -- a lot.

It was challenging to come up with a consensus ranking, given the various opposing opinions out there. Teams see that next tier of players as rotation-type prospects and that means they'll be relying more on fit and specific skill sets than overall talent.

Players ranked in the teens could, under certain circumstances, fall into the late 20s or early 30s. And players currently projected to go in the second round could still end up in the first.

Remember that the evaluation process isn't over. NBA teams will begin workouts with prospects, and the looming May 25 deadline for college players to return to school and June 10 deadline for international players to withdraw might still have significant implications.

Our board has the latest intel on how NBA teams see the top NBA prospects, based on conversations with NBA general managers and scouts.

1. Ben Simmons

Previous rank: No. 1
LSU
Freshman
Forward

Simmons didn't show up for anything at the combine. No measurements, interviews, drills, 5-on-5 games or athletic testing. He didn't even do the medical.

I spoke to numerous NBA executives and the majority still believe he's the best player in the draft and the favorite to be picked first on draft night.

Once we see who actually wins the lottery on Tuesday night, we'll have an even better feel for his odds of going No. 1.

2. Brandon Ingram

Previous rank: No. 2
Duke
Freshman
Forward

Ingram showed up at the combine in Chicago but only did interviews.

One team official told me Ingram's interview was a home run. He was asked by the head coach to come up and diagram a last-second play for himself. He confidently walked to the white board and diagrammed a "heck of a play," according to the official.

"He's more than long arms and a jump shot," he said. "He's got a really good feel for the game."

Ingram has closed some of the gap between himself and Simmons overall, and some teams now think he's the best prospect in the draft. Again, Tuesday's draft lottery outcome should give us a better idea of whether he has done enough to overcome Simmons.

3. Jamal Murray

Previous rank: No. 3
Kentucky
Freshman
Guard

Murray's participation at the combine was limited to interviews. Team officials raved about him in that setting, using words like "mature," "focused," "confident" and "knowledgeable" to describe him.

Most teams seem to be convinced he can make the transition to point guard in the NBA but feel confident he would excel as a 2-guard as well.

"I think he can play both positions, and I think that helps him," one scout said. "He gives teams and coaches some real versatility."

4. Kris Dunn

Previous rank: No. 4
Providence
Junior
Guard

Dunn did measurements and interviews but nothing else at the combine.

He is neck-and-neck with Murray right now to be the first guard off the board. In fact, it's so close that we really could list Murray and Dunn as 3A and 3B.

Teams that prefer Dunn say his defensive abilities and the way he sees the floor make him a better true point guard. If Dunn and Murray were the same age, I think Dunn would get the nod.

5. Dragan Bender

Previous rank: No. 5
Croatia
Age: 18
Forward/center

Bender wasn't at the combine because he's still in Tel Aviv finishing his season with Maccabi.

Bender got on the floor for 14 minutes against Hapoel Eilat on May 3, scoring two points, grabbing four rebounds and blocking two shots. But then he didn't play a minute in a blowout on May 8. For the season he's averaging 5.5 PPG, 2.7 RPG and is shooting 41 percent from 3.

He's expected to come over to the United States for workouts as soon as Maccabi's season ends near the beginning of June.

With a few great workouts he could move his way back into the top three. He has that sort of talent. Meanwhile, teams are frustrated with his lack of minutes this season.

6. Buddy Hield

Previous rank: No. 6
Oklahoma
Senior
Guard

Hield showed up for the first two days of the combine, doing measurements (he was 6-foot-5 in shoes with a 6-foot-9 wingspan) and interviews. Then he took off to his graduation at Oklahoma.

Teams loved his interviews, and he's the best shooter in the draft, which matters in a league prioritizing shooting. Depending on where the ping-pong balls fall Tuesday he could go as high as No. 3. I doubt he slides past No. 6.

7. Henry Ellenson

Previous rank: No. 6
Marquette
Freshman
Forward/center

After Murray, Dunn, Hield and Bender are off the board, we seem to be hitting another tier.

Ellenson, like several above him on this list, participated only in measurements and interviews. His measurements were impressive (6-foot-11½ in shoes with a 7-foot-2¾ and a 9-foot standing reach), making the case that he could be a center in the league.

His shooting will be the big question mark. The stroke looks good, though the ball didn't go in as much as scouts would like. He looks like he's in the No. 5-10 range right now.

8. Marquese Chriss

Previous rank: No. 8
Washington
Freshman
Forward

Chriss did a little more than most of the other top prospects in the camp. Not only did he do measurements and interviews, but he also participated in the athletic testing. He tested as one of the most athletic bigs in the draft (Weber State's Joel Bolomboy was the only one who tested better).

He might have the talent of a top-five pick -- but he's going to have to find a team that will be patient with him. He could go as high as No. 6. Unless he really struggles in workouts, I think it's very unlikely he gets out of the lottery.

9. Jakob Poeltl

Previous rank: No. 9
Utah
Sophomore
Center

In a weak draft for centers, Poeltl certainly measured the part at the combine. He was the second-tallest player measured -- 7-foot-1 in shoes with a 7-foot-2¾ wingspan, though his 8-foot-9½ standing reach was unusually small for a player his size.

Regardless, Poeltl should be the first center off the board and fall in the No. 7-12 range.

10. Jaylen Brown

Previous rank: No. 10
Cal
Freshman
Forward

Brown is the most polarizing player at the top of the draft. He has the athleticism and body of a top-three pick. However, his play at Cal raised serious questions about whether he has the basketball skills to match his physical ones.

His interviews also drew mixed reviews. He's incredibly intelligent, but team officials said he came across as arrogant.

Does he just need more time to develop his game? Is he a power forward stuck in the body of a small forward? These are some of the questions teams are asking.

He could go as high as No. 3. He could also end up in the late teens or early 20s.

11. Skal Labissiere

Previous rank: No. 15
Kentucky
Freshman
Center/forward

Labissiere's biggest moment of the weekend didn't take place at the combine, where he only did interviews and measurements. Instead, it was at a private workout he put on Wednesday night at Roosevelt College.

Labissiere shot the ball very well from NBA 3-point range in a one-on-none workout. Is that good enough to get him drafted in the lottery after a disappointing freshman season at Kentucky? Some GMs say yes. Others no.

He's in the No. 8-20 range right now. It will be interesting to see whether he'll work out against other top prospects.

12. Furkan Korkmaz

Previous rank: No. 15
Turkey
Age: 18
Guard

A coaching change at Anadolu Efes has helped Korkmaz. Not only was he not playing much, he wasn't even getting much of a run in practice -- much to the chagrin of NBA scouts who were traveling to Turkey.

Since the coaching change, Korkmaz has been averaging nearly 20 MPG, getting a great run in practice and impressing the scouts who have been visiting. He's only averaging 2.7 PPG for the season (in 8.0 MPG), but he is shooting 42 percent from 3.

With so few real shooters in this draft and Korkmaz reaching a buyout that allows him to come to the NBA this summer, I think he's going to land somewhere in the lottery.

13. Malachi Richardson

Previous rank: No. 20
Syracuse
Freshman
Guard

As I chronicled last week, Richardson's stock is red hot at the moment. His measurements (as the only player shorter than 6-foot-6 with a 7-foot-0 wingspan), athletic testing (38-inch max vertical) and interviews all went well.

Some teams believe that he's the best 2-guard prospect in the draft after Hield, and that he has the rare ability to get his shot anywhere on the floor. His range is now from No. 12-20.

14. Denzel Valentine

Previous rank: No. 13
Michigan State
Senior
Forward/guard

Valentine impressed in interviews and had good measurements (including a crazy-long 6-foot-10¾ wingspan), but he unsurprisingly struggled in most of his athletic testing.

Will his decision-making, passing, shooting ability and production at Michigan State trump his athletic limitations? Most scouts think they will. He should land somewhere in the No. 12-20 range.

15. Domantas Sabonis

Previous rank: No. 12
Gonzaga
Sophomore
Forward

Sabonis was a no-show at the combine. Like Simmons, he didn't participate in any part of the event. That raised a lot of eyebrows in the league. Simmons they could understand. But Sabonis?

The speculation -- and to be clear, that's all it is -- is that he might have been given a guarantee somewhere in the first round from a team if he would skip the combine.

If we don't see Sabonis in workouts over the next few weeks, it's probably solid speculation. He's in the No. 10-20 range on most boards.

16. Deyonta Davis

Previous rank: No. 14
Michigan State
Freshman
Forward

Davis was another polarizing prospect at the combine. He measured well (6-foot-10½ in shoes with a 7-foot-2½ wingspan and a 9-foot-½ standing reach) and his interviews were solid, but a number of teams really thought he should've at least participated in the athletic testing.

Teams see him as a bit of a blank slate. The physical tools are there and defensively he has the chance to be really good. But offensively? There are big questions.

Again, there's a wide range for prospects in this part of the draft. No. 10-20 seems like the range for him right now.

17. Tyler Ulis

Previous rank: No. 17
Kentucky
Sophomore
Guard

Ulis also surprised scouts by opting out of everything but the measurements and interviews. His measurements were about what people expected (5-foot-10 in shoes, 6-foot-2 wingspan), but his weight (149 pounds) was 13 pounds lighter than the next closest participant (Marcus Paige).

Teams did love his interviews and feel that, based on pure talent (disregarding size), he's the best point guard prospect in the draft.

But where does he land? Some teams were adamant that they would not draft a guard his size. Others seemed very interested in him as backup point guard. No. 14-25 looks like the range right now.

18. Malik Beasley

Previous rank: No. 19
Florida State
Freshman
Guard

Beasley also just stuck to interviews and measurements. His measurements didn't really do him any favors. He was 6-foot-4½ in shoes with a 6-foot-7 wingspan. That's a bit undersized for his position.

Teams seemed frustrated that he wasn't doing more. Beasley is banking on the fact that teams need shooters and there aren't a lot of other options in the draft. It's probably a safe bet. He's in the No. 15-25 range right now.

19. Dejounte Murray

Previous rank: No. 16
Washington
Freshman
Guard

Murray was our lowest-ranked prospect in the first round to skip everything at the combine. Like Sabonis, his absence raised major questions from teams. The dominant theory from their end is that Murray might have received a first-round guarantee from a team and will be sitting out workouts. Time will tell.

If he doesn't show up to team workouts, he's likely already locked up his draft spot.

20. Wade Baldwin IV

Previous rank: N/A
Vanderbilt
Sophomore
Guard

Baldwin had a good week despite skipping the drills and 5-on-5. His measurements (6-foot-4 in shoes with a 6-foot-11¼ wingspan) were terrific for a point guard. So was his athletic testing (38-inch vertical, 10.45-second lane agility). And in interviews he did a good job of answering questions teams had about his leadership on the court and in the locker room.

Based on talent, he should probably be 10 spots higher. But for now we'll put him in the No. 15-25 range. Strong workouts could raise that ceiling, though.

21. DeAndre Bembry

Previous rank: No. 24
St. Joseph's
Junior
Guard/forward

Bembry was the highest-ranked player on our board to participate in everything at the combine, and it was his play in the 5-on-5 that caused him to rise a few spots here.

Bembry's feel for the game, playmaking ability at his size and athleticism (38-inch max vertical and great scores in the speed drills) are the big appeals. One team said he's the best passer in this draft next to Simmons and could see time at point guard in the NBA.

His streaky jump shot is the big question mark for him. He's in the No. 15-25 range.

22. Ante Zizic

Previous rank: No. 21
Croatia
Age: 19
Center

Zizic is having a monster season for Cibona in the Croatian league, averaging 17.7 PPG, 10.2 RPG and 1.3 BPG in 28 MPG. He's on a young team and is clearly getting more playing time and touches than a normal 19-year-old, but his rebounding numbers, in particular, make him an attractive big man candidate.

His toughness, motor and offensive rebounding are the main reasons some teams are so attracted to him. But will he ever show enough skill offensively to be more than an energy guy off the bench in the NBA?

23. Demetrius Jackson

Previous rank: No. 23
Notre Dame
Junior
Guard

Jackson skipped the 5-on-5 and drills but wowed in the athletic testing with an incredible 43.5-inch vertical. He also aced the interviews portion of the combine. Many teams said he was one of the two or three best interviews they had all week.

He lacks elite size for his position (6-foot-1¾ in shoes with a 6-foot-5½ wingspan) and some teams question his aggressiveness offensively, but there a number of Jackson fans out there. Look for him to land somewhere between No. 15 and 25.

24. Thon Maker

Previous rank: No. 26
Australia
Age: 19
Forward

Consider this a placeholder for Maker. It's still too early to know exactly where to place him on our board.

He did only interviews, measurements and athletic testing at the combine, but he aced all three. He measured as the third-tallest player in the draft (7-foot-¾ in shoes with a 7-foot-3 wingspan), tested in the top-four athletically for big men (35½-inch max vertical) and had stellar interviews.

Teams were blown away by his intelligence, depth and background story. However, until teams see him on the court against other prospects, it's very hard to place him.

25. Ivica Zubac

Previous rank: N/A
Bosnia
Age: 19
Center

Zubac was a hot name at the combine, with several scouts (though not the majority) claiming he was the third-best international prospect in the draft.

Zubac started the season in Cibona, playing behind Zizic and averaging 7.2 PPG and 3.0 RPG. He now has changed teams to Mega Leks in Serbia and has shown more game, averaging 12 PPG and 5.7 RPG in 22.7 MPG.

Zubac is in many ways the opposite of Zizic. He excels offensively as an old-school low-post player. But his heavy feet and lack of rebounding do raise some concerns, as well as a history of foot and knee injuries. Still, in a draft lacking real center options, he's looking more and more like a lock for the first round.

26. Ben Bentil

Previous rank: No. 22
Providence
Sophomore
Forward

Bentil also had a strong week. He measured a legitimate 6-foot-8¼ in shoes with a 7-foot-1½ wingspan and a 8-foot-9 standing reach. Those aren't elite numbers for a power forward, but they aren't that bad either.

He also showed off his scoring prowess in the paint and from beyond the arc in the 5-on-5 games.

He's another polarizing prospect. Some teams feel big men who can really score are a rarity in the draft. Others feel he's too selfish with the ball. His range, like that of virtually every other prospect left on our board, is No. 20 to 40.

27. Patrick McCaw

Previous rank: N/A
UNLV
Sophomore
Guard

McCaw was the second-highest-ranked prospect on our board to participate in the 5-on-5. Once again, the decision to play helped his stock. While he didn't move the needle much in the first game, he was fantastic in the second game, scoring 14 points, dishing out four assists and picking up a couple of steals.

McCaw is another one of those playmaking wings who see the floor well and can guard multiple positions. His measurements (6-foot-6¾ in shoes, 6-foot-10 wingspan), athletic testing numbers (38-inch vertical) and shooting drill performance (13-for-25 from NBA 3-point range) were all impressive. He needs to get stronger, but his case for being a first-round prospect grew considerably here. He's now in the No. 20-40 range.

28. Cheick Diallo

Previous rank: N/A
Kansas
Freshman
Forward

Diallo was the big winner at the combine. He measured with a terrific 7-foot-4½ wingspan and a 35-inch vertical, and when he got on the floor he looked like the prospect we once had ranked as a potential top-10 pick. He was active on both ends, rebounded, blocked shots, defended and even showed off a few nice offensive moves.

He's still raw. He'll struggle some in a rigid offensive system, but he's the type of guy who clearly looks better now than he showed at Kansas. It's very hard to project his range, but No. 20-40 seems fair.

If he keeps playing well at workouts, he has a chance to exceed that range.

29. Juan Hernangomez

Previous rank: N/A
Spain
Age: 20
Forward

Hernangomez (the brother of Willy Hernangomez, who was selected in the second round of the 2015 draft) has drawn interest from NBA teams primarily for his ability to be a stretch-4 in the NBA.

He's averaging 9.8 PPG and 5.6 RPG in 22 MPG for Estudiantes. But the stat that teams are watching closely is his 38 percent shooting percentage from 3. He also excels in the pick-and-roll, another important talent for 4s in the NBA now.

There are several other international players who could get past him, including two just outside our top 30. He's also in the No. 20-40 range.

30. Diamond Stone

Previous rank: No. 18
Maryland
Freshman
Center

Teams questioned Stone's decision to participate only in the interviews, measurements and athletic testing. While there are some teams that have him in the mid-first round, there are others that have him in the second.

Stone's measurements were solid (6-foot-10¼ in shoes, 7-foot-2¾ wingspan and 9-foot-½ standing reach) but shorter than previously reported. Unsurprisingly, his athletic testing numbers were among the worst in the draft (29-inch max vertical).

Ten years ago, Stone's advanced skill set in the paint would've made him a lock for the lottery, but in the evolving NBA he's a pretty big question mark. He's in the No. 20-40 range.

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Jarrod Uthoff, F, Sr., Iowa; Brice Johnson, PF, Sr., North Carolina; Timothe Luwawu, G/F, France: Guerschon Yabusele, PF, France; Chinanu Onuaku, C, So., Louisville


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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#496 » by darealjuice » Tue May 17, 2016 2:41 am

Malachi Richardson at 13 and Wade Baldwin IV at 20 really throwing me off, although rumor is Baldwin didn't do well in interviews. But Richardson was an end-of-the-first-rounder or second rounder before the combine, and he didn't me wow anywhere near enough in the scrimmages to jump from there into the lottery.
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Re: 2016 Draft 

Post#497 » by Damkac » Tue May 17, 2016 9:09 am

I hope Suns get Ingram or Bender. Both will be great long and versatile players I think if only they add some muscles. Simmons scares me. He took THREE 3pt shoots alll season. If he would be traditional big man that may be acceptable but he is perimeter player. Will he be able to drive to the basket if defenders won't even bother to guard him behind the line?
I don't want to add another guard but 3pt shooting is so important that drafing Murray or Hield may not be the worst thing. If Suns get Dunn then Bledsoe needs to go. They are to similar to keep them both.
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Post#498 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue May 17, 2016 9:14 am

Hope today sets us up for the next 10 years.
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Post#499 » by Skillmatic » Tue May 17, 2016 9:37 am

The lottery is today right? Does someone here know the exact time? Thanks :D
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Post#500 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue May 17, 2016 9:41 am

Think it's 8pm East Coast.

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