The MoBro's Show

[phrazbit]

Bledsoe is less of a misfit, perhaps, but...

Wow. That one line really takes a dump on that guy's credibility. You don't like Bledsoe, fine, but to say he is only "perhaps" less of a misfit than a guy with an extreme DUI when Bledsoe's ONLY knock on his behavior is that some of the fans don't think he smiles enough... and they hate him for it.

What a bunch of garbage.

A case can be made to blow the team up and start over, and that would naturally involve trading Bledsoe because he is a big trade asset but this blogger's reasoning is idiotic. Just another Dragic fan boy with a larger loud horn to spout his non-sense from.

[bigfoot]

Realistically these two fools are going no where. Interesting article on BTOS saying we should move Tucker and Bledsoe. For once I agree with these two-bit bloggers ... http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2015/ ... p-j-tucker

So we should trade our two best perimeter defenders because PJ Tucker is a thug and Eric Bledsoe isn't relatable to the old, white, retiree population of Arizona? Got it.

We should trade them because

1) Tucker is not a leader you want your young players to emulate. He is 30 and will not be part of the completed rebuild in a few years. Get value while you can.

2) Bledsoe and Knight are redundant. Knight is much more relateable than Bledsoe and, SURPRISE, both happen to been African American ... that completely wipes out your ridiculous ageist and racist comment. We need to get back to the traditional big shooting guard. Knight is younger than Bledsoe and is a much better shooter.

[SunsFanSSOL]

Realistically these two fools are going no where. Interesting article on BTOS saying we should move Tucker and Bledsoe. For once I agree with these two-bit bloggers ... http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2015/ ... p-j-tucker

So we should trade our two best perimeter defenders because PJ Tucker is a thug and Eric Bledsoe isn't relatable to the old, white, retiree population of Arizona? Got it.

We should trade them because

1) Tucker is not a leader you want your young players to emulate. He is 30 and will not be part of the completed rebuild in a few years. Get value while you can.

2) Bledsoe and Knight are redundant. Knight is much more relateable than Bledsoe and, SURPRISE, both happen to been African American ... that completely wipes out your ridiculous ageist and racist comment. We need to get back to the traditional big shooting guard. Knight is younger than Bledsoe and is a much better shooter.

I wouldn't have said what I did had the author not said this:

Basketball fans in Phoenix have traditionally enjoyed a special kind of relationship with their players. A connection that has gone past pure basketball skills and definitely treads into the realm of character... of personality.

I doubt that fans will ever have that kind of relationship with Eric Bledsoe.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? Why is the author performing character assassination on a player because he doesn't smile enough? Why don't Spurs fans demand Duncan and Kawhi be traded, they do the same thing. There's obviously some ulterior motive in his writing.

And as for your point about Knight, what's the difference between he and Bledsoe that makes him more relatable and "a better ambassador" for the Suns. Both are non-chalant, unselfish, charitable to their communities and endeared by their teammates, so what separates them? The fact that Eric Bledsoe has sleeves of tattoos unlike Knight? The fact that Bledsoe grew up in poverty in the housing projects of Birmingham, whereas Knight grew up in a middle class family in Fort Lauderdale? The fact Bledsoe grew up without his dad in the picture, whereas Knight was lucky enough to grow up with 2 loving parents? The fact Bledsoe is an unmarried father of 2, whereas Brandon Knight has no baby mama? The fact Bledsoe isn't fortunate to be as well spoken or well educated as Knight? Please tell me your perception of what truly separates the two, I'd love to pick your brain.

I like both Bledsoe and Knight a lot, but Bledsoe is clearly the better player. It is asinine to trade Bledsoe because of some Phoenicians irrational hatred of him. A lot of Suns fans have hated Bledsoe from the moment he got here. If Bledsoe played in a market such as LA, Atlanta, Houston, New York or San Francisco, I doubt he would catch nearly as much flak for his "personality." Zoran Dragic was more well received than Bledsoe and he was a scrub.

The fact that you and the author even mention Bledsoe in the same regard as players facing DUI and assault charges is insulting, demeaning and ignorant.

[bwgood77]

So we should trade our two best perimeter defenders because PJ Tucker is a thug and Eric Bledsoe isn't relatable to the old, white, retiree population of Arizona? Got it.

We should trade them because

1) Tucker is not a leader you want your young players to emulate. He is 30 and will not be part of the completed rebuild in a few years. Get value while you can.

2) Bledsoe and Knight are redundant. Knight is much more relateable than Bledsoe and, SURPRISE, both happen to been African American ... that completely wipes out your ridiculous ageist and racist comment. We need to get back to the traditional big shooting guard. Knight is younger than Bledsoe and is a much better shooter.

I wouldn't have said what I did had the author not said this:

Basketball fans in Phoenix have traditionally enjoyed a special kind of relationship with their players. A connection that has gone past pure basketball skills and definitely treads into the realm of character... of personality.

I doubt that fans will ever have that kind of relationship with Eric Bledsoe.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? Why is the author performing character assassination on a player because he doesn't smile enough? Why don't Spurs fans demand Duncan and Kawhi be traded, they do the same thing. There's obviously some ulterior motive in his writing.

And as for your point about Knight, what's the difference between he and Bledsoe that makes him more relatable and "a better ambassador" for the Suns. Both are non-chalant, unselfish, charitable to their communities and endeared by their teammates, so what separates them? The fact that Eric Bledsoe has sleeves of tattoos unlike Knight? The fact that Bledsoe grew up in poverty in the housing projects of Birmingham, whereas Knight grew up in a middle class family in Fort Lauderdale? The fact Bledsoe grew up without his dad in the picture, whereas Knight was lucky enough to grow up with 2 loving parents? The fact Bledsoe is an unmarried father of 2, whereas Brandon Knight has no baby mama? The fact Bledsoe isn't fortunate to be as well spoken or well educated as Knight? Please tell me your perception of what truly separates the two, I'd love to pick your brain.

I like both Bledsoe and Knight a lot, but Bledsoe is clearly the better player. It is asinine to trade Bledsoe because of some Phoenicians irrational hatred of him. A lot of Suns fans have hated Bledsoe from the moment he got here. If Bledsoe played in a market such as LA, Atlanta, Houston, New York or San Francisco, I doubt he would catch nearly as much flak for his "personality." Zoran Dragic was more well received than Bledsoe and he was a scrub.

The fact that you and the author even mention Bledsoe in the same regard as players facing DUI and assault charges is insulting, demeaning and ignorant.

I agree with you, but unfortunately it is true. The only part I'm not sure about is whether or not Bledsoe is better than Knight. I haven't watched Knight enough to know. I think together they will compensate for the other's strengths/weaknesses, except they both have high turnover rates. Hopefully with both of them, this will help in that regard because they won't have to force things as much.

[bigfoot]

And as for your point about Knight, what's the difference between he and Bledsoe that makes him more relatable and "a better ambassador" for the Suns.

Simple ... Bledsoe is supposed to be the leader of this team. Instead he conspires with Tucker and the Morri by hiding in the showers and coming out together at the last minute in order to dodge the media questions. If he wants to be the man he needs to step up and work with the media and fans. So far he hasn't shown any leadership in two seasons. Isn't that what you would expect from an ambassador for the Suns?

A lot of Suns fans have hated Bledsoe from the moment he got here.

Never said I hated Bledsoe. He's a fine basketball player and I'm certain a very decent parent and human being. I'd just rather have Knight running the PG and trade Bledsoe to fill a different position.

The fact that you and the author even mention Bledsoe in the same regard as players facing DUI and assault charges is insulting, demeaning and ignorant.

I don't have any problem pointing out that Bledsoe prefers to hang with Tucker (DUI) and the Morri (assault). Maybe you should tell him to watch the company he keeps.

[batsmasher]

And as for your point about Knight, what's the difference between he and Bledsoe that makes him more relatable and "a better ambassador" for the Suns.

Simple ... Bledsoe is supposed to be the leader of this team. Instead he conspires with Tucker and the Morri by hiding in the showers and coming out together at the last minute in order to dodge the media questions. If he wants to be the man he needs to step up and work with the media and fans. So far he hasn't shown any leadership in two seasons. Isn't that what you would expect from an ambassador for the Suns?

In the past two seasons I agree. He hasn't shown any signs of being a leader. But this season is different. I'm getting a fantastic vibe from Bled (and to be honest with you, I'm haven't been his biggest fan). He's been at a bunch of the draft workouts, is staying in Phoenix all off-season and it seems like he's got the memo that we need a leader. He also retweeted this article a couple of weeks ago. Bled's starting to get it. It's starting to click for him. Giving up on him now would be insanely stupid. But please, trade the Morrii and PJ and let him have a fresh go at becoming a superstar.

[RunDogGun]

I'm still never going to be on board with trading our two best defenders, regardless of their ages. Plus then I'll have to read everyone complaining that our defense sucks.

[bigfoot]

I'm still never going to be on board with trading our two best defenders, regardless of their ages. Plus then I'll have to read everyone complaining that our defense sucks.

Yeah but our defense did suck because we got beat 43 times last season with Tucker and Bledsoe playing. People forget we lost 10 of our last 11 games and went 10-19 after the all-star break (big trade). In last half of the season we were bad defensively.

[letsgosuns]

Bledsoe and Tucker are the two best defenders on a bad defensive team so of course they will stand out. The main problem is that it is not possible to be a good defensive team when you are A) so undersized and B) have major holes in your defense (Morris brothers). Bledsoe at 6'1" and Knight at 6'3" is not going to get you anywhere. And you are certainly not going to get anywhere when your starting power forward who plays the majority of the game is a terrible rebounder.

At this point I feel so detached from this Suns roster I would trade anyone besides Alex Len to get better. I really do not care. Trade Bledsoe and let Knight walk if you have to. I want the Suns to get better and I do not see one player besides Len that should be untouchable. I would like to hold onto Goodwin and Warren as well but they are not nearly as untouchable to me as Len is.

Hell why not salary dump Bledsoe, Tucker, and the Morris Brothers and that saves 32 million dollars. Renounce all your free agents besides Knight whose cap hold I believe is 9 million dollars. By doing all that, the Suns would have like 40+ million in cap space. Go out and sign Danny Green, Demarre Carroll, Paul Millsap, Amare Stoudemire, and re-sign Knight, then Wright at a lower number than his cap hold if you can, and maybe Granger too after you get all the other signings in place. Draft the best player available and plug them into the lineup.

New lineup is:
Knight/someone
D. Green/Goodwin
Carroll/Warren/Granger
Millsap/Stoudemire
Len/Wright

Somebody tell me that that lineup does not look so much better than what the Suns have going for them right now.

[lilfishi22]

Bledsoe and Tucker are the two best defenders on a bad defensive team so of course they will stand out. The main problem is that it is not possible to be a good defensive team when you are A) so undersized and B) have major holes in your defense (Morris brothers). Bledsoe at 6'1" and Knight at 6'3" is not going to get you anywhere. And you are certainly not going to get anywhere when your starting power forward who plays the majority of the game is a terrible rebounder.

At this point I feel so detached from this Suns roster I would trade anyone besides Alex Len to get better. I really do not care. Trade Bledsoe and let Knight walk if you have to. I want the Suns to get better and I do not see one player besides Len that should be untouchable. I would like to hold onto Goodwin and Warren as well but they are not nearly as untouchable to me as Len is.

Hell why not salary dump Bledsoe, Tucker, and the Morris Brothers and that saves 32 million dollars. Renounce all your free agents besides Knight whose cap hold I believe is 9 million dollars. By doing all that, the Suns would have like 40+ million in cap space. Go out and sign Danny Green, Demarre Carroll, Paul Millsap, Amare Stoudemire, and re-sign Knight, then Wright at a lower number than his cap hold if you can, and maybe Granger too after you get all the other signings in place. Draft the best player available and plug them into the lineup.

New lineup is:
Knight/someone
D. Green/Goodwin
Carroll/Warren/Granger
Millsap/Stoudemire
Len/Wright

Somebody tell me that that lineup does not look so much better than what the Suns have going for them right now.

You had some good points in the first half of your post then you kind of went overboard, so I'm not sure if you're being serious about salary dumping Bledsoe, Tucker and MoBros

[letsgosuns]

Bledsoe and Tucker are the two best defenders on a bad defensive team so of course they will stand out. The main problem is that it is not possible to be a good defensive team when you are A) so undersized and B) have major holes in your defense (Morris brothers). Bledsoe at 6'1" and Knight at 6'3" is not going to get you anywhere. And you are certainly not going to get anywhere when your starting power forward who plays the majority of the game is a terrible rebounder.

At this point I feel so detached from this Suns roster I would trade anyone besides Alex Len to get better. I really do not care. Trade Bledsoe and let Knight walk if you have to. I want the Suns to get better and I do not see one player besides Len that should be untouchable. I would like to hold onto Goodwin and Warren as well but they are not nearly as untouchable to me as Len is.

Hell why not salary dump Bledsoe, Tucker, and the Morris Brothers and that saves 32 million dollars. Renounce all your free agents besides Knight whose cap hold I believe is 9 million dollars. By doing all that, the Suns would have like 40+ million in cap space. Go out and sign Danny Green, Demarre Carroll, Paul Millsap, Amare Stoudemire, and re-sign Knight, then Wright at a lower number than his cap hold if you can, and maybe Granger too after you get all the other signings in place. Draft the best player available and plug them into the lineup.

New lineup is:
Knight/someone
D. Green/Goodwin
Carroll/Warren/Granger
Millsap/Stoudemire
Len/Wright

Somebody tell me that that lineup does not look so much better than what the Suns have going for them right now.

You had some good points in the first half of your post then you kind of went overboard, so I'm not sure if you're being serious about salary dumping Bledsoe, Tucker and MoBros

I am just throwing out ideas to change the team. I would want something in return for those players, especially Bledsoe. But the key is not taking back any contracts so whichever team you trade them too has the ability to just absorb the contract. Like for Bledsoe, I would trade him to New York for the fourth pick in the draft and nothing else. For Tucker, I would trade him to a contending team for like a future draft pick. The Morris brothers I would salary dump for anything as long the Suns are not taking a contract back. If the Suns can do all that on draft night, those moves would free up 30+ million in cap space this offseason in addition to acquiring more assets. All hypothetical though.

[RunDogGun]

I'm still never going to be on board with trading our two best defenders, regardless of their ages. Plus then I'll have to read everyone complaining that our defense sucks.

Yeah but our defense did suck because we got beat 43 times last season with Tucker and Bledsoe playing. People forget we lost 10 of our last 11 games and went 10-19 after the all-star break (big trade). In last half of the season we were bad defensively.

We were playing younger guys that weren't very established. I don't think we can blame our losses on Bledsoe and Tucker. We traded a third of our team before the deadline, and only really added Knight, who only could play nine games.

Anyways, I don't think trading our two best defenders makes us a better team, in any way shape or form. Plus, two guys can't guard everyone, although I think we asked Tucker to guard every position.

[Damkac]

Spoiler:

So we should trade our two best perimeter defenders because PJ Tucker is a thug and Eric Bledsoe isn't relatable to the old, white, retiree population of Arizona? Got it.

We should trade them because

1) Tucker is not a leader you want your young players to emulate. He is 30 and will not be part of the completed rebuild in a few years. Get value while you can.

2) Bledsoe and Knight are redundant. Knight is much more relateable than Bledsoe and, SURPRISE, both happen to been African American ... that completely wipes out your ridiculous ageist and racist comment. We need to get back to the traditional big shooting guard. Knight is younger than Bledsoe and is a much better shooter.

I wouldn't have said what I did had the author not said this:

Basketball fans in Phoenix have traditionally enjoyed a special kind of relationship with their players. A connection that has gone past pure basketball skills and definitely treads into the realm of character... of personality.

I doubt that fans will ever have that kind of relationship with Eric Bledsoe.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? Why is the author performing character assassination on a player because he doesn't smile enough? Why don't Spurs fans demand Duncan and Kawhi be traded, they do the same thing. There's obviously some ulterior motive in his writing.

And as for your point about Knight, what's the difference between he and Bledsoe that makes him more relatable and "a better ambassador" for the Suns. Both are non-chalant, unselfish, charitable to their communities and endeared by their teammates, so what separates them? The fact that Eric Bledsoe has sleeves of tattoos unlike Knight? The fact that Bledsoe grew up in poverty in the housing projects of Birmingham, whereas Knight grew up in a middle class family in Fort Lauderdale? The fact Bledsoe grew up without his dad in the picture, whereas Knight was lucky enough to grow up with 2 loving parents? The fact Bledsoe is an unmarried father of 2, whereas Brandon Knight has no baby mama? The fact Bledsoe isn't fortunate to be as well spoken or well educated as Knight? Please tell me your perception of what truly separates the two, I'd love to pick your brain.

I like both Bledsoe and Knight a lot, but Bledsoe is clearly the better player. It is asinine to trade Bledsoe because of some Phoenicians irrational hatred of him. A lot of Suns fans have hated Bledsoe from the moment he got here. If Bledsoe played in a market such as LA, Atlanta, Houston, New York or San Francisco, I doubt he would catch nearly as much flak for his "personality." Zoran Dragic was more well received than Bledsoe and he was a scrub.

The fact that you and the author even mention Bledsoe in the same regard as players facing DUI and assault charges is insulting, demeaning and ignorant.

If people wants Bledsoea traded it's because:
A. They don't like his lack of playmaking abilities (they watched Steve Nash for years!)
B. They don't like 2 pg lineup
C. They fear Suns will become mediocre team for years and want to trade veterans for picks which would make the team better long term
Don't think anybody want him traded because of his personality. Morris bros are hated because of their attitude not Bledsoe.

[DirtyDez]

The Twins are a distraction on and off the court. Even if we don't get equal or greater value in return the team could still improve based on team morale and upgraded depth with the available cap space that would be created.

I would like to move up with Sacramento whos coach has excellent history with troubled players. I think we would have to overpay for #6 by giving the Twins, #13 and possibly taking back an overrated scrub.

I want Henozja and Warren on the wing.

[Saberestar]

Next court date for Marcus and Markieff Morris is a Pretrial conference on 8/3 at 8:30 before Judge Sinclair.

https://mobile.twitter.com/courtpio/status/615914419550158848

[Fo-Real]

Yeah.... suprisingly no movement to a resolution it seems. Just setting future dates, looks like this thing is gonna drag out. Two co-defendants (Ice Cube, and cracked out Chris Rock lookin dudes), all just going through the motions and setting dates. Also getting permission to travel for the next month for the Bros and one other co-defendant.

[Frank Lee]

For those of you scoffing at the idea of jail time..... from BrightSide

.........According to this site, any aggravated assault conviction carries prison time:

If convicted of Aggravated Assault as a dangerous offense, even as a first offense, you will go to prison.

While your criminal history and the circumstances of your crime will impact the length of your sentence, even those facing a first offense may face from 5 to 15 years in prison. For a second conviction the sentence can increase to as much as 10 to 20 years in prison and a third conviction can be as much as 15 to 25 years.

While there is a substantial risk of jail time, there is still flexibility in the significant range of recommended years a person can be sentenced. An experienced, aggressive attorney will fight to ensure you receive the shortest prison sentence allowed by law.

It is in the twins best interest to plea down the charges to simple assault to avoid jail time, but there is no indication yet that the Maricopa County Attorneys Office has any interest in that plan.

UPDATE: The Morris twins, as expected, pled NOT GUILTY to the charges today. The next step is the pretrial conference on June 30.

These guys are on an island right now. I have to think their stonewalling FOE demeanor aggravated the process. If this trial goes on, I wonder what the FO reaction will be ? I think it is reasonable to give them time off with pay until they have resolved the issue. Allow them full access to the team/practices/arena, but suits on the sidelines. Brooks Brothers for now, possible orange jumpers later ????

[JTrain]

This is so tempting to photoshop...

[bigfoot]

This is so tempting to photoshop...

Yeah just add some vertical jail bars in the picture frame ... perfect!

[Phystic]

Those are the standard sentences for an aggravated assault but they aren't at all written in stone. And employee of mine was convicted of aggravated assault and he got a couple of months and was out on probation and anger management classes. Granted he didn't jump some dude and it isn't the whole "make an example out of them" type situation but still. I still don't see them getting years in prison.