2019 Draft Discussion - Suns with 6th pick!

[SlovenianDragon]

Zion and Ayton would be a crazy front court. If we are that lucky again to get the +1 pick

[stoo]

If any team skips on Zion for anybody else, that would turn out as the mistake of these decades very soon

[Musli]

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[Duke4life831]

Zion was all over the game today. Probably was on the ground 5-6 times diving for lose balls. The dude plays on just a completely different level of intensity that I have seen. It's truly crazy.

[bwgood77]

Zion was all over the game today. Probably was on the ground 5-6 times diving for lose balls. The dude plays on just a completely different level of intensity that I have seen. It's truly crazy.

How do you think he'd fit with Ayton and Booker (and now Warren considering he suddenly can shoot from anywhere after taking over 40K shots this summer)? And Bridges too...him or TJ could be 6th man.

[Duke4life831]

Zion was all over the game today. Probably was on the ground 5-6 times diving for lose balls. The dude plays on just a completely different level of intensity that I have seen. It's truly crazy.

How do you think he'd fit with Ayton and Booker (and now Warren considering he suddenly can shoot from anywhere after taking over 40K shots this summer)? And Bridges too...him or TJ could be 6th man.

I'd be worried defensively. I think Zion has a chance to be a really good defender, just has a lot to work on, on that side of the ball. His defensive fundamentals are really bad. But with that said say a lineup of

PG: Tyus Jones (somehow in a trade, I think he's a perfect fit for you guys and Booker)
SG: Booker
SF: Bridges
PF: Zion
C: Ayton

I'd really like that core going forward. A lot depends on how Zion and Ayton improve defensively. But ya I think it would definitely be worth going for.

[oddity]

Worried about Zion as he's only 6'6 w/ an 8'7 standing reach. That's Klay Thompson height/length guarding the 6'11 LaMarcus Aldridge or the 6'10 Blake Griffin or the 6'11 Marvin Bagley or the 7 foot Lauri Markkanen. He has the weight and the bounce for sure, but he'll be fighting an uphill battle against height and the refs every night. He doesn't have the shot to play the 3 either, so he might settle into a very scary tweener realm of player.
On the other hand, his handle is nice, his athleticism flies off the charts, and he can finish with either hand over size at the rim. He would also be a tremendous fit on paper. Imagine the athleticism and size between Zion and Ayton. The intensity Zion brings every night can be infectious. He would also fit very nicely next to Mikal Bridges, who can space the floor for Zion's drives and bring much needed toughness on defense. If we also got an explosive point guard like Kemba in the FA I can see a really promising, exciting lineup moving forward.
ZWill needs to develop his game to be great offensively though. In the post I mostly see Zion abusing his quick feet and enormous build to finish through the defender or get around him, but not being able to shoot consistently out of the post will hurt him, and I haven't seen the clever use of shimmies/fakes that we see Ayton do sometimes. Alternatively for Suns fans if we draft towards the top, keep an eye on Cam Reddish. If Cam develops a post game he could also he a great small-ball-do-it-all 4, like Jabari Parker or Jayson Tatum(lite). He has a good shot and a nice feel for the game. He just needs a post game and he would fit well too.

[lilfishi22]

Like you, I wasn't a believer and I still have a lot of reservations about him but it's hard not to be interested in a guy with this otherworldly athleticism, already has some guard skills and seems to have a pretty high BBIQ. IMO his shot is the only thing that's holding him back but he's working on it and even if he becomes just an OK shooter, he's still going to be dominant. Just a bit concerned about his fit with Ayton

[Mr Puddles]

I don't have the opportunity to watch NCAA basketball so hope someone can help explain if Nassir Little and/or Cam Reddish could potentially play the 4 role in the NBA?

From the description Nassir Little seems like Jae Crowder type of player, which is ideally what we need on this team I believe.

[TheLogician]

I don't have the opportunity to watch NCAA basketball so hope someone can help explain if Nassir Little and/or Cam Reddish could potentially play the 4 role in the NBA?

From the description Nassir Little seems like Jae Crowder type of player, which is ideally what we need on this team I believe.

Little seems like he could guard 4s, not sure about Reddish. If we get the #1 pick, I still might want to move down for Little or Reddish. Need to watch more games, though.

[bwgood77]

I don't have the opportunity to watch NCAA basketball so hope someone can help explain if Nassir Little and/or Cam Reddish could potentially play the 4 role in the NBA?

From the description Nassir Little seems like Jae Crowder type of player, which is ideally what we need on this team I believe.

Little seems like he could guard 4s, not sure about Reddish. If we get the #1 pick, I still might want to move down for Little or Reddish. Need to watch more games, though.

I haven't watched enough, but reading the profiles on stepien, I liked what I read about Reddish, being a solid defender and passer, and he seemed to be, of that wing group, the longest and tallest (I think) so maybe he could play the 4 and be one of the initiators from there.

Today he scored 25 with 7 3s (7-13), 7 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=401082670

Stepien lists him at 6'7 (ESPN at 6'8) with a 7'1 wingspan. He also played PG in HS and AAU...so to have a great passer/defender/shooter at the 4 would be great. I didn't watch today's game, but he put up huge numbers too, as did Barrett and Zion who we have talked about.

Based on profiles before the season started, it seems like Reddish ideally fits the best, but it's hard to not want a guy with a heart like Zion who dives for loose balls and gets 16 boards, etc...though I guess we won't need the boards with Ayton.

[Djedefre]

This class is full of physically imposing wings - RJ, Zion, Simisola, Nazreon, Nassir. We'll have options and Jackson ending up a bust won't hurt as much.

I really like the duo from Vandy. Garland is so smooth and polished, very potent scorer at 1. It's early but he looks like a great future PG for us, and the best thing is he will be available somewhere between #6 and #12 most likely. Can see some Lillard-lite potential.

[Funky Tut]

Duke is killing E Washington by almost 40. Watching their three freshman play, I am legit ok tanking this year and would be ecstatic with Barrett or Zion who looks to be franchise changing players.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

Duke is killing E Washington by almost 40. Watching their three freshman play, I am legit ok tanking this year and would be ecstatic with Barrett or Zion who looks to be franchise changing players.

I don't think they really need to tank, they should try to win but playing in this ridiculous west and with the new lotto odds they should have as good of a shot as anyone to land top 4.

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[Duke4life831]

I don't have the opportunity to watch NCAA basketball so hope someone can help explain if Nassir Little and/or Cam Reddish could potentially play the 4 role in the NBA?

From the description Nassir Little seems like Jae Crowder type of player, which is ideally what we need on this team I believe.

Little seems like he could guard 4s, not sure about Reddish. If we get the #1 pick, I still might want to move down for Little or Reddish. Need to watch more games, though.

I haven't watched enough, but reading the profiles on stepien, I liked what I read about Reddish, being a solid defender and passer, and he seemed to be, of that wing group, the longest and tallest (I think) so maybe he could play the 4 and be one of the initiators from there.

Today he scored 25 with 7 3s (7-13), 7 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=401082670

Stepien lists him at 6'7 (ESPN at 6'8) with a 7'1 wingspan. He also played PG in HS and AAU...so to have a great passer/defender/shooter at the 4 would be great. I didn't watch today's game, but he put up huge numbers too, as did Barrett and Zion who we have talked about.

Based on profiles before the season started, it seems like Reddish ideally fits the best, but it's hard to not want a guy with a heart like Zion who dives for loose balls and gets 16 boards, etc...though I guess we won't need the boards with Ayton.

Little is by far the best defender out of the group. Next I would go Cam. Sound fundamentals and really uses his length (motor on that end is his biggest question mark). Zion I think has sky high potential defensively, just horrible when it comes to fundamentals, has a long ways to go. RJ 4th, still not a horrible defender when he tries.

A little breakdown on how I see the 4 guys

Spoiler:

shooting:
1. Cam
2. Little
3. RJ
4. Zion

handle:
1. Zion
2. Cam
3. RJ
4. Little

facilitating:
1. Cam
2. Zion
3. RJ
4. Little

finishing inside (and in traffic)
1. Zion
2. Little
3. RJ
4. Cam

athleticism
1. Zion
2. Little
3. RJ
4. Cam

[bwgood77]

Little seems like he could guard 4s, not sure about Reddish. If we get the #1 pick, I still might want to move down for Little or Reddish. Need to watch more games, though.

I haven't watched enough, but reading the profiles on stepien, I liked what I read about Reddish, being a solid defender and passer, and he seemed to be, of that wing group, the longest and tallest (I think) so maybe he could play the 4 and be one of the initiators from there.

Today he scored 25 with 7 3s (7-13), 7 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=401082670

Stepien lists him at 6'7 (ESPN at 6'8) with a 7'1 wingspan. He also played PG in HS and AAU...so to have a great passer/defender/shooter at the 4 would be great. I didn't watch today's game, but he put up huge numbers too, as did Barrett and Zion who we have talked about.

Based on profiles before the season started, it seems like Reddish ideally fits the best, but it's hard to not want a guy with a heart like Zion who dives for loose balls and gets 16 boards, etc...though I guess we won't need the boards with Ayton.

Little is by far the best defender out of the group. Next I would go Cam. Sound fundamentals and really uses his length (motor on that end is his biggest question mark). Zion I think has sky high potential defensively, just horrible when it comes to fundamentals, has a long ways to go. RJ 4th, still not a horrible defender when he tries.

A little breakdown on how I see the 4 guys

Spoiler:

shooting:
1. Cam
2. Little
3. RJ
4. Zion

handle:
1. Zion
2. Cam
3. RJ
4. Little

facilitating:
1. Cam
2. Zion
3. RJ
4. Little

finishing inside (and in traffic)
1. Zion
2. Little
3. RJ
4. Cam

athleticism
1. Zion
2. Little
3. RJ
4. Cam

Cam seems best at what we need (shooting and facilitating) and then second in defense. A passer who can stretch the floor works well next to Ayton. Doesn't need to finish inside or be terribly athletic...need fundamentals more than just raw athleticism.

Could LIttle play the 4? Right now I think most here would be happy with TJ at the 4 and Bridges at the 3. But we need that depth, and all would get a lot of minutes regardless of who starts. TJ's D hurts but he is by far our most efficient wing right now and we need efficient scoring.

[Duke4life831]

I haven't watched enough, but reading the profiles on stepien, I liked what I read about Reddish, being a solid defender and passer, and he seemed to be, of that wing group, the longest and tallest (I think) so maybe he could play the 4 and be one of the initiators from there.

Today he scored 25 with 7 3s (7-13), 7 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=401082670

Stepien lists him at 6'7 (ESPN at 6'8) with a 7'1 wingspan. He also played PG in HS and AAU...so to have a great passer/defender/shooter at the 4 would be great. I didn't watch today's game, but he put up huge numbers too, as did Barrett and Zion who we have talked about.

Based on profiles before the season started, it seems like Reddish ideally fits the best, but it's hard to not want a guy with a heart like Zion who dives for loose balls and gets 16 boards, etc...though I guess we won't need the boards with Ayton.

Little is by far the best defender out of the group. Next I would go Cam. Sound fundamentals and really uses his length (motor on that end is his biggest question mark). Zion I think has sky high potential defensively, just horrible when it comes to fundamentals, has a long ways to go. RJ 4th, still not a horrible defender when he tries.

A little breakdown on how I see the 4 guys

Spoiler:

shooting:
1. Cam
2. Little
3. RJ
4. Zion

handle:
1. Zion
2. Cam
3. RJ
4. Little

facilitating:
1. Cam
2. Zion
3. RJ
4. Little

finishing inside (and in traffic)
1. Zion
2. Little
3. RJ
4. Cam

athleticism
1. Zion
2. Little
3. RJ
4. Cam

Cam seems best at what we need (shooting and facilitating) and then second in defense. A passer who can stretch the floor works well next to Ayton. Doesn't need to finish inside or be terribly athletic...need fundamentals more than just raw athleticism.

Could LIttle play the 4? Right now I think most here would be happy with TJ at the 4 and Bridges at the 3. But we need that depth, and all would get a lot of minutes regardless of who starts. TJ's D hurts but he is by far our most efficient wing right now and we need efficient scoring.

Justise Winslow has no issue playing the 4 defensively. Dont see why Little would run into issues. Little is longer, stronger and a more explosive athlete than Winslow. I dont think Little will be quite as versatile as a defender like Winslow is. But I can see Little being a shut down 2-4 defender (so still plenty versatile).

Cam would fit in really good offensively with Booker and Ayton. Ideally you would get a smart PG that doesnt need the ball in his hands too often but when he has it he controls the offense (Tyus Jones cough cough). I honestly think if Josh Jackson isnt a factor in any of the decision making for this upcoming draft, I can see the argument for all 4 guys fit (RJ worst fit but still makes sense).

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Pretty amzing seeing 6-7 205lbs Gerald Green do it. It's mind-blowing seeing 6-6 280lb Zion doing the same thing