Sarver ESPN story

[bwgood77]

I hope he is forced to sell, but this is mostly he said/she said and the stuff is bad, but anonymous and nothing real concrete. Then you have Jones, Kerr, Babby and others saying they never saw any of this, covering a span from 2004-2015. It's mostly Watson and McD (the Igor stuff probably came from him).

I don't see him having to sell the team.

Granted one of the partners is worth $3B so I am sure they can find the cash to buy old BobbyS out. Just his ego would never allow it --

Yeah, I was wondering if one of the other partners had enough money to become majority owner.

I have also wondered what % ownership does Sarver own? Usually majority means 51%, but I don't know if it could mean he just owns the most, even if less than that.

But if this owner already owns a considerable interest and could simply buy out Sarver's stake, then it would be an easy sale.

Do you or does anyone else here know the name of this owner?

[Bogyo]

You guys are missing the point. This is most likely a hit piece from the other owners/league. They all want him gone. Sterling didn't sell because he was embarrassed about what happened, he sold because his fellow billionaires and Stern pressed him to. The rich don't care what the likes of me and you guys think, they care about their opinion of the fellow rich people think.

He's gonna be forced to sell.....for a MASSIVE profit, but still. Forced to sell.

But everyone hated Sterling for decades and there was plenty of this kind of stuff floating around him and yet it took him actually being on tape saying bad **** for them to be able to do anything about it. And even then some owners were uneasy about setting a president on removing an owner.

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It's a different world. What flew in the 80s and 90s, won't fly now.

I mean, the NBA champs once boycotted a game-during the playoffs essentially....and that was after the state had arrested those cops. I think Sarver will want to fight it, but this is getting released late which makes me think that ESPN rechecked everything and it's all true.

Terrible optics if this goes to court. For the entire league and the billionaires in it.

One of my problems with the article. It brings up stuff that was 10 years ago, and then it was considered a bit cringy but "it would fly".

Several incidents described in the article like that, and describes it like something that it's not. I mean asking Taylor Griffin about shaving his balls in 2013 (or whenever) is not really funny in any way, but I see how somebody with a bad sense of humor was trying to joke with it. Old boomer trying to "locker room talk"...However, I can not see how this would be racist in any way shape or form, like the article stated. And I hate racist people they are the worst.

[matt131]

I hope he is forced to sell, but this is mostly he said/she said and the stuff is bad, but anonymous and nothing real concrete. Then you have Jones, Kerr, Babby and others saying they never saw any of this, covering a span from 2004-2015. It's mostly Watson and McD (the Igor stuff probably came from him).

I don't see him having to sell the team.

Granted one of the partners is worth $3B so I am sure they can find the cash to buy old BobbyS out. Just his ego would never allow it --

Yeah, I was wondering if one of the other partners had enough money to become majority owner.

I have also wondered what % ownership does Sarver own? Usually majority means 51%, but I don't know if it could mean he just owns the most, even if less than that.

But if this owner already owns a considerable interest and could simply buy out Sarver's stake, then it would be an easy sale.

Do you or does anyone else here know the name of this owner?

Maybe this is the guy?

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Wow I wouldn’t mind it at all if this guy bought majority stake in the team. Sarver looks like a completely broke clown in comparison with him!

[8on]

Tempting to compare this to Donald Sterling but let's remember, commissioners always control the sale of teams and other governors have a say. Some may not remember but take a look back at the George Shinn situation. Larry Ellison wanted to buy the Hornets but was rejected so the NBA itself could buy the team. Stern tried to get Shinn to sell the team but was rebuffed, so ultimately Stern waited for Shinn to run out of money and then controlled the sale to the point where the league itself owned the team. All this is to say that if the league needs an owner to sell, like it will have to do here, Adam Silver will force Sarver to sell. Whether it's an indefinite ban, a vote by the other governors to force him out, player protests, other business partners pulling out on Sarver unless he takes responsibility, or actual criminal accusations, Sarver will have to sell. That's the one part I don't doubt, regardless of the actual circumstances of all of this. Even though I believe damn near all of what was written, in this day and age, Sarver will be tried and sentenced in the public square before Silver, Congress, the DOJ, FBI or a federal or state court ever gets a crack at him.

[Slim Charless]

Slim Charles might literally explode... take a breath man.

[Slim Charless]

Tempting to compare this to Donald Sterling but let's remember, commissioners always control the sale of teams and other governors have a say. Some may not remember but take a look back at the George Shinn situation. Larry Ellison wanted to buy the Hornets but was rejected so the NBA itself could buy the team. Stern tried to get Shinn to sell the team but was rebuffed, so ultimately Stern waited for Shinn to run out of money and then controlled the sale to the point where the league itself owned the team. All this is to say that if the league needs an owner to sell, like it will have to do here, Adam Silver will force Sarver to sell. Whether it's an indefinite ban, a vote by the other governors to force him out, player protests, other business partners pulling out on Sarver unless he takes responsibility, or actual criminal accusations, Sarver will have to sell. That's the one part I don't doubt, regardless of the actual circumstances of all of this. Even though I believe damn near all of what was written, in this day and age, Sarver will be tried and sentenced in the public square before Silver, Congress, the DOJ, FBI or a federal or state court ever gets a crack at him.

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This. Sarver is done here. Just a matter of when, and who takes over.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I’ll say this again: we are screwed if the NBA doesn’t ban him. Can you really see a free agent wanting to play in Phoenix if Sarver is still the owner? Come on Adam Silver!!! Get rid of this clown.


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Hence why the draft is so very important for talent influx whenst you aren't a free agent destination due to ad optics created by terrible ownership. Draft prospects don't have much if any leverage in where they go/ are drafted. That franchise has majority control for 4 yrs. You develop them whilst you work to recoup the franchise image. Though, I'm more curious as to what our plan is post Paul?

[8on]

Especially with what happened between Silver and China, Adam needs a win here. I think he uses this to reinforce his reputation and no one will take issue with it except Sarver himself.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Now what could happen is the league suspends him from contact with the team while they run an investigation. There's enough here for that.

That's the easy path and the league can drag that out. Actually forcing someone to sell a billion dollar asset is where it gets legal and more complicated.

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[Slim Charless]

Watching ESPN's NBA show and they're talking about it. Side note: Malika Andrews is a smokeshow.

[BobbieL]

Now what could happen is the league suspends him from contact with the team while they run an investigation. There's enough here for that.

That's the easy path and the league can drag that out. Actually forcing someone to sell a billion dollar asset is where it gets legal and more complicated.

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I have said this before - - but the teams I root for historically have had some of the worst ownership groups -- Just terrible
The Suns of course

The Chargers - BWG knows the pain

Padres -- for many many years

and until recently, all of the owners were terrible and cheaper, not much net worth. The Padres just got bought out by a richer dude and there payroll skyrocketed. Whole attitude shift - -different for the Padres

Well the same could happen with the Suns if Bobby S sold - its just not the money, but thats big. But its an attitude

[WeekapaugGroove]

Now what could happen is the league suspends him from contact with the team while they run an investigation. There's enough here for that.

That's the easy path and the league can drag that out. Actually forcing someone to sell a billion dollar asset is where it gets legal and more complicated.

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I have said this before - - but the teams I root for historically have had some of the worst ownership groups -- Just terrible
The Suns of course

The Chargers - BWG knows the pain

Padres -- for many many years

and until recently, all of the owners were terrible and cheaper, not much net worth. The Padres just got bought out by a richer dude and there payroll skyrocketed. Whole attitude shift - -different for the Padres

Well the same could happen with the Suns if Bobby S sold - its just not the money, but thats big. But its an attitude

Yeah man that sucks. I've had a mixed bag.

Suns...

Packers, public owned, have had bad executives but a good set up overall

Brewers, the Bud Selieg and his daughter were terrible owners. The current owner is good and does a ok job spending. He's created a good organization.

Bucks, very mixed. Kohl wasn't the best owner but my grandparents knew him and he's a good dude who wanted the best for the team and city. He made sure to get new owners who would keep them there. The new owners have had some little issues but most new owners do and overall theyve been good.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

I'd say it's like 99% chance McD was one of the unnamed 'former executive' sources and I find it funny that little coward wouldn't put his name on it.

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[wheezy]

Kind of seems like the Sarver story is a play by the ownership group to get him removed as governor of the group.

[wheezy]

I'd say it's like 99% chance McD was one of the unnamed 'former executive' sources and I find it funny that little coward wouldn't put his name on it.

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Dunno. Possible. I work with someone that used to work for the Suns and he says McD used to join in on some of the things mentioned.

[matt131]

Kind of seems like the Sarver story is a play by the ownership group to get him removed as governor of the group.

I would say that's absolutely what's happening. Evidence below. He seems to be the only person related to the present day suns that is not defending Sarver

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[WeekapaugGroove]

I'd say it's like 99% chance McD was one of the unnamed 'former executive' sources and I find it funny that little coward wouldn't put his name on it.

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Dunno. Possible. I work with someone that used to work for the Suns and he says McD used to join in on some of the things mentioned.

That would surprise me at all. He's always came off like a swarmy little prick.

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