bigfoot wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
Well, they lucked out in getting the #2 pick...jumped us..we would have taken Ja. Other than that they've drafted 3 PFs in the last 3 years. I did like JJJ and obviously Clarke though, especially at 21...a lot of other teams passed on Clarke though.
This regimes worst pick is Jerome.
Of course the pick that set us back the most by not taking the alternative many here wanted, was Ayton over Doncic. Jackson over Fox and Isaac were bad too, as was Bender over Murray or Hield...or trading Bogdan, 13 and 28 for Chriss..could have taken LeVert, Dejounte Murray and kept Bogdan instead of trading for Chriss.
It's been a HELL of a lot worse. Kendall Marshall?
You sure seem pissed off for a guy that has watched all this.
I expect us to act competently. Massive incompetence in the past is not an excuse to accept minor incompetence now. The asset management is still bottom 5 in the league if I'm being generous. That should concern the hell out of everybody, and I'm sick of watching casual fans who had no idea who the pick was and/or didn't want him before the draft, suddenly excusing it and all else based on bad logic. There are a ton of guys who could have helped us in this draft. It is deep. We need depth. And we locked in at $8 mil a year a guy who was at best questionable to go where he did, and we have no assets to jump in to get at 30+ a bunch of guys we had valued as acceptable around 10th. But our poor management for the past 2 years has prevented that. And everyone excuses it.
More than that, we can't really be hopeful going forward in a draft under Jones. Luka was the big miss, but can you say in a re-draft there is ANY chance Jones takes Luka? Jones wants heady defenders who can shoot the 3 and pass. Luka coming out could pass. He was a bad defender who couldn't shoot. No way Jones picks him. Shouldn't that type of tunnel vision when it comes to a draft, and the lack of urgency to get assets when available, concern every single fan here?
1) Smith is not $8M per year. More like $4.25M
2) This draft was not considered a very deep draft. There was no real consensus #1 pick and in a COVID non-NCCA tourney year, it was really hard to gauge value.
2) Do you know for sure who the Suns wanted around 10th? No ... you only know what Gambo and others may have predicated and mocks. Those people didn't have interviews or workouts with the prospects.
3) Jones didn't draft Ayton. That was McD.
4) I am actually way more hopeful with Jones going forward with our drafts. He's not blinded by the 18-year-old uber athletes with potential. Shooters, defenders, high IQ guys, older players, character all matter.
1. $8.5 Mil guaranteed hitting the cap for Jalen.
2. Yes, it universally is. The draft has (FOR YEARS, because scouting happens more than just the year before), been considered as having strength in the middle and in its depth. There was no top, but that has nothing to do with depth. Many people liked the middle and bottom of this draft for value.
2b, Because you misnumbered: I have never contended we didn't want Smith so no idea what you are talking about. I know we were high on Bane and Kira and some others because we worked them out and interviewed them. Our head coach flew to their school.
3. What I stated, if you'd read it, is that Jones wouldn't have drafted Luka, because he did not do the vast majority of things Jones values. Jackson (coming out of school) screams as the guy Jones would have taken. A defender who shoots 3s and can pass. That's what Jackson was supposed to be.
4. There have been studies done. The safe guys you value are a dime a dozen and can be had at the vet minimum. Going for the stars is the statistically best way to draft. And again, you are describing exactly what I stated with point 3. We would not have taken Luka, or Booker, or hell even Amare, under Jones. And we're supposed to see that as a good thing so long as we have a team of Danny Green 3 & D players? Okay...
like what they did with Jalen Lecque.
