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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#501 » by King4Day » Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:12 am

Doncic may be having his worst career NBA game so far.
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Post#502 » by spanishninja » Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:15 am

If they dont figure this out soon Reggie Miller will soon be complimenting the Mavericks organization.
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Post#503 » by bwgood77 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:10 am

Desmond Bane with a decent line tonight. 6-11 from field, 3-6 from 3,16 pts, 4 reb, 2 stl
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Post#504 » by Saberestar » Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:17 am

bwgood77 wrote:Desmond Bane with a decent line tonight. 6-11 from field, 3-6 from 3,16 pts, 4 reb, 2 stl

Yeah, he looks legit, but the Grizzlies are having a tough time with Ja Morant out. And the Wolves without Towns.
These two teams are going to be in a deep hole in the West when they'll be back.
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Post#505 » by sunskerr » Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:31 am

bwgood77 wrote:Desmond Bane with a decent line tonight. 6-11 from field, 3-6 from 3,16 pts, 4 reb, 2 stl


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Post#506 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:27 pm

darealjuice wrote:I'm not typically one to hang on previous draft picks, but not drafting Haliburton still irks me. I had him 4 and feel like it'd be easy to make compelling argument to have him higher, but somehow he ends up at 12 despite being a perfect fit for multiple teams? Then reports that he forced himself to drop because he didn't like fits and/or direction, only to choose Sacramento? Sacramento has been scrappy so far this season and could be a dark horse to sneak into the playoffs, just seems weird.

I'll also say that I was pretty anti-Jalen Smith going into the draft because I saw his best fit in the NBA being at center, but I've been pleasantly surprised so far. He still hasn't 100% convinced me that he'll be at his best at power forward, but he's been more mobile and his handle has been better than I expected. I also think he's similar to Bridges and Cam in that you can count on him to work to develop because he's disciplined and mature at a young age.
I was high on Haliburton too and would have liked that pick. The one area I did have a little concern with him and wonder if it factored into the suns decision was his lack of athletism. This suns team is already a pretty below the rim group and Smith at least profiles an above average athlete for a big. I hope it didn't but i wonder if the Ty Jerome experience spooked them from that type of guard.

I also can't help but wonder if Smith was a little 'were not 100% sure we want to pay Ayton' insurance. Not saying they are for sure trading Ayton the next two years but if Smith develops he certainly gives them a fall back plan.

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Post#507 » by bwgood77 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:22 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:Desmond Bane with a decent line tonight. 6-11 from field, 3-6 from 3,16 pts, 4 reb, 2 stl


:naaa:


You actually have two of my favorite rookies. Both nice picks...probably a good chance if I was drafting where you were I might have taken both of them. I remember thinking of Avdija when picking at 3 (before I knew who would be available) but wasn't sure if him and Toppin would excel a lot in the fantasy categories I usually focus on. I figured they'd be decent across the board in categories. Now Bane could be a solid scoring/3 pt/assist/steal guy.

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Post#508 » by bwgood77 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:25 pm

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darealjuice wrote:I'm not typically one to hang on previous draft picks, but not drafting Haliburton still irks me. I had him 4 and feel like it'd be easy to make compelling argument to have him higher, but somehow he ends up at 12 despite being a perfect fit for multiple teams? Then reports that he forced himself to drop because he didn't like fits and/or direction, only to choose Sacramento? Sacramento has been scrappy so far this season and could be a dark horse to sneak into the playoffs, just seems weird.

I'll also say that I was pretty anti-Jalen Smith going into the draft because I saw his best fit in the NBA being at center, but I've been pleasantly surprised so far. He still hasn't 100% convinced me that he'll be at his best at power forward, but he's been more mobile and his handle has been better than I expected. I also think he's similar to Bridges and Cam in that you can count on him to work to develop because he's disciplined and mature at a young age.
I was high on Haliburton too and would have liked that pick. The one area I did have a little concern with him and wonder if it factored into the suns decision was his lack of athletism. This suns team is already a pretty below the rim group and Smith at least profiles an above average athlete for a big. I hope it didn't but i wonder if the Ty Jerome experience spooked them from that type of guard.

I also can't help but wonder if Smith was a little 'were not 100% sure we want to pay Ayton' insurance. Not saying they are for sure trading Ayton the next two years but if Smith develops he certainly gives them a fall back plan.

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I seriously doubt Ayton played into their plan and if they prematurely are thinking of trading him. He made enormous strides in year 2 and it was Monty's first year coaching him. I'm sure Jones just thought Smith was the best player available...long term.

In 2 years we look to be in much more in need of a PG than a C...I know people like Payne but...and we also desperately needed a Booker backup. He is a very nice 3rd guard in a rotation.
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Post#509 » by jcsunsfan » Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:05 pm

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darealjuice wrote:I'm not typically one to hang on previous draft picks, but not drafting Haliburton still irks me. I had him 4 and feel like it'd be easy to make compelling argument to have him higher, but somehow he ends up at 12 despite being a perfect fit for multiple teams? Then reports that he forced himself to drop because he didn't like fits and/or direction, only to choose Sacramento? Sacramento has been scrappy so far this season and could be a dark horse to sneak into the playoffs, just seems weird.

I'll also say that I was pretty anti-Jalen Smith going into the draft because I saw his best fit in the NBA being at center, but I've been pleasantly surprised so far. He still hasn't 100% convinced me that he'll be at his best at power forward, but he's been more mobile and his handle has been better than I expected. I also think he's similar to Bridges and Cam in that you can count on him to work to develop because he's disciplined and mature at a young age.
I was high on Haliburton too and would have liked that pick. The one area I did have a little concern with him and wonder if it factored into the suns decision was his lack of athletism. This suns team is already a pretty below the rim group and Smith at least profiles an above average athlete for a big. I hope it didn't but i wonder if the Ty Jerome experience spooked them from that type of guard.

I also can't help but wonder if Smith was a little 'were not 100% sure we want to pay Ayton' insurance. Not saying they are for sure trading Ayton the next two years but if Smith develops he certainly gives them a fall back plan.

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I seriously doubt Ayton played into their plan and if they prematurely are thinking of trading him. He made enormous strides in year 2 and it was Monty's first year coaching him. I'm sure Jones just thought Smith was the best player available...long term.

In 2 years we look to be in much more in need of a PG than a C...I know people like Payne but...and we also desperately needed a Booker backup. He is a very nice 3rd guard in a rotation.


Would it not be fantastic if Cam Payne becomes our own VanVleet type story. The difference is that he could be ready to take over when CP3 hangs em up. Or they just switch roles where Cam starts and Paul comes off the bench. Not predicting, just thinking. Not sure Cam can get to that level, probably not. However, he is the third best pg we have had on this team in many years.

He is better than everyone except Rubio and Paul.
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Post#510 » by SunsLyf3 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:23 pm

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Post#511 » by sunskerr » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:26 pm

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sunskerr wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Desmond Bane with a decent line tonight. 6-11 from field, 3-6 from 3,16 pts, 4 reb, 2 stl


:naaa:


You actually have two of my favorite rookies. Both nice picks...probably a good chance if I was drafting where you were I might have taken both of them. I remember thinking of Avdija when picking at 3 (before I knew who would be available) but wasn't sure if him and Toppin would excel a lot in the fantasy categories I usually focus on. I figured they'd be decent across the board in categories. Now Bane could be a solid scoring/3 pt/assist/steal guy.

I do have Avdija in another league.


I’m sure you’ll have a chance at Bane later this year. I like him a lot but right now in Memphis he’s only getting time because Morant is gone. There’s lots of mouths to feed once Morant and JJJ are healthy, since Dillon Brooks already takes more shots than he should. I think he has a DiVincenzo outlook for the future once he leapfrogs Grayson Allen.

Avdija is really good and would be better fantasy wise if WB wasn’t such a ball hog and Scott Brooks was a better coach. His time will come though.
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Post#512 » by matt131 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:54 pm

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Post#513 » by LV-Suns » Fri Jan 1, 2021 12:48 am

As much as I liked TJ, he could just never stay healthy. I was pretty much done with him after his last injury here in Phoenix. He was always out 15-20 games every year. The best ability is availability.
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Post#514 » by oddity » Fri Jan 1, 2021 1:59 am

I just watched Haliburton go down hard and at the risk of sounding like jeff van gundy, why doesnt the NBA put padding like right underneath the basket area? That space isn't in play, and maybe that could prevent key injuries from happening.

Also the Kings look terrific.
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Post#515 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jan 1, 2021 2:16 am

oddity wrote:I just watched Haliburton go down hard and at the risk of sounding like jeff van gundy, why doesnt the NBA put padding like right underneath the basket area? That space isn't in play, and maybe that could prevent key injuries from happening.

Also the Kings look terrific.


People run under there all the time when they do layups or cross the paint underneath the basket.

I can't believe how out of shape Harden looks.
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Post#516 » by grumpysaddle » Fri Jan 1, 2021 7:27 am

TJ Warren's career reminding me of Grant Hill's a bit. Granted (see what I did there??), Hill was a generational talent, the poor luck on injuries and inability to stay on the court really sucks the life out of a promising career.
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Post#517 » by nevetsov » Fri Jan 1, 2021 11:03 am

Damn, last game the wolves started:
PG Rubio
PG Russell
SG Beasley
SG Culver
C Reid

Reminds me of that brief period when we started that 4 guard lineup of:

Kidd
KJ
Chapman
Person
Williams (I think)

Might have been playoffs vs Sonics?

I think the Bulls should be making a play for Rubio - after seeing the impact he made on our youth last season he would be a great facilitator for Lavine, Williams, Markannen and Carter. Minny could use a F like Porter to alleviate their guard heavy roster.
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Post#518 » by Revived » Fri Jan 1, 2021 12:06 pm

nevetsov wrote:Damn, last game the wolves started:
PG Rubio
PG Russell
SG Beasley
SG Culver
C Reid

Reminds me of that brief period when we started that 4 guard lineup of:

Kidd
KJ
Chapman
Person
Williams (I think)

Might have been playoffs vs Sonics?

I think the Bulls should be making a play for Rubio - after seeing the impact he made on our youth last season he would be a great facilitator for Lavine, Williams, Markannen and Carter. Minny could use a F like Porter to alleviate their guard heavy roster.

Yeah Bulls could be a good fit for him. But I wish the Wizards got Rubio somehow instead of Westbrook. He can help Beal and help change the culture there.
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Post#519 » by SunsRback4Good » Fri Jan 1, 2021 12:30 pm

grumpysaddle wrote:TJ Warren's career reminding me of Grant Hill's a bit. Granted (see what I did there??), Hill was a generational talent, the poor luck on injuries and inability to stay on the court really sucks the life out of a promising career.


The difference is one was a generational player like Lebron, Luka, Durant while other wont sniff an all star. Grant Hill before his injury was touted to be next MJ and Penny as well. Both were wiped out before their prines to devastating injuries and were never the same players again. Injuries suck so bad cause so many could've had amazing careers only to never be the same again. One player who comes to mind is DRose wish he never gotten injuries cause his game was beautiful to watch and would " wow" fans on many plays and highlights.
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grumpysaddle wrote:TJ Warren's career reminding me of Grant Hill's a bit. Granted (see what I did there??), Hill was a generational talent, the poor luck on injuries and inability to stay on the court really sucks the life out of a promising career.


The difference is one was a generational player like Lebron, Luka, Durant while other wont sniff an all star. Grant Hill before his injury was touted to be next MJ and Penny as well. Both were wiped out before their prines to devastating injuries and were never the same players again. Injuries suck so bad cause so many could've had amazing careers only to never be the same again. One player who comes to mind is DRose wish he never gotten injuries cause his game was beautiful to watch and would " wow" fans on many plays and highlights.

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