The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime!

[RunDogGun]

He deleted it, most likely for fear of losing his job and such.

It looked like a food ticket that the kitchen gets from the computer. It did not look like a receipt. And what the heck does 25Sarver mean? Do they really ask for your name at Ruth's, and type it into the food ticket?

I think 25 was maybe the table number and Sarver was either the reservation name or the name off the credit card. The guy deleted the original tweet now too.

When I looked at it, it looks like the ticket the kitchen gets to make the order. I thought it could be the table number, but had no idea they would put the reservation name on the food ticket. But then couldn't any employee type in Sarver's name on any ticket? The other name that was on the top was Rachel (assuming that was the server's name.

This could be cleared up by anyone that either works at a RCSH, or someone who has eaten there, and gets a receipt.

[RunDogGun]

Any desire to throw a camp invite to Jeremy Tyler after he is released?

[JTrain]

My early standings predictions:

[PhxSunsFan1234]

Bledsoe for Horford
Bledsoe for Horford
Bledsoe for Horford
Bledsoe for Horford

[WeekapaugGroove]

Bledsoe for Horford
Bledsoe for Horford
Bledsoe for Horford
Bledsoe for Horford

I'm on board 100% and would be willing to throw other assets at them to get it done. (Due to CBA rules it would need to be split into two separate deals)

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[jcsunsfan]

Bledsoe for Horford
Bledsoe for Horford
Bledsoe for Horford
Bledsoe for Horford

Have I missed something? Is Atlanta wanting to trade Horford? And if so, would they want Bledsoe? And if they do want Bledsoe, does Bledsoe want Atlanta?

[bwgood77]

Have I missed something? Is Atlanta wanting to trade Horford? And if so, would they want Bledsoe? And if they do want Bledsoe, does Bledsoe want Atlanta?

No, you haven't. We discussed how ridiculous proposals like this are yesterday or the day before. I'm surprised the same people are not saying Bledsoe for Anthony Davis too.

[JTrain]

But Davis is way better than Bledsoe and probably a top eight player in the league. Horford isn't.

Also, Bledsoe is more exciting and marketable than Horford. Atlanta was 28th in attendance last year.

[b-ball forever]

Sarver had a lettuce salad with blue cheese and Tucker/Bledsoe had a Caesar salad.

LOL. That proves it all. The guy wasn't even sure if it was Tucker or Bledsoe?

Who goes to a steak house and orders a couple salads?

How do we know which salad goes with whom?

Maybe they were eating in courses, and were just at the starters phase?

[bwgood77]

But Davis is way better than Bledsoe and probably a top eight player in the league. Horford isn't.

Also, Bledsoe is more exciting and marketable than Horford. Atlanta was 28th in attendance last year.

OK, then lets use other examples of teams with good point guards (on good contracts) trading away their best player for another point guard who wants the max. Lets trade him for Aldridge or Marc Gasol then.

The trades have to make sense for both teams. Teams are not going to trade away proven all star bigs for an unproven injury prone point guard wanting the max. ESPECIALLY if they already have a pg.

At least if someone proposed trading him for Cousins or Drummond (neither of which would happen either) those teams could use a good point guard.

[JTrain]

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But Davis is way better than Bledsoe and probably a top eight player in the league. Horford isn't.

Also, Bledsoe is more exciting and marketable than Horford. Atlanta was 28th in attendance last year.

OK, then lets use other examples of teams with good point guards (on good contracts) trading away their best player for another point guard who wants the max. Lets trade him for Aldridge or Marc Gasol then.

The trades have to make sense for both teams. Teams are not going to trade away proven all star bigs for an unproven injury prone point guard wanting the max. ESPECIALLY if they already have a pg.

At least if someone proposed trading him for Cousins or Drummond (neither of which would happen either) those teams could use a good point guard.

I heard the Hawks were looking to trade Teague before the deadline last season. With Millsap expiring after this season, and Horford also being injury prone (like Bledsoe) maybe they want to rebuild from scratch? Trade Teague for an expiring, maybe for Derrick Williams from the Kings.

[lilfishi22]

Maybe I'm nieve but Irving/Lebron/Love doesn't really constitute a scary team. Irving is massively overrated and Love hasn't even been in a playoff game. I find those three together overrated, and imo they're not the favorites to win the title, especially in the first year with a new head coach.

Irving as a player by himself is pretty overrated but when you put him on the court with Lebron and Love, he makes a pretty scary 2nd (or 3rd) fiddle.

[JTrain]

But Davis is way better than Bledsoe and probably a top eight player in the league. Horford isn't.

Also, Bledsoe is more exciting and marketable than Horford. Atlanta was 28th in attendance last year.

OK, then lets use other examples of teams with good point guards (on good contracts) trading away their best player for another point guard who wants the max. Lets trade him for Aldridge or Marc Gasol then.

The trades have to make sense for both teams. Teams are not going to trade away proven all star bigs for an unproven injury prone point guard wanting the max. ESPECIALLY if they already have a pg.

At least if someone proposed trading him for Cousins or Drummond (neither of which would happen either) those teams could use a good point guard.

- The whole wanting max thing doesn't matter in my plan because it would involve signing Bledsoe to the $12M deal (which he is basically forced into now) and then trading him.

- Atlanta really is not in position to contend right now and won't be for a while. In 3-4 years, they would likely be better off with Bledsoe in his prime rather than 31-year-old Horford.

- While Bledsoe is injury prone and that is definitely concerning, I wouldn't call him unproven. When he's on the court he has produced quite well.

- Teague is alright but not a top 10 PG, and Bledsoe can play the 2 just as well. Korver is 32.

- We have a lot of draft picks to use as trade assets. We can't continue to take four players every year. Throw in the Minnesota pick and boom.

[NotTraxxe]

@narmenta: You had asked when I graduated I think in the last thread. I didn't graduate from Ironwood; I got my GED. I would have graduated in 1997. I grew up on 51rst Ave and Thunderbird. Went to Desert Valley K - 8. Then Ironwood two years before getting my GED and deucing out.

[bwgood77]

But Davis is way better than Bledsoe and probably a top eight player in the league. Horford isn't.

Also, Bledsoe is more exciting and marketable than Horford. Atlanta was 28th in attendance last year.

OK, then lets use other examples of teams with good point guards (on good contracts) trading away their best player for another point guard who wants the max. Lets trade him for Aldridge or Marc Gasol then.

The trades have to make sense for both teams. Teams are not going to trade away proven all star bigs for an unproven injury prone point guard wanting the max. ESPECIALLY if they already have a pg.

At least if someone proposed trading him for Cousins or Drummond (neither of which would happen either) those teams could use a good point guard.

I heard the Hawks were looking to trade Teague before the deadline last season. With Millsap expiring after this season, and Horford also being injury prone (like Bledsoe) maybe they want to rebuild from scratch? Trade Teague for an expiring, maybe for Derrick Williams from the Kings.

Maybe, and Ferry didn't seem all that cray about keeping Teague the year before in free agency, but ultimately matched the 4/32 contract he got. That's a steal of a contract though. He's played well. I think Ferry kind of wanted to tank last year, especially with Horford out anyway. He certainly didn't seem like he cared all that much about making the playoffs at the end of the year.

Unless he thinks Horford will leave two summers from now for sure, I don't see why they'd deal him. I think they could easily be a top 4-5 team in the east this year though.

I think it would be much more likely that since they will probably lose Millsap next summer, to trade Bledsoe and Plumlee for Teague and Millsap. I'd probably do that and it makes some sense for both teams.

But Ferry also seems like he doesn't want to overpay people. He dealt JJ for nothing, and has only guys on reasonable contracts. I just can't see him wanting to pay Bledsoe that much. I especially don't think a team will pay him AND give up a star player for him.

[bwgood77]

@narmenta: You had asked when I graduated I think in the last thread. I didn't graduate from Ironwood; I got my GED. I would have graduated in 1997. I grew up on 51rst Ave and Thunderbird. Went to Desert Valley K - 8. Then Ironwood two years before getting my GED and deucing out.

Wow, when I was in high school I lived at 51st and Thunderbird too (well between Thunderbird and Greenway).

[bwgood77]

My early standings predictions:

Not bad. I'd give the Hawks 8 or so more wins, and maybe Washington and Toronto each a couple more (all teams being healthy). I also would give Memphis about 7 more wins.

I don't think Minnesota will be nearly that good though unless they get Thaddeus Young and Dieng makes a big stride. Wiggins and LaVine may be exciting, but they are teenagers. In 3-4 years maybe they will be really competitive nba players, but I don't think that team will win that much, especially if they don't get Young.

[JTrain]

Sarver had a lettuce salad with blue cheese and Tucker/Bledsoe had a Caesar salad.

LOL. That proves it all. The guy wasn't even sure if it was Tucker or Bledsoe?

Who goes to a steak house and orders a couple salads?

How do we know which salad goes with whom?

Maybe they were eating in courses, and were just at the starters phase?

The pic was only the top of the receipt. I'm sure there was more.

[JTrain]

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