Ghost of Kleine wrote:Saberestar wrote:Frank Lee wrote:Intrigued ???? you are obsessed and borderline deranged especially with Hartenstien. He was Prestis prize get and in no way he deals him for a dude who dropped a colossal steamer on their franchise. Go over to their site and propose your Wonka-ish anything is possible IH deals. It just isn’t happening.
Dude pace yourself… we have a ways to go before any deal is made. Perhaps give KD a rest and focus on moving ONeal and Allen. Just get them off the team.*
Neither have been any help this year. But they were the only players azzhat could sign over the min (along with Okogie) Jones has been a big zero too. Cut him lose.
There is as much an argument that the supporting cast is the real downfall here. Coach included. People can’t believe a team with Book and KD could be so bad??? Just take a look at players 3-15. None of them would start anywhere else.
Bud also exasperates this problem and needs to kick into ‘next yr’ mode. Let’s shut this muther down and see what we have in Bol, Dunn, Oso, and Gillespie. We have nothing else to look forward to.
It just sucks to be us and if not for Dallas, we’d be the shining star of ineptitude. In one ‘hey watch this’ move, Nico stole the spotlight from Azzhat Mat. At least Philly can blame it on health.
* I’ve given up on moving BadBrad. What a waste as that deal tops the list for Wishbia’s impetuous idiocy
We need to trade Beal in the summer and I think and hope) that we can do it.
It's about working next to him and his agent about teams/cities where he will be comfortable and then getting a "bad" contract and if needed giving up a positive asset (FRP) to sweeten the deal.
For example...we can take Paul George from the Sixers if Beal is open to play for the Sixers. Or Rudy Gobert from the Wolves if they fail hard in the playoffs. Jerami Grant is another option on the rising Blazers. Middleton from the Wizards.
All those players probably aren't exciting but they could start for us and all of them don't have NTC...and that's HUGE.
I understand that you're trying to keep the duo of KD and Booker together because they've clearly been great together and Beal is where we really started messing up badly! But people need to get past the illusions that we'll somehow be able to trade Beal this summer. Beal has a "no trade clause that's iron clad and he has all the power in trades to approve or determine his outcome. Beal came here because he wanted to be here not only for the chance to contend, but also to be in an environment with warm sunny weather and close to California (where he's had houses and spends the summer with his family. He's already gone on record saying that he loves it here and wants to stay as does his family. So it's very very unlikely he'll approve any trades elsewhere. And especially not back to the last coast with their harsh winters and a depressing horrible rebuilding outcome with Philadelphia.
Now he might consider a Cali team due to spending his summers there and the nice warm weather, but even then, there'd still have to be mutual interest and I'm just not sure there's a team that has interest in Beeal for the money he's paid given his injury history, inconsistencies. No team is excited or intrigued by that contract or the idea of adding it. Also, Beal came here due to the connections with Bartelstein. So I don't see his agent helping convince him to leave either.
And I don't see any possibility of the Suns being interested in George for the money he's owed and how he's performed for Philly along with his injury concerns. They'd be trading an already horrible outcome scenario with Beal for an older, worse producing, appears to be completely washed player on a huge salary longer term deal than Beal has (if even only a year longer. Creative thinking to try and get off of Beals' contract, but I'd think the Suns would be prioritizing getting under the 2nd apron as a byproduct of any trade, and not being stuck in it longer until Booker's contract is up. Also again, I just don't see Bal approving any trades unless it's to one of the California teams or Miami. But not any6 others at all.
PG13 has an even longer contract than Beal...and is more injured. Philly needs to give us picks for him. Even for Beal