2016 Draft Thread Part 4

Post #541 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:56 pm

I don't think I've ever studied or been as familiar with this many of the prospects in the draft. I mean it is going to be extremely interesting well into the second round and probably all the way to the end of the draft.

saintEscaton · Post #542 » by **saintEscaton** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:58 pm

IMO a bouncier Marvin Williams with shot blocking minus intangibles isn't Chriss's floor. He could very well end up being Stromile Swift with a jumper

sunsbum · Post #543 » by **sunsbum** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:03 pm

saintEscaton wrote:IMO a bouncier Marvin Williams with shot blocking minus intangibles isn't Chriss's floor. He could very well end up being Stromile Swift with a jumper

Thaaaasts it. I've HAD IT!!! I hate this draft spot.

Post #544 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:04 pm

Coro's mock has us taking Bender. Not sure how much insight he has.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2016/06/16/nba-mock-draft-paul-coros-second-edition/85975976/

MrMiyagi · Post #545 » by **MrMiyagi** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:04 pm

saintEscaton wrote:IMO a bouncier Marvin Williams with shot blocking minus intangibles isn't Chriss's floor. He could very well end up being Stromile Swift with a jumper

So the GOAT? :lol:

GetYourPHX · Post #546 » by **GetYourPHX** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:06 pm

saintEscaton wrote:IMO a bouncier Marvin Williams with shot blocking minus intangibles isn't Chriss's floor. He could very well end up being Stromile Swift with a jumper

Just like Bender's floor is Jan Vesely.

Just like Hield's floor is Jimmer.

Just like Murray's floor is Jerryd Bayless.

I mean, this draft is sorely lacking in high-end prospects. There are exactly two. Everyone from 3-8 has a significant flaw in their game and 8-35 is an absolute cluster.

Chriss and Bender have the highest ceilings in my opinion. The "winner" of this draft is going to be the team that can coach up one of those two.

Saberestar · Post #547 » by **Saberestar** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:07 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
dantley4prez wrote:
darealjuice wrote:This is stupid and probably means nothing, but Marquese Chriss and Dejounte Murray both follow Coach Watson on Twitter now lol. Watson followed back Murray too.

Wow I need it it to be Thursday so I can stop looking into stupid **** like this.

at this moment, Marquese is following Coach, but Coach is not following Marquese. i don't know.....who knows? we'll see

It doesn't look like he's following Brad Stevens though. Any other coaches?

I prepared myself to see our team drafting Chriss at #4 and Dejounte Murray at #13. :nonono:

saintEscaton · Post #548 » by **saintEscaton** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:10 pm

sunsbum wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:IMO a bouncier Marvin Williams with shot blocking minus intangibles isn't Chriss's floor. He could very well end up being Stromile Swift with a jumper

Thaaaasts it. I've HAD IT!!! I hate this draft spot.

I'm all for swinging for the fences but you still gotta consider opportunity cost and take a calculated risk. The dropoff isn't considerable unless you envision Chriss becoming the lovechild of Prime STAT/Ibaka he's not worth the reach. He could just as easily washout of the league and end up in China if he doesn't put it together before the completion of his rookie contract

Post #549 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:12 pm

saintEscaton wrote:
sunsbum wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:IMO a bouncier Marvin Williams with shot blocking minus intangibles isn't Chriss's floor. He could very well end up being Stromile Swift with a jumper

Thaaaasts it. I've HAD IT!!! I hate this draft spot.

I'm all for swinging for the fences but you still gotta consider opportunity cost and take a calculated risk. The dropoff isn't considerable unless you envision Chriss becoming the lovechild of Prime STAT/Ibaka he's not worth the reach. He could just as easily washout of the league and end up in China if he doesn't put it together by the end of his rookie contract

Yeah, that's my fear, and at 13 I loved the risk, but at 4 it makes me nervous. I'll be much more ok with it if Bender is off the board when we pick, but my gut tells me he might not be.

darealjuice · Post #550 » by **darealjuice** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:15 pm

I'm just happy that we were able to fleece the Wizards for the #13 pick

Post #551 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:17 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:
sunsbum wrote:
Thaaaasts it. I've HAD IT!!! I hate this draft spot.

I'm all for swinging for the fences but you still gotta consider opportunity cost and take a calculated risk. The dropoff isn't considerable unless you envision Chriss becoming the lovechild of Prime STAT/Ibaka he's not worth the reach. He could just as easily washout of the league and end up in China if he doesn't put it together by the end of his rookie contract

Yeah, that's my fear, and at 13 I loved the risk, but at 4 it makes me nervous. I'll be much more ok with it if Bender is off the board when we pick, but my gut tells me he might not be.

IF, McD goes with Chriss. My gut says he'll be sacked this time next year. Edit: Sarver sacks him no matter who they pick. Lol

8on · Post #552 » by **8on** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:21 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/744995141824438272[/tweet]

......could be.

could be our 2007 Boston moment. ah man......i can't wait

SkinnyOMiller · Post #553 » by **SkinnyOMiller** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:23 pm

GetYourPHX wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:IMO a bouncier Marvin Williams with shot blocking minus intangibles isn't Chriss's floor. He could very well end up being Stromile Swift with a jumper

Just like Bender's floor is Jan Vesely.

Just like Hield's floor is Jimmer.

Just like Murray's floor is Jerryd Bayless.

I mean, this draft is sorely lacking in high-end prospects. There are exactly two. Everyone from 3-8 has a significant flaw in their game and 8-35 is an absolute cluster.

Chriss and Bender have the highest ceilings in my opinion. The "winner" of this draft is going to be the team that can coach up one of those two.

If I was going to invest that high of a pick in a guy like Chriss, I'd plan on having a specialist for him to work with. I'd have him work with guys like Hakeem, Cliff Robinson, maybe a Detlef Schrempf, just let him get exposed to guys that can teach him to play inside and outside, fundamentals, shooting....etc.

Post #554 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:23 pm

dantley4prez wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/744995141824438272[/tweet]

......could be.

could be our 2007 Boston moment. ah man......i can't wait

For Boston/ Lakers. Doubt the Suns pull off a blockbuster.

SkinnyOMiller · Post #555 » by **SkinnyOMiller** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:24 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:
I'm all for swinging for the fences but you still gotta consider opportunity cost and take a calculated risk. The dropoff isn't considerable unless you envision Chriss becoming the lovechild of Prime STAT/Ibaka he's not worth the reach. He could just as easily washout of the league and end up in China if he doesn't put it together by the end of his rookie contract

Yeah, that's my fear, and at 13 I loved the risk, but at 4 it makes me nervous. I'll be much more ok with it if Bender is off the board when we pick, but my gut tells me he might not be.

IF, McD goes with Chriss. My gut says he'll be sacked this time next year. Edit: Sarver sacks him no matter who they pick. Lol

No reason not to give McDonough the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the draft. I'll keep an open mind on whomever they end up selecting.

8on · Post #556 » by **8on** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:27 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
dantley4prez wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/744995141824438272[/tweet]

......could be.

could be our 2007 Boston moment. ah man......i can't wait

For Boston/ Lakers. Doubt the Suns pull off a blockbuster.

I would say "Boston can't offer what we can! come on......be optimistic!" but then I remembered that I'm a Suns fan, and that's not how we roll.

darealjuice · Post #557 » by **darealjuice** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:28 pm

Pessimism and Suns fans go together like a horse and a carraige

Post #558 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:28 pm

SkinnyOMiller wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Yeah, that's my fear, and at 13 I loved the risk, but at 4 it makes me nervous. I'll be much more ok with it if Bender is off the board when we pick, but my gut tells me he might not be.

IF, McD goes with Chriss. My gut says he'll be sacked this time next year. Edit: Sarver sacks him no matter who they pick. Lol

No reason not to give McDonough the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the draft. I'll keep an open mind on whomever they end up selecting.

Let's face it, this team ain't gonna win many games next season. Sarver is impatient. My money says McD is gone sooner than later.

darealjuice · Post #559 » by **darealjuice** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:29 pm

I'd take that money. I'll be seriously surprised if McD isn't the GM in 2017-2018.

sunsbum · Post #560 » by **sunsbum** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:30 pm

dantley4prez wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/744995141824438272[/tweet]

......could be.

could be our 2007 Boston moment. ah man......i can't wait

YOU DONT SAY..... :roll:

P.s. Is your name pronounced jerry or gary? P.p.s. i dont care.

Who do you most want at 4?