The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2

[Saberestar]

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Durant will likely force a trade to Spurs and that's how this saga ends. He will have a legit shot at a ring next season if he did. They can get him and keep Castle and #2 (Harper) and have Fox and Wemby. If he forces his way there this summer it will happen. The Suns will mostly want like 3 1st rounders for him and they can offer it.

14 + two future firsts + guys like Barnes, Vassel or Johnson as salary fillers would be a good haul.

Yeah, I think that we need to get Vassell + #14 + Keldon Johnson (or Barnes) AND 3 Unprotected FRPs.

I think they can give us those picks because they have multiple FRPs + their own picks (for example one via Atlanta, other via Dallas) so it's a luxury that they have and they need to consolidate those assets into players now.

If we accept not getting Castle or Harper they need to accept to give us those future picks. With KD signing his extension with them they will be contenders for years to come.

[Djedefre]

Getting #14 along with Vassell AND Keldon would be stellar. Attaching any more future picks would be madness from the Spurs. Utterly unrealistic. I mean even this package without the future FRP's looks borderline too good to be true.

I just don't think Durant still holds that much value, given his age and the fact that he never got any real success aside from that historically stacked Warriors team. Even if the team trading for him knows he'll re-sign, the risk of him just fading production-wise at any point is pretty high. At that age the decline is pretty steep and radical, as we witnessed ourseleves with Paul and so many other players. You never know when exactly they'll fall off a cliff.

[Saberestar]

Getting #14 along with Vassell AND Keldon would be stellar. Attaching any more future picks would be madness from the Spurs. Utterly unrealistic. I mean even this package without the future FRP's looks borderline too good to be true.

Vassell is an starter player in this league, but he isn't an All-Star or something like that. 5 years in the league already and a high salary.

Keldon is a bench scorer and overpaid for that role. Questionable defense. Solid player but I don't think he is more than a 6th man. If they value him pretty high we can agree to get Barnes in his place. Good versatile veteran player.

Then you have #14. Picks after #10 usually doesn't hold high value. It's a nice asset but they must add more draft capital to get a great player like KD.

The unprotected picks would be the actual prize for us in this trade. You have to think that they would have plenty of youngsters on their roster and they have multiple FRPs in the next six years.

[Djedefre]

I agree those picks would be the main prize, but i can not see that happening. Hope i'm wrong.

[Slim Charless]

Getting #14 along with Vassell AND Keldon would be stellar. Attaching any more future picks would be madness from the Spurs. Utterly unrealistic. I mean even this package without the future FRP's looks borderline too good to be true.

I just don't think Durant still holds that much value, given his age and the fact that he never got any real success aside from that historically stacked Warriors team. Even if the team trading for him knows he'll re-sign, the risk of him just fading production-wise at any point is pretty high. At that age the decline is pretty steep and radical, as we witnessed ourseleves with Paul and so many other players. You never know when exactly they'll fall off a cliff.

Yup.

Aside from the MVP he won, the multiple 1st team all NBA slots he got and the time he took a young Thunder team to the Finals.

Complete garbage that KD guy......

[Puff]

Getting #14 along with Vassell AND Keldon would be stellar. Attaching any more future picks would be madness from the Spurs. Utterly unrealistic. I mean even this package without the future FRP's looks borderline too good to be true.

I just don't think Durant still holds that much value, given his age and the fact that he never got any real success aside from that historically stacked Warriors team. Even if the team trading for him knows he'll re-sign, the risk of him just fading production-wise at any point is pretty high. At that age the decline is pretty steep and radical, as we witnessed ourseleves with Paul and so many other players. You never know when exactly they'll fall off a cliff.

Yup.

Aside from the MVP he won, the multiple 1st team all NBA slots he got and the time he took a young Thunder team to the Finals.

Complete garbage that KD guy......

This trade is horrible. Another couple of 6'5 SG/SF's. Don't we have enough of those guys already? No wonder they couldn't win any games with them and Wemby. They are terrible shooters even with Wemby drawing so much attention. No thank you to Vassell or Johnson. If we do trade for them it comes with a lifetime supply of Vaseline.

We need size to replace KD. Besides being an all time great he can play the 3/4 and the small ball 5. We need someone to fill that roll, or at least one of those roles. He also is the best shooter on the planet.

If KD demands that trade FCK him. I would rather just get their draft picks and no salary back. Then we can go find some size in free agency that can help build a team, not the dregs off the Spurs roster that sucks gas. Hell, no wonder they could not even win games after they traded for Fox. If we do trade for these guys we might as well join a 6'5 and under league.

What in the world makes Vassell so great. He can't shoot, he doesn't rebound, and he doesn't pass. WTF are we thinking. You think we should pay $30 Million for this guy. Just a little cheaper version of Beal but not as good.

We are keeping Booker and probably Beal along with O'Neale and Allen. WTF

Who is going to play defense and rebound?

Give me the Miami trade for Jovic and Ware + whatever.

[King4Day]

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I didn't watch this one simply because it makes no sense to propose these ideas when there's 0 chance we're trading him.
The Rockets one is what I'd take in order to get our picks back.

Why watch that when you can read this

I usually like to watch these. If it was KD or another player (which I think they've already done), I will check it out.
This one I hear about and seeing the images in the tweet is enough for me.

[Saberestar]

What in the world makes Vassell so great. He can't shoot, he doesn't rebound, and he doesn't pass. WTF are we thinking. You think we should pay $30 Million for this guy. Just a little cheaper version of Beal but not as good.

I think you're underestimating Vassell.

Yeah, he isn’t an All-Star or a super young talent but he is a rock solid two-way player who can really score the ball. Nice athlete that excells in transition. 24 years old.

People expected him better defense and worse offense but he has developed a very good offensive skillset.

He is 6'6 with a 6'9/6'10 wingspan so he can play minutes as a SF, no doubt about it.

Not the ideal centerpiece in a KD trade BUT if we could get abundant draft capital next to him the trade could be good enough for me.

[Frank Lee]

He’s a SG… we have one of those, no … two of those… wait no … three of those

Can’t be trading just to be trading. We’ve done that already

[Saberestar]

He’s a SG… we have one of those, no … two of those… wait no … three of those

Can’t be trading just to be trading. We’ve done that already

If we don’t want him on our roster we can use him on another trade. Vassell for Nick Claxton, for example.

[Frank Lee]

Now you are talking about 3 ways and 4 ways… save that for ghost and his mystical say a prayer deals.

I don’t know anymore. But KD is an expiring… so he has some pull in where he goes else he’s just a rental. He has to ok with an immediate extension if not. He has already displayed his willingness to walk out.

He might have more value if Wishbia extends him then trades. I think there is a good chance that happens and a trade come Dec.

It just a mess any which way you go.

[bullsaficianado]

I agree those picks would be the main prize, but i can not see that happening. Hope i'm wrong.

It's like going to be just 2 future 1st rounders from Spurs. #14 and a 1st round pick for 2026. Spurs are to smart to dump more than 2 but I said 3 because Ishbia will likely want picks back since he gave up so many to get KD. They have a ton of them so maybe they will budge.

[BobbieL]

I didn't watch this one simply because it makes no sense to propose these ideas when there's 0 chance we're trading him.
The Rockets one is what I'd take in order to get our picks back.

Why watch that when you can read this

I usually like to watch these. If it was KD or another player (which I think they've already done), I will check it out.
This one I hear about and seeing the images in the tweet is enough for me.

I still don’t get why Book is off the table if trading him potentially helps your team . Meaning Erik and Stephen. I think they want the Suns to win and have Booker on the team. Its the idea that Booker is off the table is something that makes no sense if the goal is to win a title.

If there is not a deal to be made - that is fine. But shutting the door, which is seems Ishbia has done, makes no sense. As for Erik and Stephen - they are just too much "fan" to be analytical

[wheezy]

Michael Scotto

The Phoenix Suns have at least five candidates advancing to the next round of interviews for their head coaching job, including Jordan Ott and Johnnie Bryant (Cavaliers), Sean Sweeney (Mavericks), Chris Quinn (Heat), and Dave Bliss (Thunder), league sources told @hoopshype.

Gambo

Sean Sweeney makes it four interviews scheduled for the final round. Hearing they could have added one more to make it 5 total for final round.

Why does it seem like they're drawing it out? All of these headlines about candidates making it to the next round of interviews just makes this seem like they're turning the hire into a gameshow.

[Saberestar]

Michael Scotto

The Phoenix Suns have at least five candidates advancing to the next round of interviews for their head coaching job, including Jordan Ott and Johnnie Bryant (Cavaliers), Sean Sweeney (Mavericks), Chris Quinn (Heat), and Dave Bliss (Thunder), league sources told @hoopshype.

Gambo

Sean Sweeney makes it four interviews scheduled for the final round. Hearing they could have added one more to make it 5 total for final round.

Why does it seem like they're drawing it out? All of these headlines about candidates making it to the next round of interviews just makes this seem like they're turning the hire into a gameshow.

No one from the organization is saying anything about it. Some reporters are giving us a bit of info about the internal process.

[Rebound Mound]

The trade with the SAS would be garbage for us. No sense in making trades with them because:
- they would be founding a potential NBA winner.
- they do not have good players who can contribute now and willing to trade.
- we are thinking about a solution in which we are not going to rebuild. What do we want those picks for? To trade for other players?

Only in that situation I would get those picks and send them to Utah for Markannen or to Orlando for Wanger and other things.

Wagner would be a player that would work great with Booker. He creates from the SF spot, often posting up and then passing outside. Sometimes creating for himself and being able to play at a slow pace which I believe could benefit us when playing with Booker and Beal and another player who could shoot from the PF spot.

Wagner would allow us to play Booker and Beal at the same time as long as one of them can defend the opposing PG.

[bullsaficianado]

The trade with the SAS would be garbage for us. No sense in making trades with them because:
- they would be founding a potential NBA winner.
- they do not have good players who can contribute now and willing to trade.
- we are thinking about a solution in which we are not going to rebuild. What do we want those picks for? To trade for other players?

Only in that situation I would get those picks and send them to Utah for Markannen or to Orlando for Wanger and other things.

Wagner would be a player that would work great with Booker. He creates from the SF spot, often posting up and then passing outside. Sometimes creating for himself and being able to play at a slow pace which I believe could benefit us when playing with Booker and Beal and another player who could shoot from the PF spot.

Wagner would allow us to play Booker and Beal at the same time as long as one of them can defend the opposing PG.

If KD wants the Spurs it will most likely be a 3 team trade. So yes Markannen to Suns is possible.

[BobbieL]

Michael Scotto


Gambo

Why does it seem like they're drawing it out? All of these headlines about candidates making it to the next round of interviews just makes this seem like they're turning the hire into a gameshow.

No one from the organization is saying anything about it. Some reporters are giving us a bit of info about the internal process.

I do not have a problem being patient and thorough just as long as they get the best hire. Which we won't kn ow for a bit of time

My guess, it will be the MSU connection that gets the job

[Ghost of Kleine]

He’s a SG… we have one of those, no … two of those… wait no … three of those

Can’t be trading just to be trading. We’ve done that already

But maybe Vassell could be traded elsewhere for a point guard or a frontcourt player?

[Ghost of Kleine]

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I'd love to find a way to get either combination of:

1- Issac/ Vucevic.

OR

2-J Collins/ Vucevic.

But what would Chicago be looking for in exchange for Vucevic? And could Ball be a possibility too at the cost of two 2nds?