Playoffs Discussion

Revived · Post #501 » by **Revived** » Thu May 10, 2018 12:32 pm

Saberestar wrote:Tatum is a beast.

Kinda shows that pre draft evaluations can sometimes be completely pointless.

Tatum was supposed to be a non athletic, poor defender player that cant shoot.

He was even compared to TJ Warren by a few :lol:

Mulhollanddrive · Post #502 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Thu May 10, 2018 12:40 pm

Surprised at his 3PT% in his first season everything else is tracking about as expected.

King4Day · Post #503 » by **King4Day** » Thu May 10, 2018 3:10 pm

Revived wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Tatum is a beast.

Kinda shows that pre draft evaluations can sometimes be completely pointless.

Tatum was supposed to be a non athletic, poor defender player that cant shoot.

He was even compared to TJ Warren by a few

I'm just glad we didn't pass up on him. No regrets with JJ, but man, if we could have had him I would be upset right now.

Philly really got shafted. Had they not made the trade, they still would have wound up with Fultz probably. Boston was taking Tatum no matter what.

I will never root for Boston (unless they play the Warriors) because of the Nets trade. That team is going to be a juggernaut for the next decade plus.

saintEscaton · Post #504 » by **saintEscaton** » Thu May 10, 2018 4:07 pm

I think Tatum will regress to the mean eventually, but yeah he's already as good as Otto Porter with additional ISO skills, could be Melo Lite with a motor/passable D but his numbers are definitely inflated under the set plays of Steven's system. But I still think JJ has the higher ceiling if he puts its all together and he was outplaying Tatum the second half of the regular season without Booker

Gant · Post #505 » by **Gant** » Thu May 10, 2018 4:32 pm

saintEscaton wrote:I think Tatum will regress to the mean eventually, but yeah he's already as good as Otto Porter with additional ISO skills, could be Melo Lite with a motor/passable D but his numbers are definitely inflated under the set plays of Steven's system. But I still think JJ has the higher ceiling if he puts its all together and he was outplaying Tatum the second half of the regular season without Booker

I think he's going to leave what he is now behind in the dust.

darealjuice · Post #506 » by **darealjuice** » Thu May 10, 2018 4:39 pm

Gant wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:I think Tatum will regress to the mean eventually, but yeah he's already as good as Otto Porter with additional ISO skills, could be Melo Lite with a motor/passable D but his numbers are definitely inflated under the set plays of Steven's system. But I still think JJ has the higher ceiling if he puts its all together and he was outplaying Tatum the second half of the regular season without Booker

I think he's going to leave what he is now behind in the dust.

Breaking news: Celtics fan thinks Celtics player is going to be amazing

Post #507 » by **bwgood77** » Thu May 10, 2018 7:45 pm

Check out this guy's 3 pt attempts and % in regular season vs postseason and past 5 games. What did they tell him to practice 3s all season long and in the playoffs when our opponent is least expecting it, we will have you unleash your 3 pt game on him?

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2968439

He's another free agent this summer. Wonder what he'll get paid.

Damkac · Post #508 » by **Damkac** » Thu May 10, 2018 8:13 pm

He shoot 2 less 3-pointers in 9 playoffs games than he shoot the entire season.

Saberestar · Post #509 » by **Saberestar** » Thu May 10, 2018 9:02 pm

saintEscaton wrote:I think Tatum will regress to the mean eventually, but yeah he's already as good as Otto Porter with additional ISO skills, could be Melo Lite with a motor/passable D but his numbers are definitely inflated under the set plays of Steven's system. But I still think JJ has the higher ceiling if he puts its all together and he was outplaying Tatum the second half of the regular season without Booker

I have been watching the playoffs and I think that Tatum is gonna be a perennial All Star.

He has EVERYHING in his arsenal, the ultimate all around player. He is soo skilled... His defense is really good and he can handle the ball way better than expected. Amazing decision making. He can make damage in the post, mid range, 3pt, offensive rebounds...I mean, everything.

I would prefer him on my team over Simmons or Mitchel. All three are terrific young players, but I have a better feeling with Tatum.

Ainge is an amazing GM. It is what it is.

OzzyAZ · Post #510 » by **OzzyAZ** » Fri May 11, 2018 12:36 am

DarkHawk wrote:
Revived wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Tatum is a beast.

Kinda shows that pre draft evaluations can sometimes be completely pointless.

Tatum was supposed to be a non athletic, poor defender player that cant shoot.

He was even compared to TJ Warren by a few

I'm just glad we didn't pass up on him. No regrets with JJ, but man, if we could have had him I would be upset right now.

Philly really got shafted. Had they not made the trade, they still would have wound up with Fultz probably. Boston was taking Tatum no matter what.

I will never root for Boston (unless they play the Warriors) because of the Nets trade. That team is going to be a juggernaut for the next decade plus.

I think JJ would've looked a lot better and more poised in Boston and Tatum would've looked a lot worse here if that's the way it had gone.

Boston's elite, well executed system is worlds apart from our do what you want, no real roles or accountability coaching from the last few years.

Post #511 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri May 11, 2018 12:39 am

darealjuice wrote:
Gant wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:I think Tatum will regress to the mean eventually, but yeah he's already as good as Otto Porter with additional ISO skills, could be Melo Lite with a motor/passable D but his numbers are definitely inflated under the set plays of Steven's system. But I still think JJ has the higher ceiling if he puts its all together and he was outplaying Tatum the second half of the regular season without Booker

I think he's going to leave what he is now behind in the dust.

Breaking news: Celtics fan thinks Celtics player is going to be amazing

Eh we think the same about JJ

saintEscaton · Post #512 » by **saintEscaton** » Fri May 11, 2018 12:42 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
darealjuice wrote:
Gant wrote:
I think he's going to leave what he is now behind in the dust.

Breaking news: Celtics fan thinks Celtics player is going to be amazing

Eh we think the same about JJ

If we drop to 4 I really want Michael Porter Jr as a consolation, he is like Tatum on steroids with 2 additional inches , superior athleticism and a smoother perimeter stroke, and could play the 4 as well in this pace n space league

Post #513 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri May 11, 2018 12:44 am

OzzyAZ wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:
Revived wrote:Kinda shows that pre draft evaluations can sometimes be completely pointless.

Tatum was supposed to be a non athletic, poor defender player that cant shoot.

He was even compared to TJ Warren by a few

I'm just glad we didn't pass up on him. No regrets with JJ, but man, if we could have had him I would be upset right now.

Philly really got shafted. Had they not made the trade, they still would have wound up with Fultz probably. Boston was taking Tatum no matter what.

I will never root for Boston (unless they play the Warriors) because of the Nets trade. That team is going to be a juggernaut for the next decade plus.

I think JJ would've looked a lot better and more poised in Boston and Tatum would've looked a lot worse here if that's the way it had gone.

Boston's elite, well executed system is worlds apart from our do what you want, no real roles or accountability coaching from the last few years.

Yup. Coming out of college, Tatum was always the more polished (at least offensively) player than JJ. Being on a lotto team with no real coaching certainly helped exacerbate JJ's lack of polish while being in a well execute offense with Tatum's polish and shooting ability made him look like a ROY candidate early onwards. I don't think Boston would've been any better with JJ though. Boston really needed his polish, BBIQ and shooting abilities to run that system well

Revived · Post #514 » by **Revived** » Fri May 11, 2018 12:53 am

saintEscaton wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
darealjuice wrote:
Breaking news: Celtics fan thinks Celtics player is going to be amazing

Eh we think the same about JJ

If we drop to 4 I really want Michael Porter Jr as a consolation, he is like Tatum on steroids with 2 additional inches , superior athleticism and a smoother perimeter stroke, and could play the 4 as well in this pace n space league

I’m a big Porter fan as well.

I’ve seen some mocks in which he drop out of the top 7 which is crazy. If that happens I would trade Bucks pick, #16 and #31 to move up for him.

Imagine...Doncic, Booker, Jackson, Porter Jr & Capela....so much firepower!

Post #515 » by **bwgood77** » Fri May 11, 2018 12:58 am

Yeah, Porter, in theory (since I haven't seen him really in college fully healthy) is intriguing. I wouldn't be upset if we took him at 3. That would mean he checked out medically. I just think of a Durant type player potentially.

It's just hard to know without him playing, and it's also hard because I believe in Trae.

Post #516 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri May 11, 2018 1:04 am

saintEscaton wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
darealjuice wrote:
Breaking news: Celtics fan thinks Celtics player is going to be amazing

Eh we think the same about JJ

If we drop to 4 I really want Michael Porter Jr as a consolation, he is like Tatum on steroids with 2 additional inches , superior athleticism and a smoother perimeter stroke, and could play the 4 as well in this pace n space league

For a second I read that as trading out for Otto Porter.

I've always had MPJ pretty high on my board although he had dropped recently with other prospects moving up. I think I still like Young more but I do like MPJ about as much as JJJr, if his back checks out.

I wonder how he's going to handle the physicals. Is he going to make them available to only a selective few teams to get to where he wants to go?

kennydorglas · Post #517 » by **kennydorglas** » Fri May 11, 2018 4:03 am

saintEscaton wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
darealjuice wrote:
Breaking news: Celtics fan thinks Celtics player is going to be amazing

Eh we think the same about JJ

If we drop to 4 I really want Michael Porter Jr as a consolation, he is like Tatum on steroids with 2 additional inches , superior athleticism and a smoother perimeter stroke, and could play the 4 as well in this pace n space league

He cant pass tho. It's amazing how different he is from Jontay.
Definitely a 3-lvl scorer in the NBA, already built like a truck.
But I just hate players with tunnel vision.

OzzyAZ · Post #518 » by **OzzyAZ** » Sat May 12, 2018 7:16 pm

Welp, 4 teams left. The Rockets have Tucker and Harden is an ASU dude.

Go Rockets

nevetsov · Post #519 » by **nevetsov** » Sun May 13, 2018 1:39 am

OzzyAZ wrote:Welp, 4 teams left. The Rockets have Tucker and Harden is an ASU dude.

Go Rockets

They also have Joe Johnson and Gerald Green as I recall. And Mike D.

Go Rockets

Post #520 » by **bwgood77** » Sun May 13, 2018 2:25 am

Boston Celtics forward Marcus Morris -- never short on confidence, as his shot selection often confirms -- is ready to embrace the challenge of defending Cleveland Cavaliers star LeBron James.

On the eve of the Eastern Conference finals, Morris showered James with praise but also stressed how he feels he's one of the best in the NBA at making things tough on James.

"Personally, I think I'm probably the best guy defending him in the league, outside of Kawhi [Leonard]," said Morris.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23483183/marcus-morris-boston-celtics-probably-best-guy-defending-lebron-james-kawhi-leonard

Who are people pulling for in this series? It is very hard for me to pull for Boston, but Cleveland isn't exactly fun to pull for either, though I guess when you consider the fan base, it's one that isn't exactly used to much success in any professional sports, especially when compared to Boston.

Who are you pulling for?