2020 Season/Offseason (FA/Trade) Speculation - the Season Resumes

[JDLAW]

Aug. 20: NBA draft lottery
Oct. 6: Last day to withdraw from the draft (international players)
Oct. 13: Last day of the NBA Finals
Oct. 16: NBA draft
TBD: Salary cap and luxury tax are set for 2020-21
Oct. 17: Last day for a team or player option to be exercised (5:00 PM ET)
Oct. 17: Last day for a player to receive a qualifying offer
Oct. 18: Free-agent negotiations can begin (6:00 p.m. ET)
Oct. 19-23: Free-agency moratorium (begins 12:01 a.m. ET)
Oct. 23: Free agency begins (12:00 p.m. ET)

More detailed here ...
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29256760/2020-nba-restart-key-dates-playoffs-draft-free-agency-schedule

Do you know if you can renounce your own FAs at any time? Like, can you wait, and do it even into FA?

I believe you can, but I don't know why you would do that.

[bwgood77]

Aug. 20: NBA draft lottery
Oct. 6: Last day to withdraw from the draft (international players)
Oct. 13: Last day of the NBA Finals
Oct. 16: NBA draft
TBD: Salary cap and luxury tax are set for 2020-21
Oct. 17: Last day for a team or player option to be exercised (5:00 PM ET)
Oct. 17: Last day for a player to receive a qualifying offer
Oct. 18: Free-agent negotiations can begin (6:00 p.m. ET)
Oct. 19-23: Free-agency moratorium (begins 12:01 a.m. ET)
Oct. 23: Free agency begins (12:00 p.m. ET)

More detailed here ...
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29256760/2020-nba-restart-key-dates-playoffs-draft-free-agency-schedule

Do you know if you can renounce your own FAs at any time? Like, can you wait, and do it even into FA?

I believe you can, but I don't know why you would do that.

Just curious on rules. It's unlikely...only reason would be too keep more options open if you felt the need for whatever reason.

[phx#7]

Do you know if you can renounce your own FAs at any time? Like, can you wait, and do it even into FA?

I believe you can, but I don't know why you would do that.

Just curious on rules. It's unlikely...only reason would be too keep more options open if you felt the need for whatever reason.

Typically there is no need to actually renounce a player until you need to free up the money. Cap hold goes away once the player signs a contract with another team anyway.

[bwgood77]

I believe you can, but I don't know why you would do that.

Just curious on rules. It's unlikely...only reason would be too keep more options open if you felt the need for whatever reason.

Typically there is no need to actually renounce a player until you need to free up the money. Cap hold goes away once the player signs a contract with another team anyway.

So basically we won't renounce anyone unless we find a big upgrade in FA that we think we need to sign, which is unlikely. With guys like Frank, Diallo, Payne, and maybe Okobo, we will have to picked up team options or in Okobo's case, I think waived, because his contract is not guaranteed. And then you have the QO for Saric and Carter, but no reason to renounce Baynes. And I think Saric's cap hold is like double his QO, which is kind of weird...though I may be wrong on that.

[JDLAW]

Cap hold rules for an RFA are a bit muddled, I am not surprised his cap hold is 2x his QO.

[phx#7]

Just curious on rules. It's unlikely...only reason would be too keep more options open if you felt the need for whatever reason.

Typically there is no need to actually renounce a player until you need to free up the money. Cap hold goes away once the player signs a contract with another team anyway.

So basically we won't renounce anyone unless we find a big upgrade in FA that we think we need to sign, which is unlikely. With guys like Frank, Diallo, Payne, and maybe Okobo, we will have to picked up team options or in Okobo's case, I think waived, because his contract is not guaranteed. And then you have the QO for Saric and Carter, but no reason to renounce Baynes. And I think Saric's cap hold is like double his QO, which is kind of weird...though I may be wrong on that.

QO is lower because it's just based on the same rookie scale with an annual increase while the cap hold for guys coming off their rookie contract is 250-300% of the previous year. It's only at 150-90% for guys coming off non-rookie deals.

[phx#7]

I think it's pretty much a lock that the Suns decline Okobo and Frank's options and pick up Carter's. Other than that I think they'll just wait to see how free agency unfolds before committing to any other moves.

[bigfoot]

I think it's pretty much a lock that the Suns decline Okobo and Frank's options and pick up Carter's. Other than that I think they'll just wait to see how free agency unfolds before committing to any other moves.

They will probably decline options on Okobo, Diallo, and Frank making them UFAs but we hold bird rights
They will certainly accept the option on Payne
Qualifying offers to Carter and Saric
Hopefully, they make a decent offer to Baynes
Maybe use MLE to pick up another good bench player

This is the most likely scenario unless a superstar stud wants to come to Phoenix and then we would have to work some trades to make it happen.

Of course this doesn't really matter because the Nets have things wrapped up next year with Durant and Irving returning.

[AtheJ415]

Yeah, I really don't see the Suns dumping Frank. He's a relatively cheap insurance policy if we can't come to an agreement with Baynes.

Insurance in what way? He is one of the worst players in the league. Opportunity cost is any vet min guy, who worst case would be no worse than Stanky Franky.

He can't defend, can't pass, is unathletic, is a supposed shooter but doesn't hit at a high clip but thinks of himself as one because he's trigger happy so he doesn't even pass well. The dude is straight flaming garbage.

[Mjee]

We need to find another all star to pair with Book this offseason.... I don’t care if we trade a bunch of first round picks

Time to make some bold moves !!!

[Qwigglez]

Drop Frank and get Tolliver. If we are going to get a non defensive big, get one that can actually shoot. No more projects at the end of our bench, get quality veterans that know their role. Run this **** back and see how well we do.

[AtheJ415]

We need to find another all star to pair with Book this offseason.... I don’t care if we trade a bunch of first round picks

Time to make some bold moves !!!

Only all star guard that MIGHT become available soon is Beal

[AtheJ415]

Van Vleet would be a great fit for this team but is going to be pricey. I think Grant Riller is a similar type of player. I have good feelings about Vassell and Riller in the draft, but if we're trying to upgrade PF and combo guard, I don't see a PF in FA or trade market who is going to move the needle. Millsap and guys like that are low value over a vet min dude. The best combo might be to get Van Vleet and draft Topping or Avdija.

PG -- Van Vleet, Rubio (Yes, Van Vleet is better than Rubio at this point in their careers)
SG -- Booker, Van Vleet
SF -- Mikal, Oubre
PF -- Cam, Oubre
C -- Ayton, Baynes (maybe depending on cost and MLE)

[Qwigglez]

I really don’t want to mess with this team chemistry. I think we have the foundation made right now to be a team like the Raptors where they have really solid players all around. I don’t think we need to trade for a star and instead hopefully get someone else to elevate their game (Bridges/Ayton/Oubre).

[ATTL]

If karma exists then the suns should jump into the top 4 in the lotto.

Seeing how well Cam progressed I have confidence in JJ getting a good player no matter where we land.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[Ghost of Kleine]

If karma exists then the suns should jump into the top 4 in the lotto.

Seeing how well Cam progressed I have confidence in JJ getting a good player no matter where we land.

With respect to that though, What would you say is the 1 thing that this team lacked the most ( in the bubble) that caused us to repeatedly give up leads, Perimeter defense out to the 3, RIM PROTECTION ( in my opinion), rebounding? And once we accurately identify our most glaring weakness, We should utilize our pick on a player that will fully address that need for us. Then bring everyone back on 1 yr deals, And run it back with even more depth!!! ( Just in case).

[Slim Charless]

We need to find another all star to pair with Book this offseason.... I don’t care if we trade a bunch of first round picks

Time to make some bold moves !!!

Only all star guard that MIGHT become available soon is Beal

IDK. I can Simmons depending on how the playoffs play out for Philly. They might let him and Embiid start the season together too and then make a trade at the deadline. Enough time for us to build up Oubre's value

[bwgood77]

I would keep mentioning VanVleet if I thought there was any chance Toronto wasn't going to pay him whatever they need for him to stay. If we did have a chance to get him I would let the other guys go (obviously you can't get him with the MLE).

[Slim Charless]

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Ugh. Just seeing him slither out of his hole makes me nervous. Don't mess this up Bobby. Just write checks and collect your millions. Stay away from the team decisions and let JJ/Monty do their thing.