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Post#61 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:48 pm

Slim Charless wrote:I know. As others have mentioned I wonder if some sort of prearranged S&T could be worked out. As to the pick we can always just select who the pels want then trade him later.
Tampering happens and it's not impossible but with so many parties involved (3 teams and an agent) it's running a real risk of the league coming down on folks if they believe this was prearranged.

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Post#62 » by Qwigglez » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:49 pm

Kyrie is all but signed with the Nets. I heard he bought a house there recently. Tobias Harris would be a good fit with the Nets and then they might be able to keep DLo if they were able to unload Dinwiddie for draft pick(s). They’d still have a lot of depth with the rest of their roster and I actually really like their deal for Prince.

I think Kemba is staying with the Hornets, Butler might go to an LA team if the Sixers don’t offer him the full max. Kawhi might get a statue made of him in Toronto if he stays with them. I think the Knicks are gonna pull another stunt like they did with Melo and cash in on AD, which leads them to sign Durant too.

And that’s free agency in a nutshell, you heard it here first. :D
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Post#63 » by Qwigglez » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:54 pm

I’d throw up if we traded our pick for Ball or Smart. Just keep Tyler Johnson, sign Patrick Beverly.
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Post#64 » by BobbieL » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:54 pm

Slim Charless wrote:
BobbieL wrote:Woj with a tweet/article about New Orleans trade with AD:

Read on Twitter


Woj mentions Griffin wanting other teams involved as a way to get players/picks that better suit what he is looking for. Suns might be involved with this. Griffin wants it done by draft day if picks are involved.


We grab our vet PG in exchange for sending the 6th onto the Pels?

Boston-Marcus Smart
LAL- Ball
BKN- Dlo

Those arent bad trades Boston would need to add on another pick, their 20th could work.


I can see BAll for the 6th - maybe add in Melton or Okobo to the Lakers.

The Ball shot is worrisome - needs to hire Chip Engelland.
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Post#65 » by BobbieL » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:03 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Kyrie is all but signed with the Nets. I heard he bought a house there recently. Tobias Harris would be a good fit with the Nets and then they might be able to keep DLo if they were able to unload Dinwiddie for draft pick(s). They’d still have a lot of depth with the rest of their roster and I actually really like their deal for Prince.

I think Kemba is staying with the Hornets, Butler might go to an LA team if the Sixers don’t offer him the full max. Kawhi might get a statue made of him in Toronto if he stays with them. I think the Knicks are gonna pull another stunt like they did with Melo and cash in on AD, which leads them to sign Durant too.

And that’s free agency in a nutshell, you heard it here first. :D


Kyrie - Nets
Durant - -Knicks
D'Lo - Nets
Butler - an LA team who will pay him
Harris - Sixers
Kawhi - Raptors 1+1
Kemba - Hornets
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Post#66 » by Slim Charless » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:08 pm

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Slim Charless wrote:I know. As others have mentioned I wonder if some sort of prearranged S&T could be worked out. As to the pick we can always just select who the pels want then trade him later.
Tampering happens and it's not impossible but with so many parties involved (3 teams and an agent) it's running a real risk of the league coming down on folks if they believe this was prearranged.

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All of that's true but it does help that him and Booker are boys and talk all the time I'm sure and probably have at least discussed playing together when Dlo becomes a FA you'd have to think. After looking at this again though everyone else is going to have a very hard time beating Boston's package if Ainge really wants to get this done. If we want in on the trade then 6th for Smart and hopefully a lower Boston pick might be our best bet. Course that depends on what New Orleans values more: 6th pick or Smart. Idk what their front office thinks but Smart and Jrue somewhat overlap, a high pick might lineup better with Zion.
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Post#67 » by hollywood6964 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:08 pm

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I'd imagine they'd want Bridges too. Would that be a deal breaker for everyone? Provided Klutch and Sarver can work together and do a new deal for Draymond. He would fit pretty well next Ayton.

It would be for me. He's an old 29 in my estimation, n we suck. Anyone looking for him to be a top guy on your team be very disappointed. He's a role guy who understands n accepts his role. An invaluable piece to a team like the warriors, but with us here be asked to do too much n he simply isn't capable. N would be overpaid.


Ya ultimately I'd agree and to be honest short of KD telling the warriors "I'll resign if you trade Draymond" I don't see anyway they trade him to anyone they're still a contender KD or no.

If we're talking about defensive minded bigmen I'd rather have Capella anyway. Locked in deal, younger, cheaper and not annoying like Draymond.

He wouldn't make sense with Ayton. I mean, draymond would make sense, if he were like 14 mil a year. Or a guy like him. He's old, but paul milsap would be a likely candidate. Someone like him but younger, little more defensive minded.
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Post#68 » by bwgood77 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:14 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Honestly who the hell knows what Griffin values. Let's not forget Griffin gushed over McDs offseason last summer in an interview :)
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Someone on twitter mentioned the Blazers should trade CJ, Nurkic and a couple of firsts for him. That would probably be a good trade for both teams, but of course it's risky since AD likely walks.

A lot of teams outside of the Lakers, Knicks, etc, could put up decent deals.
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Post#69 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:15 pm

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:I know. As others have mentioned I wonder if some sort of prearranged S&T could be worked out. As to the pick we can always just select who the pels want then trade him later.
Tampering happens and it's not impossible but with so many parties involved (3 teams and an agent) it's running a real risk of the league coming down on folks if they believe this was prearranged.

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All of that's true but it does help that him and Booker are boys and talk all the time I'm sure and probably have at least discussed playing together when Dlo becomes a FA you'd have to think. After looking at this again though everyone else is going to have a very hard time beating Boston's package if Ainge really wants to get this done. If we want in on the trade then 6th for Smart and hopefully a lower Boston pick might be our best bet. Course that depends on what New Orleans values more: 6th pick or Smart. Idk what their front office thinks but Smart and Jrue somewhat overlap, a high pick might lineup better with Zion.
I really wonder if Boston actually makes an offer. I think Kyrie is gone regardless and that would be one hell of a risk on Boston's part to deal Tatum plus other assets for a guy whos camp has come out and said he doesn't want to go there. If he walked next summer they would be kind of screwed.

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Post#70 » by Crives » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:17 pm

Qwigglez wrote:I’d throw up if we traded our pick for Ball or Smart. Just keep Tyler Johnson, sign Patrick Beverly.


I wouldn’t mind smart if we get back 14.
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Post#71 » by BobbieL » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:18 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Honestly who the hell knows what Griffin values. Let's not forget Griffin gushed over McDs offseason last summer in an interview :)
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Someone on twitter mentioned the Blazers should trade CJ, Nurkic and a couple of firsts for him. That would probably be a good trade for both teams, but of course it's risky since AD likely walks.

A lot of teams outside of the Lakers, Knicks, etc, could put up decent deals.


Keep the draft picks - add Zach Collins to the deal if I am the Pelicans. It is risky if he walks thats for sure though

Knicks can package Knox, contracts, #3 and a future Dallas pick
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Post#72 » by Crives » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:19 pm

I wonder if griffin is targeting Beal as the player he wants AD suitors to get and include in a 3 team deal
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Post#73 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:20 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Honestly who the hell knows what Griffin values. Let's not forget Griffin gushed over McDs offseason last summer in an interview :)
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Someone on twitter mentioned the Blazers should trade CJ, Nurkic and a couple of firsts for him. That would probably be a good trade for both teams, but of course it's risky since AD likely walks.

A lot of teams outside of the Lakers, Knicks, etc, could put up decent deals.
Yeah Portland could jump in the mix and try to pull a Toronto type run. I've thought Denver might try although I think it would have made more sense for them to do it last deadline and make a run this post season. Houston will absolutely try to get in on this but it's hard to see how they could make it work.

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Post#74 » by matt131 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:25 pm

Crives wrote:I wonder if griffin is targeting Beal as the player he wants AD suitors to get and include in a 3 team deal


Man, Jrue/Beal/Zion would be beastly
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Post#75 » by MathiasPW » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:31 pm

D'Lo will receive a big offer sheet at minute 1 of free agency, and the Nets will be put in a a lot of pressure to make a call on whether to match or not quickly while they pursue their top 2 or 3 big names.

That's what I would do as a team willing to snag him, at least. Be aggressive, don't wait for the Nets to figure it all out and have all stars aligned and then go competing with all other teams with cap for a shot at him.
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Post#76 » by BobbieL » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:39 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Honestly who the hell knows what Griffin values. Let's not forget Griffin gushed over McDs offseason last summer in an interview :)
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Someone on twitter mentioned the Blazers should trade CJ, Nurkic and a couple of firsts for him. That would probably be a good trade for both teams, but of course it's risky since AD likely walks.

A lot of teams outside of the Lakers, Knicks, etc, could put up decent deals.
Yeah Portland could jump in the mix and try to pull a Toronto type run. I've thought Denver might try although I think it would have made more sense for them to do it last deadline and make a run this post season. Houston will absolutely try to get in on this but it's hard to see how they could make it work.

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I have no idea what Houston has to offer. They do not have any draft picks - maybe Capela - but the Pelicans can do better than CApela.

Denver, Portland, Clippers, Knicks, Lakers and Celtics seem like they will be in the mix.
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Post#77 » by Wilber85 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:53 pm

I don’t think Portland trades . AD won’t stay in Portland .
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Post#78 » by Slim Charless » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:59 pm

Crives wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:I’d throw up if we traded our pick for Ball or Smart. Just keep Tyler Johnson, sign Patrick Beverly.


I wouldn’t mind smart if we get back 14.


I'd do it if we got back 20. I mean a 25 yr old, first team all defense who's on a reasonable contract sounds fantastic. I assume you both watched the Boston- Milwaukee series. Smart and Morris were the only ones who showed any heart at all.
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Post#79 » by bhawk » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:10 pm

Slim Charless wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:I know. As others have mentioned I wonder if some sort of prearranged S&T could be worked out. As to the pick we can always just select who the pels want then trade him later.
Tampering happens and it's not impossible but with so many parties involved (3 teams and an agent) it's running a real risk of the league coming down on folks if they believe this was prearranged.

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All of that's true but it does help that him and Booker are boys and talk all the time I'm sure and probably have at least discussed playing together when Dlo becomes a FA you'd have to think. After looking at this again though everyone else is going to have a very hard time beating Boston's package if Ainge really wants to get this done. If we want in on the trade then 6th for Smart and hopefully a lower Boston pick might be our best bet. Course that depends on what New Orleans values more: 6th pick or Smart. Idk what their front office thinks but Smart and Jrue somewhat overlap, a high pick might lineup better with Zion.


THIS. This is not talked about enough. AD is in charge of his own destiny. Ainge will not give up big assets for a 1 year rental. Nor will any other team. The only way a AD trade works for ANY team is if AD signs long term. To my knowledge (so far), AD will play for 1) the Lakers, 2) the Lakers and 3) with Lebron. It is a one-horse race.

So maybe a 3-way with Boston and LA? NO gets Tatum, LA gets AD and Boston gets Ingram, Ball and filler? I don't know... Boston may just be OUT all together.

Great point Groove.

EDIT: Quoted wrong post. Reposted with the right quote.
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Post#80 » by Slim Charless » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:11 pm

hollywood6964 wrote:
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hollywood6964 wrote:It would be for me. He's an old 29 in my estimation, n we suck. Anyone looking for him to be a top guy on your team be very disappointed. He's a role guy who understands n accepts his role. An invaluable piece to a team like the warriors, but with us here be asked to do too much n he simply isn't capable. N would be overpaid.


Ya ultimately I'd agree and to be honest short of KD telling the warriors "I'll resign if you trade Draymond" I don't see anyway they trade him to anyone they're still a contender KD or no.

If we're talking about defensive minded bigmen I'd rather have Capella anyway. Locked in deal, younger, cheaper and not annoying like Draymond.

He wouldn't make sense with Ayton. I mean, draymond would make sense, if he were like 14 mil a year. Or a guy like him. He's old, but paul milsap would be a likely candidate. Someone like him but younger, little more defensive minded.


Milasap would be great too but yeah he's even older then Draymond. Capella wouldn't be playing as C but as our PF in that scenario I laid out. His defense in particular his rebounding would be great next to Ayton. His defense and Ayton's potentially fantastic offense could compliment each other nicely.

I get that he was run off the court against GS but who besides Gordan really looked good? We need to worry about the basics like defense and rebounding and making it to .500 before we need think about beating the warriors in the playoffs.

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