2014 Official FA Thread

[Frank Lee]

If Bosh hits the open market count on McDo taking notice. No way would we pass on him for a may be Love the next yr. I'd think CB would fit nicely here.


Now someone please insert that 'tree falling flop' of his

[JDLAW]

If Bosh hits the open market count on McDo taking notice. No way would we pass on him for a may be Love the next yr. I'd think CB would fit nicely here.


Now someone please insert that 'tree falling flop' of his

I agree with you on Bosh. I never used to like his game, but it has grown and he would be a better fit for the Suns than Love. He stretches the floor and rebounds will and is a far better defensive player.

[JDLAW]

Love is a pipe dream. I think the chances of getting him here are similar to getting LeBron here. Every team in the league is talking about him for 2015.

I don't think it's nearly as unlikely as LeBron. LeBron NEEDS a big market. Love NEEDS to win because he has never won anything, so I see him wanting to go to a team that gives him that chance. Of course there are rumors that coaches say it's pretty well known he wants to go to LA, but are they in a position to win? Will they have vets when he is there?

Kobe's contract REALLY hurts them because it runs past 2015, otherwise they could possibly go for two max guys which would make sense for Love to join someone else. I guess he could opt in for another year at Minnesota after next year and try to go to LA with some other star in 2016 (Durant?) but I don't know that he wants to stay in Minnesota that long.

When it comes down to it, Chicago might end up making the most sense for him after Boozer's contract is done. And there is the NY situation...their cap is clear and he could join Melo there.

Given those two possibilities, maybe Phx is less likely, but you will also have Bosh and LeBron possibly moving in the summer of 2015. Bosh could go to Chicago and LeBron to NY, leaving us with Love.

But I still think you try and get him, and if not, have a backup plan for that summer (like Millsap). Don't take crap like Deng this summer (just to spend money) leaving you stuck at the 8th-9th spot for a couple more years.

We also probably need to spend some money on a rim protector.

I generally have a lot of respect for your opinions. I am only going to quibble with the statement that LeBron needs a big market. He has not been in a big market since he has been in the league. Neither Cleveland nor Miami are as big a market as Phoenix. Miami is a transient market with a lot retirees and a lot of money, but Phoenix is a bigger market in both population and TV. Further, when you are the best player in the game as Lebron is, the market size becomes much less consideration. He and Durant transcend market sizes.

[bwgood77]

I generally have a lot of respect for your opinions. I am only going to quibble with the statement that LeBron needs a big market. He has not been in a big market since he has been in the league. Neither Cleveland nor Miami are as big a market as Phoenix. Miami is a transient market with a lot retirees and a lot of money, but Phoenix is a bigger market in both population and TV. Further, when you are the best player in the game as Lebron is, the market size becomes much less consideration. He and Durant transcend market sizes.

I agree that Phx is a bigger market than Miami for city size alone. But it's not for entire metro area http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Me ... ical_Areas, and he was joining other stars. Miami is also more of a hot spot, especially for people on the east coast.

I also agree that he doesn't NEED a big market in the sense that he would transcend the market. I just personally feel that he would want to stay where he is or if he moved, it would eventually be a big market, or that he would join other perennial all stars.

I just can't see him coming to Phoenix. And also, although he could fit in anywhere since he can do everything, I think there are better fits for him. He works best as the primary ballhandler surrounded by role players (primarily shooters or rim protectors). Our team clicks BECAUSE of two ballhandlers sharing the duties.

Sure we could make it work somehow, but some players would be underutilized with their strengths if we had Bledsoe, Dragic AND LeBron. When you have LeBron, you should build around him, and those guys don't necessarily complement him that well. Especially not both of them playing with him. Now if people are advocating swapping one or both of Dragic/Bledsoe for pieces that fit with LeBron better, I can see why they like the possibilities.

But playing all three of them together minimizes the strengths of at least two of the players.

[Frank Lee]

Can we just quit with the 'Bronstrabating....

[DirtyDez]

Can we just quit with the 'Bronstrabating....

You saying he won't leave a title-contender in the weak East for a non-playoff team in the brutal West?

[JDLAW]

I generally have a lot of respect for your opinions. I am only going to quibble with the statement that LeBron needs a big market. He has not been in a big market since he has been in the league. Neither Cleveland nor Miami are as big a market as Phoenix. Miami is a transient market with a lot retirees and a lot of money, but Phoenix is a bigger market in both population and TV. Further, when you are the best player in the game as Lebron is, the market size becomes much less consideration. He and Durant transcend market sizes.

I agree that Phx is a bigger market than Miami for city size alone. But it's not for entire metro area http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Me ... ical_Areas, and he was joining other stars. Miami is also more of a hot spot, especially for people on the east coast.

I also agree that he doesn't NEED a big market in the sense that he would transcend the market. I just personally feel that he would want to stay where he is or if he moved, it would eventually be a big market, or that he would join other perennial all stars.

I just can't see him coming to Phoenix. And also, although he could fit in anywhere since he can do everything, I think there are better fits for him. He works best as the primary ballhandler surrounded by role players (primarily shooters or rim protectors). Our team clicks BECAUSE of two ballhandlers sharing the duties.

Sure we could make it work somehow, but some players would be underutilized with their strengths if we had Bledsoe, Dragic AND LeBron. When you have LeBron, you should build around him, and those guys don't necessarily complement him that well. Especially not both of them playing with him. Now if people are advocating swapping one or both of Dragic/Bledsoe for pieces that fit with LeBron better, I can see why they like the possibilities.

But playing all three of them together minimizes the strengths of at least two of the players.

I'd be a little cautious about the groupings in Wikipedia. It includes West Palm Beach and other locations up the coast. WPB is 70+ miles from Miami. If we go by that criteria, Phoenix would get to claim population all the way south nearly to Marana, Apache Junction, Gila Bend, Casa Grande, etc… The actual market in Miami is smaller than Phoenix. As I pointed out it is a hot spot, especially for moneyed East Coasters.

I have never argued that LeBron was coming to the Suns, but believe he would be a great fit with Bledsoe and Dragic. I believe that great players learn to play together. The trio in Miami learned to play together. If he were to come here, and the possibility is extremely small, Bledsoe Dragic and LeBron would figure it out and play well together.

[bwgood77]

I generally have a lot of respect for your opinions. I am only going to quibble with the statement that LeBron needs a big market. He has not been in a big market since he has been in the league. Neither Cleveland nor Miami are as big a market as Phoenix. Miami is a transient market with a lot retirees and a lot of money, but Phoenix is a bigger market in both population and TV. Further, when you are the best player in the game as Lebron is, the market size becomes much less consideration. He and Durant transcend market sizes.

I agree that Phx is a bigger market than Miami for city size alone. But it's not for entire metro area http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Me ... ical_Areas, and he was joining other stars. Miami is also more of a hot spot, especially for people on the east coast.

I also agree that he doesn't NEED a big market in the sense that he would transcend the market. I just personally feel that he would want to stay where he is or if he moved, it would eventually be a big market, or that he would join other perennial all stars.

I just can't see him coming to Phoenix. And also, although he could fit in anywhere since he can do everything, I think there are better fits for him. He works best as the primary ballhandler surrounded by role players (primarily shooters or rim protectors). Our team clicks BECAUSE of two ballhandlers sharing the duties.

Sure we could make it work somehow, but some players would be underutilized with their strengths if we had Bledsoe, Dragic AND LeBron. When you have LeBron, you should build around him, and those guys don't necessarily complement him that well. Especially not both of them playing with him. Now if people are advocating swapping one or both of Dragic/Bledsoe for pieces that fit with LeBron better, I can see why they like the possibilities.

But playing all three of them together minimizes the strengths of at least two of the players.

I'd be a little cautious about the groupings in Wikipedia. It includes West Palm Beach and other locations up the coast. WPB is 70+ miles from Miami. If we go by that criteria, Phoenix would get to claim population all the way south nearly to Marana, Apache Junction, Gila Bend, Casa Grande, etc… The actual market in Miami is smaller than Phoenix. As I pointed out it is a hot spot, especially for moneyed East Coasters.

I have never argued that LeBron was coming to the Suns, but believe he would be a great fit with Bledsoe and Dragic. I believe that great players learn to play together. The trio in Miami learned to play together. If he were to come here, and the possibility is extremely small, Bledsoe Dragic and LeBron would figure it out and play well together.

Well if you prefer a different site specifically referring to the census bureau as the source, you can try this one. http://www.iweblists.com/us/population/ ... eaPop.html

Honestly when I think of big markets I mainly think of NY, LA, Chicago for the most part.

I think LeBron can make it work with anyone, but like Nash and Kobe or even LeBron and Wade, if you have guys who are best with the ball in their hands making the decisions, sometimes it minimizes their strengths to play them together. With two it can work as they give each other breaks. With three, you are really stretching it. LeBron makes a team with anyone on it better though, and even if he was just a 3 pt shooter and rebounder like Love, he'd be great. Add in his defense and it's better. But he's going to have the ball on his hands if he is on your team. I kind of like Dragic with the ball in his hands as much as possible. Perhaps some don't and want even another primary ballhandler

Of course I'd be happy if we got LeBron. But I'd definitely want to deal Bledsoe for a sharpshooter at that point if possible.

Though I'd have to say I've gotten to the point where I prefer rooting against LeBron instead of for him. I'd kind of like to be the up n coming team that takes down the giant as opposed to being the favorite everyone expects to win it all.

[QuickLikeTheo]

I agree that Phx is a bigger market than Miami for city size alone. But it's not for entire metro area http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Me ... ical_Areas, and he was joining other stars. Miami is also more of a hot spot, especially for people on the east coast.

I also agree that he doesn't NEED a big market in the sense that he would transcend the market. I just personally feel that he would want to stay where he is or if he moved, it would eventually be a big market, or that he would join other perennial all stars.

I just can't see him coming to Phoenix. And also, although he could fit in anywhere since he can do everything, I think there are better fits for him. He works best as the primary ballhandler surrounded by role players (primarily shooters or rim protectors). Our team clicks BECAUSE of two ballhandlers sharing the duties.

Sure we could make it work somehow, but some players would be underutilized with their strengths if we had Bledsoe, Dragic AND LeBron. When you have LeBron, you should build around him, and those guys don't necessarily complement him that well. Especially not both of them playing with him. Now if people are advocating swapping one or both of Dragic/Bledsoe for pieces that fit with LeBron better, I can see why they like the possibilities.

But playing all three of them together minimizes the strengths of at least two of the players.

I'd be a little cautious about the groupings in Wikipedia. It includes West Palm Beach and other locations up the coast. WPB is 70+ miles from Miami. If we go by that criteria, Phoenix would get to claim population all the way south nearly to Marana, Apache Junction, Gila Bend, Casa Grande, etc… The actual market in Miami is smaller than Phoenix. As I pointed out it is a hot spot, especially for moneyed East Coasters.

I have never argued that LeBron was coming to the Suns, but believe he would be a great fit with Bledsoe and Dragic. I believe that great players learn to play together. The trio in Miami learned to play together. If he were to come here, and the possibility is extremely small, Bledsoe Dragic and LeBron would figure it out and play well together.

Well if you prefer a different site specifically referring to the census bureau as the source, you can try this one. http://www.iweblists.com/us/population/ ... eaPop.html

Honestly when I think of big markets I mainly think of NY, LA, Chicago for the most part.

I think LeBron can make it work with anyone, but like Nash and Kobe or even LeBron and Wade, if you have guys who are best with the ball in their hands making the decisions, sometimes it minimizes their strengths to play them together. With two it can work as they give each other breaks. With three, you are really stretching it. LeBron makes a team with anyone on it better though, and even if he was just a 3 pt shooter and rebounder like Love, he'd be great. Add in his defense and it's better. But he's going to have the ball on his hands if he is on your team. I kind of like Dragic with the ball in his hands as much as possible. Perhaps some don't and want even another primary ballhandler

Of course I'd be happy if we got LeBron. But I'd definitely want to deal Bledsoe for a sharpshooter at that point if possible.

Though I'd have to say I've gotten to the point where I prefer rooting against LeBron instead of for him. I'd kind of like to be the up n coming team that takes down the giant as opposed to being the favorite everyone expects to win it all.

Dragic is a very good cutter and shooter which would help him when playing off ball

[JDLAW]

I agree that Phx is a bigger market than Miami for city size alone. But it's not for entire metro area http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Me ... ical_Areas, and he was joining other stars. Miami is also more of a hot spot, especially for people on the east coast.

I also agree that he doesn't NEED a big market in the sense that he would transcend the market. I just personally feel that he would want to stay where he is or if he moved, it would eventually be a big market, or that he would join other perennial all stars.

I just can't see him coming to Phoenix. And also, although he could fit in anywhere since he can do everything, I think there are better fits for him. He works best as the primary ballhandler surrounded by role players (primarily shooters or rim protectors). Our team clicks BECAUSE of two ballhandlers sharing the duties.

Sure we could make it work somehow, but some players would be underutilized with their strengths if we had Bledsoe, Dragic AND LeBron. When you have LeBron, you should build around him, and those guys don't necessarily complement him that well. Especially not both of them playing with him. Now if people are advocating swapping one or both of Dragic/Bledsoe for pieces that fit with LeBron better, I can see why they like the possibilities.

But playing all three of them together minimizes the strengths of at least two of the players.

I'd be a little cautious about the groupings in Wikipedia. It includes West Palm Beach and other locations up the coast. WPB is 70+ miles from Miami. If we go by that criteria, Phoenix would get to claim population all the way south nearly to Marana, Apache Junction, Gila Bend, Casa Grande, etc… The actual market in Miami is smaller than Phoenix. As I pointed out it is a hot spot, especially for moneyed East Coasters.

I have never argued that LeBron was coming to the Suns, but believe he would be a great fit with Bledsoe and Dragic. I believe that great players learn to play together. The trio in Miami learned to play together. If he were to come here, and the possibility is extremely small, Bledsoe Dragic and LeBron would figure it out and play well together.

Well if you prefer a different site specifically referring to the census bureau as the source, you can try this one. http://www.iweblists.com/us/population/ ... eaPop.html

Honestly when I think of big markets I mainly think of NY, LA, Chicago for the most part.

I think LeBron can make it work with anyone, but like Nash and Kobe or even LeBron and Wade, if you have guys who are best with the ball in their hands making the decisions, sometimes it minimizes their strengths to play them together. With two it can work as they give each other breaks. With three, you are really stretching it. LeBron makes a team with anyone on it better though, and even if he was just a 3 pt shooter and rebounder like Love, he'd be great. Add in his defense and it's better. But he's going to have the ball on his hands if he is on your team. I kind of like Dragic with the ball in his hands as much as possible. Perhaps some don't and want even another primary ballhandler

Of course I'd be happy if we got LeBron. But I'd definitely want to deal Bledsoe for a sharpshooter at that point if possible.

Though I'd have to say I've gotten to the point where I prefer rooting against LeBron instead of for him. I'd kind of like to be the up n coming team that takes down the giant as opposed to being the favorite everyone expects to win it all.

THe Census website Numbers are the same as those from Wiki. It suffers from the same flaw Miami's population center stretches 70+ miles up the coast of south Fla It is a matter of line drawing. Does Phx metro get to extend the boundaries to about 70 miles? The Miami and Phx markets are approximately equal with Phx, the city being a little bigger than Mia the city.

If LeBron wanted to come to Phoenix and transform the Suns to an immediate championship contender, I'd welcome him with open arms as would most fans. I have been a fan for every season since they have been in existence and would like to see a championship come to the valley. Lebron along with the existing roster would make them a contender. I realize this is a huge long shot, but turning him down would be like throwing Kate Upton out of bed because of questionable virginity.

Finally, if, against all odds, he were to come to the Suns, they would NOT be trading Bledsoe. Bledsoe who has a tight relationship with Lebron, would be one the main reasons he would come here.

[thamadkant]

I already mentioned this earlier on the thread...
Gay and Bosh would be targets that McD have his eyes on.

[jcsunsfan]

I already mentioned this earlier on the thread...
Gay and Bosh would be targets that McD have his eyes on.

Bosh is ideal, but I just don't know if he is going to be available.

[jcsunsfan]

Love is a pipe dream. I think the chances of getting him here are similar to getting LeBron here. Every team in the league is talking about him for 2015.

Yeah, but the main point is his strengths are made for our system here. If I am neutral fan I`d much rather watch him in Phoenix averaging 25/15 alongside Dragic and Bledsoe while being a (most probably) top 5 western team than in boring Bulls` offense, for example.

What I want to say is that it`s in his best interest to come to the Valley since he would be a regular MVP candidate playing in Suns` high octane offense.

In reality Phoenix is a great place for him. The problem is, is when Phoenix wins the Pacific, the Lakers lose and the NBA doesn't like that. I do believe in conspiracies against the Suns to some extent. We take a lot of the Lakers glory when we are good.

We are a perfect situation for Love or James, but the talking heads ignore that; they only talk about the Lakers and Knicks who have absolutely jack crap right now! But people continue to publicize those teams and cities. Phoenix has a great geographic location, weather and all four major sports. Vegas and LA are a short plane ride away. Barkley and Nash have both won MVP's here. We are not an Alpha city, but we aren't an Omega city either.

But that is the way it goes!

As a destination, Phoenix is better than San Antonio.

[Revived]

I already mentioned this earlier on the thread...
Gay and Bosh would be targets that McD have his eyes on.

I want Bosh so bad. The guy's just the perfect leader for us as well.

[RaisingArizona]

Go after Monroe with some of our cap space. Len/Frye/Plumlee need help rebounding and as a team we suck at scoring in the post. I think this makes the most sense in terms of what we're currently lacking.

[Ryu]

I already mentioned this earlier on the thread...
Gay and Bosh would be targets that McD have his eyes on.

I want Bosh so bad. The guy's just the perfect leader for us as well.

Bosh is a very good player but a leader he is not.

However, his skills would look great alongside our leaders (Dragic and Bledsoe).

[NTB]

I already mentioned this earlier on the thread...
Gay and Bosh would be targets that McD have his eyes on.

I want Bosh so bad. The guy's just the perfect leader for us as well.

Bosh is a very good player but a leader he is not.

However, his skills would look great alongside our leaders (Dragic and Bledsoe).

Bosh is a mental leader.Not in-game leader.

[Ryu]

I want Bosh so bad. The guy's just the perfect leader for us as well.

Bosh is a very good player but a leader he is not.

However, his skills would look great alongside our leaders (Dragic and Bledsoe).

Bosh is a mental leader.Not in-game leader.

I am not sure what a 'mental leader' means.

If that's what I suppose it is then PJ Tucker is our mental (and vocal) leader and Bosh is far from that kind of guy.

Nice avatar, btw.

[E-Buck]

Bosh would fit so nicely here.

I've always wondered, who would we let go once we sign some free agents?

Aside from Frye, I really don't wanna see anyone else go.

Bledsoe/Dragic/Plumlee/Len/Archie aren't going anywhere

Then we have Green/Morris twins/Tucker/Ish and to be honest, I want them all to stay. I even want Frye to stay, but he would be the only one I'd be okay seeing leave, if we get Bosh.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Go after Monroe with some of our cap space. Len/Frye/Plumlee need help rebounding and as a team we suck at scoring in the post. I think this makes the most sense in terms of what we're currently lacking.

No no no to monroe. Dudes looking for a huge deal and is an abysmal defender and just an average efficiency scorer. He might be my least favorite player who's gonna get paid this summer.

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