NBA Draft and NCAA Basketball

darealjuice · Post #481 » by **darealjuice** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:06 am

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Two guys I wouldn't mind seeing in a Suns jersey played each other today

Mulhollanddrive · Post #482 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:20 am

Bagley is putting up monster double-doubles, still needs a reliable jumper to become a star at NBA level.

Post #483 » by **ATTL** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:22 am

darealjuice wrote:

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Two guys I wouldn't mind seeing in a Suns jersey played each other today

Bagley has great footwork and might have the fastest second jump for a big I've seen in years. He's like a 6'10" Shawn Marion.
Bamba is so long. That 5th foul was bull, Trent fouled bamba with his off arm in the face of bamba.

If we can get one of ayton, Bagley, or bamba we should consider ourselves lucky and not complain. All 3 could be 15 year starters for us day 1 in the league.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #484 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:38 am

The best position we can hope for is probably 4th lottery spot.

Writing off - Chicago, Atlanta, Sacramento
Improvers - Brooklyn, Dallas
Stay Away - Lakers, Orlando, Utah, Memphis, Clippers

That would give us the possibility of drafting from a projected 1-6 of Ayton, Doncic, Bagley, Bamba, Porter, Jackson.

bhawk · Post #485 » by **bhawk** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:03 am

Bamba looks really frail. He is easily pushed around like a Manute Bol or Shawn Bradley. Pass. Bet he falls out of the Top 10. Knox is balling.

sunsbg · Post #486 » by **sunsbg** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:49 am

bhawk wrote:Bamba looks really frail. He is easily pushed around like a Manute Bol or Shawn Bradley. Pass. Bet he falls out of the Top 10. Knox is balling.

He is very skinny, but where in the video he gets pushed ? Putting similar stats to Mutombo in his second college season, has some shooting touch - how much are you going to bet ?

RedIndian · Post #487 » by **RedIndian** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:56 pm

I don't know what to make of Bagley. He seems to me a PF version of Josh Jackson.

- Average length
- Very good, but not elite athlete.
- Good, but not elite ball-handling.
- Excellent motor and defensive effort
- Mediocre shooting (shooting 27% on 3Ps, and 55% on FTs)

He's still scoring and rebounding at a very good clip though.

I'm not sure I'd like Bagley and Josh at the 4/3 spots. Skillsets are too similar. I'd want someone with more polish.

My fav picks are still Ayton and Doncic.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #488 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:35 pm

Since 1998 there's only been 5 All-Stars taken at pick 2.

Damkac · Post #489 » by **Damkac** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:55 pm

RedIndian wrote:I don't know what to make of Bagley. He seems to me a PF version of Josh Jackson.

- Average length
- Very good, but not elite athlete.
- Good, but not elite ball-handling.
- Excellent motor and defensive effort
- Mediocre shooting (shooting 27% on 3Ps, and 55% on FTs)

He's still scoring and rebounding at a very good clip though.

I'm not sure I'd like Bagley and Josh at the 4/3 spots. Skillsets are too similar. I'd want someone with more polish.

My fav picks are still Ayton and Doncic.

Also they have the same haircut.

Post #490 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:35 pm

RedIndian wrote:I don't know what to make of Bagley. He seems to me a PF version of Josh Jackson.

- Average length
- Very good, but not elite athlete.
- Good, but not elite ball-handling.
- Excellent motor and defensive effort
- Mediocre shooting (shooting 27% on 3Ps, and 55% on FTs)

He's still scoring and rebounding at a very good clip though.

I'm not sure I'd like Bagley and Josh at the 4/3 spots. Skillsets are too similar. I'd want someone with more polish.

My fav picks are still Ayton and Doncic.

Yeah, I'm not high on Bagley either. We can't get any more non shooters and he doesn't appear to be a big time shooter. I'm for Doncic or Ayton too, then Bamba. I'm not even sure who would be 4th. Maybe Porter if he checks out physically. Jaren Jackson Jr. might be up there high. I wish Miles Bridges was a 4 and not a 3.

RedIndian · Post #491 » by **RedIndian** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:37 pm

I like Jackson Jr. He seems like a Myles Turner in the making.

I also like Wendell Carter a lot. I think he will be a high quality Horford/Millsap level pro for a very long time in the NBA.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #492 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:41 pm

I like Jackson but he has a long way to go offensively to match Turner.

Post #493 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:49 pm

Myles Turner? Sure an 18 year old has a ways to go to be as good as a 3rd year pro, but he's already better than Turner was in college. Shooting much better from 2, about the same from 3. Scoring more per game and per 40. Better DRTG too.

jcsunsfan · Post #494 » by **jcsunsfan** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:43 pm

Ayton sure looks good to me, even in UA losses.

darealjuice · Post #495 » by **darealjuice** » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:23 am

Wtf that Minnesota vs. Alabama game was crazy. Bama's entire bench got ejected and players fouled out, so they were played 3 on 5 the last 10-ish minutes. Insane. Sexton dropped 38 and they almost won the game still.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #496 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:07 am

He only had about 8 points at HT when I checked.

thamadkant · Post #497 » by **thamadkant** » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:58 am

Ayton is PRIMARY target IMO, you need that threat inside who can rebound and bother shots... potentially at an elite level.

Doncic is my second choice, just fielding a team that can play multiple spots and switch is the way to go.

DirtyDez · Post #498 » by **DirtyDez** » Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:05 am

darealjuice wrote:Wtf that Minnesota vs. Alabama game was crazy. Bama's entire bench got ejected and players fouled out, so they were played 3 on 5 the last 10-ish minutes. Insane. Sexton dropped 38 and they almost won the game still.

Booker would make a great sidekick to Sexton. That potential backcourt is definitely worth tanking for.

Post #499 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:10 am

darealjuice wrote:Wtf that Minnesota vs. Alabama game was crazy. Bama's entire bench got ejected and players fouled out, so they were played 3 on 5 the last 10-ish minutes. Insane. Sexton dropped 38 and they almost won the game still.

That's hilarious. I just watched the 2 minute video here showing the situation and what happened to lead to ejection and then how the other two players left, and then they went over the rules...funny how they explain how the rules say when it gets down to only 1 player available to play that team must forfeit unless the referees think that team has a chance to win. How funny would that be?

ESPN shows Sexton had 40.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game?gameId=400986392

Post #500 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:14 am

DirtyDez wrote:
darealjuice wrote:Wtf that Minnesota vs. Alabama game was crazy. Bama's entire bench got ejected and players fouled out, so they were played 3 on 5 the last 10-ish minutes. Insane. Sexton dropped 38 and they almost won the game still.

Booker would make a great sidekick to Sexton. That potential backcourt is definitely worth tanking for.

How high would you take Sexton?

Who would you take at 3 if Ayton/Doncic gone?