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Re: 2020-2021 Dynasty League - Done with main draft - please vote in poll 

Post#481 » by bwgood77 » Wed Dec 9, 2020 9:55 pm

MathiasPW wrote:I just vetoed the Giannis for AD trade because, well, I can and I also want either one or both on my team


Where are our IR spots?
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Re: 2020-2021 Dynasty League - Done with main draft - please vote in poll 

Post#482 » by MathiasPW » Wed Dec 9, 2020 10:22 pm

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MathiasPW wrote:I just vetoed the Giannis for AD trade because, well, I can and I also want either one or both on my team


Where are our IR spots?
Should be there. I've noticed some managers already filled theirs.

I did, however, forget to change it from 2 to 3 for the COVID rule, so I've made that adjustment just now.
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Re: 2020-2021 Dynasty League - Done with main draft - please vote in poll 

Post#483 » by Book1Nation » Wed Dec 9, 2020 10:27 pm

I like the idea of the G-League/practice squad type player but seems a little complicated...either way I’m in

But let’s say I draft a guy like Jahmius Ramsey for example, and in February he starts balling out for the Kings. Averaging 16 ppg, all that. Should someone else not be able to pick him up if they wanted to? Like a real practice squad, they could poach if they wanted to make him active. Idk
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Re: 2020-2021 Dynasty League - Done with main draft - please vote in poll 

Post#484 » by bwgood77 » Wed Dec 9, 2020 10:31 pm

MathiasPW wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
MathiasPW wrote:I just vetoed the Giannis for AD trade because, well, I can and I also want either one or both on my team


Where are our IR spots?
Should be there. I've noticed some managers already filled theirs.

I did, however, forget to change it from 2 to 3 for the COVID rule, so I've made that adjustment just now.


Oh, so they have to say INJ next to their name to go on IL and players listed as O (Out) cannot go on there? That's weird..they can in football. It seems if they were out due to injury they would be allowed to go on there.
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Re: 2020-2021 Dynasty League - Done with main draft - please vote in poll 

Post#485 » by MathiasPW » Wed Dec 9, 2020 10:32 pm

Waiver order has been fixed to (reverse) last year standings (from alphabetical order, for some reason)
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Post#486 » by MathiasPW » Wed Dec 9, 2020 10:35 pm

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MathiasPW wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Where are our IR spots?
Should be there. I've noticed some managers already filled theirs.

I did, however, forget to change it from 2 to 3 for the COVID rule, so I've made that adjustment just now.


Oh, so they have to say INJ next to their name to go on IL and players listed as O (Out) cannot go on there? That's weird..they can in football. It seems if they were out due to injury they would be allowed to go on there.
Yes. Yahoo has always been like this, for basketball at least.
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Re: 2020-2021 Dynasty League - Done with main draft - please vote in poll 

Post#487 » by bwgood77 » Wed Dec 9, 2020 10:35 pm

Golanator wrote:I like the idea of the G-League/practice squad type player but seems a little complicated...either way I’m in

But let’s say I draft a guy like Jahmius Ramsey for example, and in February he starts balling out for the Kings. Averaging 16 ppg, all that. Should someone else not be able to pick him up if they wanted to? Like a real practice squad, they could poach if they wanted to make him active. Idk


Well, I suppose if people wanted to utilize a G league squad, we could allow guys to move up during the season but obviously you'd have to drop someone.

I don't think another team should be able to pick him up though, however, maybe they could trade their's for yours and possibly include a swap of regular players as well.

It might be hard to set this up and/or track this for the commissioner though.
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Re: 2020-2021 Dynasty League - Done with main draft - please vote in poll 

Post#488 » by Desertfox » Wed Dec 9, 2020 11:12 pm

So I've been thinking about how to implement a cap league with the smoothest possible transition, while keeping the what people like about the current structure. So this is what I cam up with, figure I'd throw it out there at least to discuss.

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Cap limit of $100, contract cost tied directly to length, contract used to determine keepers. First year of implementation people give their players contracts as a way of selecting keepers. At the end of contract players automatically become free agents. There would be a rookie draft, and a free agent period:

5 year contract - $20 per year
4 year contract - $15 per year
3 year contract - $10 per year
2 year contract - $5 per year

Rookies, would be free first year, then have to be given one of the above contracts or cut.

Free agents contract length would be determined by bid amount. $20+ 5 years, $15+ 4 years, and so forth.

No need to match contracts on trades. Teams can go above cap during year but must be below cap at the start of the season.

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A few examples using my current team:

Maxing it out Golden State Style, (5 years to SGA, PG13, VanVleet, Toppin, Tatum) 5 keepers x $20 = $100 total, rest of team filled out with rookie and waiver wire pick ups (no money for free agents)

I love everyone on my team! (2 years to all 12 players) 12 keepers x $5 = $60, $40 to spend on free agents! But the entire team will be free agents in 2 years.

Seven keepers and money for FA! (5y to SGA, 5y to Tatum, 4y to Toppin, 3y to PG13, 3y to VanVleet, 2y to Gordon, 2y to Oubre), $20+$20+$15+$10+$10+$5+$5 = $85, $15 left for free agents, with at least 3 players being 4+ year keepers.

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By tying money and contract length together it allows players to build their team as they see fit. You have a top heavy team? Spend big on them to keep them for a long time. Solid team down to #10? You can keep 10 keepers. Don't like your team? Cut them all and spend in free agency. Basically it makes the keeper limit variable while also giving keepers an absolute time limit, eventually they will become free agents.

You could keep the system simple as above or add more factors to make it interesting. Max out teams could get $5 exception, teams could trade for cap space (cash considerations!), rookie contracts could be cheaper, bird rights, RFA, etc...
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Re: 2020-2021 Dynasty League - Done with main draft - please vote in poll 

Post#489 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Dec 9, 2020 11:32 pm

MathiasPW wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
MathiasPW wrote:Should be there. I've noticed some managers already filled theirs.

I did, however, forget to change it from 2 to 3 for the COVID rule, so I've made that adjustment just now.


Oh, so they have to say INJ next to their name to go on IL and players listed as O (Out) cannot go on there? That's weird..they can in football. It seems if they were out due to injury they would be allowed to go on there.
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Ha yeah it's **** annoying. I swear it left some of my guys as O for like 2 weeks last season before making them IR eligible.

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Post#490 » by MathiasPW » Wed Dec 9, 2020 11:50 pm

Desertfox wrote:So I've been thinking about how to implement a cap league with the smoothest possible transition, while keeping the what people like about the current structure. So this is what I cam up with, figure I'd throw it out there at least to discuss.

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Cap limit of $100, contract cost tied directly to length, contract used to determine keepers. First year of implementation people give their players contracts as a way of selecting keepers. At the end of contract players automatically become free agents. There would be a rookie draft, and a free agent period:

5 year contract - $20 per year
4 year contract - $15 per year
3 year contract - $10 per year
2 year contract - $5 per year

Rookies, would be free first year, then have to be given one of the above contracts or cut.

Free agents contract length would be determined by bid amount. $20+ 5 years, $15+ 4 years, and so forth.

No need to match contracts on trades. Teams can go above cap during year but must be below cap at the start of the season.

***

A few examples using my current team:

Maxing it out Golden State Style, (5 years to SGA, PG13, VanVleet, Toppin, Tatum) 5 keepers x $20 = $100 total, rest of team filled out with rookie and waiver wire pick ups (no money for free agents)

I love everyone on my team! (2 years to all 12 players) 12 keepers x $5 = $60, $40 to spend on free agents! But the entire team will be free agents in 2 years.

Seven keepers and money for FA! (5y to SGA, 5y to Tatum, 4y to Toppin, 3y to PG13, 3y to VanVleet, 2y to Gordon, 2y to Oubre), $20+$20+$15+$10+$10+$5+$5 = $85, $15 left for free agents, with at least 3 players being 4+ year keepers.

***

By tying money and contract length together it allows players to build their team as they see fit. You have a top heavy team? Spend big on them to keep them for a long time. Solid team down to #10? You can keep 10 keepers. Don't like your team? Cut them all and spend in free agency. Basically it makes the keeper limit variable while also giving keepers an absolute time limit, eventually they will become free agents.

You could keep the system simple as above or add more factors to make it interesting. Max out teams could get $5 exception, teams could trade for cap space (cash considerations!), rookie contracts could be cheaper, bird rights, RFA, etc...
Desertfox,

While I love your enthusiasm, that shipped has sailed for now.

Your proposition and mine have a LOT in common, so it's good to see that I'm not out of my mind to think it's feasible to migrate to a capped league
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Post#491 » by Desertfox » Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:02 am

Well I did want to see how such a league would work with actual numbers. And I figure it would be easier to convince people if they could see how such a change wouldn't completely destroy their team.
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Post#492 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:17 am

I'm open to dealing one of my bigs for a guard if anyone is looking to balance their roster the other way.

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Post#493 » by sunskerr » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:42 pm

Should we shorten the time it takes for trades to go through? It's quite a long wait. I imagine that owners would like to get their players ASAP because negotiating trades can often take a long time, and having to wait a long time for no apparent reason after you've already agreed is quite frustrating.
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Post#494 » by Kerrsed » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:49 pm

Yeah, i have no idea what the trade time is set to, but it should be lowered to like 2 days or so because of the condensed season and having so many games in such little time. You could trade for a guy and miss out on like 4 or 5 games waiting for it to go through, and lets be honest, no one really vetos trades unless it is SUPER one sided, which i think we are all competitive enough not to allow that, and if such an occasion arises im sure it will be posted about and blasted in the Fantasy Thread to get vetos right away.
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Re: 2020-2021 Dynasty League - Done with main draft - please vote in poll 

Post#495 » by MathiasPW » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:40 am

Kerrsed wrote:Yeah, i have no idea what the trade time is set to, but it should be lowered to like 2 days or so because of the condensed season and having so many games in such little time. You could trade for a guy and miss out on like 4 or 5 games waiting for it to go through, and lets be honest, no one really vetos trades unless it is SUPER one sided, which i think we are all competitive enough not to allow that, and if such an occasion arises im sure it will be posted about and blasted in the Fantasy Thread to get vetos right away.


People have 2 days to veto it.

I just reduced it to one day, that´s the minimum
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