Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion

[Saberestar]

How about:
Cavs - Melo, Bled
NY - Irving, Knight
Suns - Ntilikina, Shumpert, Frye

I would do it.

[TeamTragic]

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Get it done McD. Bledsoe/Chandler for Ntilikina/picks.

[bhawk]

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It's too easy and sensible...especially with Tyson. Deal will be done quick.

It makes so, soo, soooo much sense. Get er done! Maybe sneak BK to the Knicks while we're at it...

[Saberestar]

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[ATTL]

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Thank you, holy **** that was (Please Use More Appropriate Word). Dumbest thing he's ever said, and thats saying something.

[bwgood77]

First. We are definitively the best trade partner in this Melo Cleveland Kyrie NYK deal.
Second. Zingis is not getting traded.
Third. Bledsoe Melo James and Love is better than last year.
Fourth. Kyrie and Zingis is nice
Fifth. We don't want Love if Bledsoe is gone.
Sixth. I'd take Frank and picks from NYK and Cleveland for Bledsoe.
Seventh. Melo James and Love is no better than last year.
Eighth. Kyrie and Booker don't go well together, however if it doesn't cost Jackson, I'd be willing to roll the die with Kyrie, Booker, and Jackson going forward.
Ninth. Knicks want Kyrie so eighth won't happen.
Tenth. Knicks need to give up more than Melo to get Kyrie. And that's why we come in. Cleveland wouldn't want Frank and picks over Bledsoe. So Cleveland gets Bledsoe and Melo for Kyrie....James go nowhere. Knicks get Kyrie for Melo picks and Frank. We get Frank and picks for Bledsoe.....simple trade.

I was thinking around the same thing...shocker! The only problem is Melo makes about $6 million more than Kyrie, and the Cavs are way over the cap, so they'd have to dump Shumpert or Frye or someone somewhere. I suppose it makes sense for NY to have to take it back since they are getting the better player in the swap, but then again, they are also giving up Frank. So the question then is, would NY trade Frank, Melo and take back Frye or Shumpert, Kyrie...Frye makes a little more sense for them since they just signed Hardaway....funny side note..NY drafted both Frye and Shumpert.

[ATTL]

Probably a good idea to stay off twitter as a suns fan... there are some really bad trades being thrown around by some national folks.

If twitter hasnt banned me for the depraved **** I've said so far they won't ban me for trolling today.

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It's too easy and sensible...especially with Tyson. Deal will be done quick.

It makes so, soo, soooo much sense. Get er done! Maybe sneak BK to the Knicks while we're at it...

It really sucks when Legion Hoops starts piggybacking on Schultz.

[JMac1]

First. We are definitively the best trade partner in this Melo Cleveland Kyrie NYK deal.
Second. Zingis is not getting traded.
Third. Bledsoe Melo James and Love is better than last year.
Fourth. Kyrie and Zingis is nice
Fifth. We don't want Love if Bledsoe is gone.
Sixth. I'd take Frank and picks from NYK and Cleveland for Bledsoe.
Seventh. Melo James and Love is no better than last year.
Eighth. Kyrie and Booker don't go well together, however if it doesn't cost Jackson, I'd be willing to roll the die with Kyrie, Booker, and Jackson going forward.
Ninth. Knicks want Kyrie so eighth won't happen.
Tenth. Knicks need to give up more than Melo to get Kyrie. And that's why we come in. Cleveland wouldn't want Frank and picks over Bledsoe. So Cleveland gets Bledsoe and Melo for Kyrie....James go nowhere. Knicks get Kyrie for Melo picks and Frank. We get Frank and picks for Bledsoe.....simple trade.

I was thinking around the same thing...shocker! The only problem is Melo makes about $6 million more than Kyrie, and the Cavs are way over the cap, so they'd have to dump Shumpert or Frye or someone somewhere. I suppose it makes sense for NY to have to take it back since they are getting the better player in the swap, but then again, they are also giving up Frank. So the question then is, would NY trade Frank, Melo and take back Frye or Shumpert, Kyrie...Frye makes a little more sense for them since they just signed Hardaway....funny side note..NY drafted both Frye and Shumpert.

I think they would to get Kyrie to pair with Kristaps...that's what you are more concerned with going forward.

[bwgood77]

First. We are definitively the best trade partner in this Melo Cleveland Kyrie NYK deal.
Second. Zingis is not getting traded.
Third. Bledsoe Melo James and Love is better than last year.
Fourth. Kyrie and Zingis is nice
Fifth. We don't want Love if Bledsoe is gone.
Sixth. I'd take Frank and picks from NYK and Cleveland for Bledsoe.
Seventh. Melo James and Love is no better than last year.
Eighth. Kyrie and Booker don't go well together, however if it doesn't cost Jackson, I'd be willing to roll the die with Kyrie, Booker, and Jackson going forward.
Ninth. Knicks want Kyrie so eighth won't happen.
Tenth. Knicks need to give up more than Melo to get Kyrie. And that's why we come in. Cleveland wouldn't want Frank and picks over Bledsoe. So Cleveland gets Bledsoe and Melo for Kyrie....James go nowhere. Knicks get Kyrie for Melo picks and Frank. We get Frank and picks for Bledsoe.....simple trade.

I was thinking around the same thing...shocker! The only problem is Melo makes about $6 million more than Kyrie, and the Cavs are way over the cap, so they'd have to dump Shumpert or Frye or someone somewhere. I suppose it makes sense for NY to have to take it back since they are getting the better player in the swap, but then again, they are also giving up Frank. So the question then is, would NY trade Frank, Melo and take back Frye or Shumpert, Kyrie...Frye makes a little more sense for them since they just signed Hardaway....funny side note..NY drafted both Frye and Shumpert.

I think they would to get Kyrie to pair with Kristaps...that's what you are more concerned with going forward.

Yes, I know....I was saying the same thing. Cleveland can't even take Melo on straight up for Kyrie, since he makes so much more. To take Bledsoe on top of that, Cleveland would have to send out over $20 million MORE in salary on top of sending out Kyrie. So that's why I mentioned they would have to send guys like Shumpert, Frye and others to take on both, and even if they did a straight up swap of Kyrie for Melo, they'd still need to send out one of those guys for the salaries to work.

[Blackification]

I just dont like not only missing out on Kyrie when this franchise needs a proven superstar, but instead helping another team get him and getting a question mark of a PG in return. Like if it was DSJ or Fox no questions asked, but Nkiltana had red flags all over him

[rsavaj]

Not a huge fan of a deal where we give up Bledsoe and another team gets Kyrie

[bwgood77]

So this seems to work, though picks would probably have to be involved as well, and we might have to absorb one of the contracts going to NY....if we had to do that we should get a pick.

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6916129

[sunskerr]

I'd rather have Kyrie (more of a known quantity) than Ntilikina, even with how an Irving/Booker backcourt would presumably be disastrous defensively. But hey getting out of Tyson's contract by next summer and getting an alright PG prospect is passable.

[Villalobos]

I just dont like not only missing out on Kyrie when this franchise needs a proven superstar, but instead helping another team get him and getting a question mark of a PG in return. Like if it was DSJ or Fox no questions asked, but Nkiltana had red flags all over him

I don't think Kyrie is a superstar. He's an all-star. A guy who can score a lot, look good doing it, and that's it. He doesn't make his teammates better. People forget how badly everyone looked at him before LeBron got there and also before they went on that comeback in the finals. National media guys were trashing him and theorizing Kyrie trades during the finals. Then they go on the comeback and the perception of him swings back way too much the other way. "He's a top X player in the league." Nah. He's just a great scorer and fun to watch and lucky to play with one of the best players ever. A team like NY is going to get him and he's gonna chuck up 30 shots a game and be the next Melo for them.

And yeah, too bad NY didn't draft DSJ, then this would be great.

[Qwigglez]

Kyrie was on a bad team before Lebron got there. I can't even name anyone on that roster off the top of my head besides drafting Anthony Bennett. Kyrie surrounded by the right mix of players is definitely an-star.

[Blackification]

I just dont like not only missing out on Kyrie when this franchise needs a proven superstar, but instead helping another team get him and getting a question mark of a PG in return. Like if it was DSJ or Fox no questions asked, but Nkiltana had red flags all over him

I don't think Kyrie is a superstar. He's an all-star. A guy who can score a lot, look good doing it, and that's it. He doesn't make his teammates better. People forget how badly everyone looked at him before LeBron got there and also before they went on that comeback in the finals. National media guys were trashing him and theorizing Kyrie trades during the finals. Then they go on the comeback and the perception of him swings back way too much the other way. "He's a top X player in the league." Nah. He's just a great scorer and fun to watch and lucky to play with one of the best players ever. A team like NY is going to get him and he's gonna chuck up 30 shots a game and be the next Melo for them.

And yeah, too bad NY didn't draft DSJ, then this would be great.

He is still the best player in this trade, the next best being Bledsoe who is on a great contract and is probably what we would hope Frank would even turn into. I agree superstar might be a bit much but he is still better than Frank or Bledsoe will ever be. If we don't get him that's fine but I am not happy about losing Bledsoe for Ntilikna.

Also, no matter what anyone says Kyrie is a high level enough star to bring in free agents to the team. We can't just keep bringing on these young guys who don't know what they are doing and think we are going to turn into the warriors.

[carey]

This trade is probably about the picks more than it's about Frank though Frank might be a good player eventually. Knight would become our tank commander again and we would have a ton of 1sts to play with over the next few years.

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[DirtyDez]

So this seems to work, though picks would probably have to be involved as well, and we might have to absorb one of the contracts going to NY....if we had to do that we should get a pick.

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6916129

I can't see anyway the Cavs getting Melo without giving up Love. That's quite the logjam Lebron-Melo-Love even if only for a year.

[Jingles2]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycua6kzv