Draft Thread: Who do you want with the 13th pick? Stanley Johnson and WCS added..change votes if you want

[MrMiyagi]

All you UofA homers need to cool it with Rondae. I'm not ragging on the guy I think he is a solid player and will do well in the NBA but we don't need him. We'll have Tucker, Archie, and Warren all on the team next year and could potentially make a free agent splash for a guy like Tobias Harris. We've got to go big this year, We could use on interior defense and scoring. There is going to be great value in the middle of the round just looking at that mock Turner, Kaminsky, Cauley-Stein, etc.

I go Cauley-stein. Could be a great role playing big who defends and rebounds, Ideal for Len's backup.

But....

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RONDAE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, I actually agree. I think Frank the Tank should be our pick. He could play with Kieff and Len.

[AtheJ415]

I just think Kaminsky has too rare a skill set that is too good a fit for us to not draft if he's there. His skill level is an awesome fit next to our bigs. I know some would prefer a defensive stud like Cauley Stein, but his skill set is easier to find. Kaminsky's doesn't come around often.

[bwgood77]

I just think Kaminsky has too rare a skill set that is too good a fit for us to not draft if he's there. His skill level is an awesome fit next to our bigs. I know some would prefer a defensive stud like Cauley Stein, but his skill set is easier to find. Kaminsky's doesn't come around often.

I remember last year early in the year I was looking at college box scores and came across this one and was like holy ****! http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400498041 43 pts and 6 3's? Who is this guy?

Then I looked at his game logs http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... k-kaminsky and saw that he was a 7 footer that blocked shots.

So I thought "Damn, a 7 footer who hits 3s like that AND blocks shots? I wonder where he is on the draft boards."

Nowhere. He wasn't even listed as a second rounder.

He was by the end of the year and also of course played a big part in knocking my alma mater out of the tourney.

I'm a fan of his game. It might help put on some pounds, but I swear in that AZ elite 8 game he looked like Dirk, and Dirk never really had to muscle anyone.

I'd be happy to get him. I haven't watched him much this year, and I wonder if he will be available and who else will be available when we pick, but I like him.

I wonder what McD thinks of him.

[bwgood77]

All you UofA homers need to cool it with Rondae. I'm not ragging on the guy I think he is a solid player and will do well in the NBA but we don't need him. We'll have Tucker, Archie, and Warren all on the team next year and could potentially make a free agent splash for a guy like Tobias Harris. We've got to go big this year, We could use on interior defense and scoring. There is going to be great value in the middle of the round just looking at that mock Turner, Kaminsky, Cauley-Stein, etc.

I go Cauley-stein. Could be a great role playing big who defends and rebounds, Ideal for Len's backup.

One person posted his name and a pic. How did that turn into "All you UofA homers"?

[thamadkant]

I just think Kaminsky has too rare a skill set that is too good a fit for us to not draft if he's there. His skill level is an awesome fit next to our bigs. I know some would prefer a defensive stud like Cauley Stein, but his skill set is easier to find. Kaminsky's doesn't come around often.

Does he remind you of Kelly Olynyk a bit?

Or Spencer Hawes.

[Mr Puddles]

All you UofA homers need to cool it with Rondae. I'm not ragging on the guy I think he is a solid player and will do well in the NBA but we don't need him. We'll have Tucker, Archie, and Warren all on the team next year and could potentially make a free agent splash for a guy like Tobias Harris. We've got to go big this year, We could use on interior defense and scoring. There is going to be great value in the middle of the round just looking at that mock Turner, Kaminsky, Cauley-Stein, etc.

I go Cauley-stein. Could be a great role playing big who defends and rebounds, Ideal for Len's backup.

I agree with Cauley-Stein or Turner if either falls our way. The only 'small' that I would take over them is if Mario Hezonja somehow drops (as euros sometimes tend to do due to contract situations/ relatively higher risk). I wouldn't be surprised if Hezonja turns out to be the best player in this draft, he'd be in the top 3 discussion if he played in the NCAA right now.

[bwgood77]

I just think Kaminsky has too rare a skill set that is too good a fit for us to not draft if he's there. His skill level is an awesome fit next to our bigs. I know some would prefer a defensive stud like Cauley Stein, but his skill set is easier to find. Kaminsky's doesn't come around often.

Does he remind you of Kelly Olynyk a bit?

Or Spencer Hawes?[quote]

Well Hawes came out as a freshman, Olynyk as a jr, and Kaminsky is a senior, but if you compare their final years in college, Kaminsky is a FAR better 3 pt shooter on far more volume. Hawes only shot 1 3 in college. Olynyk only shot 9 as a jr. Olynyk was really good from short range.

Kaminsky was better across the board coming out.....higher 3 pt fg% (nearly 40%), more rebounds, assists, steals and far fewer turnovers. Hawes had a few more blocks, but that's about it.

Of course he is older, but he is much more polished and ready than Hawes for sure, and if you are looking for a guy with range, he's better than Olynyk from deep, and a little bit better at all the little things. I think Olynyk was a little bit better from short range though.

Here is a comparison of the three. http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compar ... ncer-hawes

[bwgood77]

All you UofA homers need to cool it with Rondae. I'm not ragging on the guy I think he is a solid player and will do well in the NBA but we don't need him. We'll have Tucker, Archie, and Warren all on the team next year and could potentially make a free agent splash for a guy like Tobias Harris. We've got to go big this year, We could use on interior defense and scoring. There is going to be great value in the middle of the round just looking at that mock Turner, Kaminsky, Cauley-Stein, etc.

I go Cauley-stein. Could be a great role playing big who defends and rebounds, Ideal for Len's backup.

I agree with Cauley-Stein or Turner if either falls our way. The only 'small' that I would take over them is if Mario Hezonja somehow drops (as euros sometimes tend to do due to contract situations/ relatively higher risk). I wouldn't be surprised if Hezonja turns out to be the best player in this draft, he'd be in the top 3 discussion if he played in the NCAA right now.

I was surprised to see Ford say in his chat the other day that he thought Hezonja might be the best wing in the draft. Which two in the top 4 do you think he'd be ahead of if he were in the NCAA?

[AtheJ415]

I just think Kaminsky has too rare a skill set that is too good a fit for us to not draft if he's there. His skill level is an awesome fit next to our bigs. I know some would prefer a defensive stud like Cauley Stein, but his skill set is easier to find. Kaminsky's doesn't come around often.

Does he remind you of Kelly Olynyk a bit?

Or Spencer Hawes.

Not really. Although I admit I don't watch Boston very often so I haven't seen enough of Olynyk to judge. I have seen Hawes a lot. I see Kaminsky as a much better all around and more dangerous scorer than him. But that's just my personal opinion.

[MrMiyagi]

All you UofA homers need to cool it with Rondae. I'm not ragging on the guy I think he is a solid player and will do well in the NBA but we don't need him. We'll have Tucker, Archie, and Warren all on the team next year and could potentially make a free agent splash for a guy like Tobias Harris. We've got to go big this year, We could use on interior defense and scoring. There is going to be great value in the middle of the round just looking at that mock Turner, Kaminsky, Cauley-Stein, etc.

I go Cauley-stein. Could be a great role playing big who defends and rebounds, Ideal for Len's backup.

One person posted his name and a pic. How did that turn into "All you UofA homers"?

Obviously we have a hive-mindset BW.

[bwgood77]

Obviously we have a hive-mindset BW.

I love Rondae, but I have super high hopes for Warren. I think Rondae will be a great glue all around do everything guy...maybe a rich man's Tucker.

Now if we could somehow get Stanley Johnson, that would be some serious wing depth, but it would be better at that point, if we continued to build the young team, to rid ourselves of Mook and PJ.

But this current team does need that future backup 4 and 5....or maybe a future starter in a few years (ignoring FA possibilities...finding a better PF than Kieff in FA is probably far fetched at best).

As for UofA players, I've always thought Jordan Hill was underrated...even in college...that guy has a ton of energy and will fight for everything...I think he would be a perfect backup 4. I don't know if he's worth trading for, but to sign in 2016 when the cap goes up, I wouldn't mind outbidding people to get that energy and rebounding...everyone will be overpaid.....I doubt we can land a star so get a solid contributor that gives us that rebounding we need (yes, I guess this part should be in the FA thread).

[mikefly3113]

All you UofA homers need to cool it with Rondae. I'm not ragging on the guy I think he is a solid player and will do well in the NBA but we don't need him. We'll have Tucker, Archie, and Warren all on the team next year and could potentially make a free agent splash for a guy like Tobias Harris. We've got to go big this year, We could use on interior defense and scoring. There is going to be great value in the middle of the round just looking at that mock Turner, Kaminsky, Cauley-Stein, etc.

I go Cauley-stein. Could be a great role playing big who defends and rebounds, Ideal for Len's backup.

One person posted his name and a pic. How did that turn into "All you UofA homers"?

Relax homie, I didn't mean any offense to it and yes there hasn't been much YET but I've seen plenty of draft boards on here in the past of UofA guys salivating over Wildcat players just because of the connection. Going back to it though I do really like Rondae but still don't think he is what we need. If there is a way to snag Cauley-stein or Kaminsky as well as make a draft day trade for Rondae I'd be all for it.

[Bogyo]

For some reason I'm not totally sold on Kaminsky. I don't think that his mind is on the NBA (reason why he did not turn pro last year), and it's practically impossible to survive in this league if you don't want it more than the guy next to you on the bench... He might re-evaluate, and turn out to be a good pro, but I think he will have a hard time if his heart is not into it...

[jcsunsfan]

I would trade out of this draft, especially if I could get something decent for the pick. Philly is shopping for picks, maybe they would trade for a 13 or 14 or something.

[Cutter]

I just think Kaminsky has too rare a skill set that is too good a fit for us to not draft if he's there. His skill level is an awesome fit next to our bigs. I know some would prefer a defensive stud like Cauley Stein, but his skill set is easier to find. Kaminsky's doesn't come around often.

I remember last year early in the year I was looking at college box scores and came across this one and was like holy ****! http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=400498041 43 pts and 6 3's? Who is this guy?

Then I looked at his game logs http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... k-kaminsky and saw that he was a 7 footer that blocked shots.

So I thought "Damn, a 7 footer who hits 3s like that AND blocks shots? I wonder where he is on the draft boards."

Nowhere. He wasn't even listed as a second rounder.

He was by the end of the year and also of course played a big part in knocking my alma mater out of the tourney.

I'm a fan of his game. It might help put on some pounds, but I swear in that AZ elite 8 game he looked like Dirk, and Dirk never really had to muscle anyone.

I'd be happy to get him. I haven't watched him much this year, and I wonder if he will be available and who else will be available when we pick, but I like him.

I wonder what McD thinks of him.

Can he play defense? Also can he play C/PF?

[Cutter]

Is Alec Brown and Frank Kaminsky the same type of player?

[bwgood77]

Is Alec Brown and Frank Kaminsky the same type of player?

I haven't watched him as much or really at all this year, but I remember last year thinking he looked like Dirk offensively against the Cats, who had one of the better front lines and defenses in the country.

He would have to play PF or C, and I don't know how good he would be defensively, as last I saw him he was a pretty skinny guy. He would alter and block some shots, but you would definitely want to pair him with a force in the middle. He could probably get pushed around pretty good.

As far as Alec Brown goes, I haven't ever watched him, but he was from a small school. Kaminsky is playing in one of the toughest conferences in the country and doing it against top competition night in and night out, so he is certainly much more battle tested, at least coming out of college.

[bwgood77]

I really like Portis. Analytics and eye-test support this guy.

He's probably our best option.

Well he is going head to head against Cauley Stein, Towns and Dakari Johnson now on CBS, so lets see if he can hold his own against that front line. So far out rebounding any of them, and only one less that all three of them combined.

[saintEscaton]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKLm8dyskJo Christian Wood is my sleeper pick. Tremendous size, athleticism and upside but still raw af needs to develop a consistent shot and must add strength/bulk to his frame if he wants to improve on D

[MrMiyagi]

Is Alec Brown and Frank Kaminsky the same type of player?

Alec Brown is like Channing Frye-Lite and Kaminsky is like Dirk-Lite. Alec was a flyer pick who we just hope could make the roster/be a deep bench guy. Kaminsky will at least be a bench rotation player with the potential to be a starter.