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Post#61 » by snowchess » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:41 pm

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I know. Got to admit that I haven't seen him play too often, but from what I know about him he's quite a good PG as well as a great locker room personality. Guess a big part of the Bulls' problem has to do with him starting for them. He's not exactly a starting quality PG, I guess.


weren't the suns actively pursuing thabolosha at one point?
but i agree, we need a true backup PG
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Post#62 » by snowchess » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:44 pm

whoa, amare shooting at 73% last 3 games
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Post#63 » by JustMoe » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:44 pm

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weren't the suns actively pursuing thabolosha at one point?
but i agree, we need a true backup PG

As far as I remember we were pretty high on him when he got drafted. I'd like to see him on our team, but what should we give up/would interest the Bulls?
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Post#64 » by -SDU- » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:45 pm

dantoni has a major mongrel for thabo
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Post#65 » by Mr. Sun » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:47 pm

God o'mighty, only 33 points so far.
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Post#66 » by snowchess » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:52 pm

raja's stone cold
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Post#67 » by suns32 » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:54 pm

Bad foul by Amare.
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Post#68 » by -SDU- » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:55 pm

suns are stone cold actually
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Post#69 » by JustMoe » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:58 pm

Raja 1 of 7, Boris 2 of 7, damn. Hope our shooting gets a lot better in the second half.
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Post#70 » by -SDU- » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:59 pm

after getting 10 points on 4-5 shooting in the first, amare didnt get a single shot in 7 second quarter minutes

we just ignore him for stretches

what i dont get is if the game was close down the stretch it would be nash amare pick and roll all the way and it would work, so why not do that ALL the game long>???
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Post#71 » by JustMoe » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:01 pm

-SDU- wrote:after getting 10 points on 4-5 shooting in the first, amare didnt get a single shot in 7 second quarter minutes

we just ignore him for stretches

what i dont get is if the game was close down the stretch it would be nash amare pick and roll all the way and it would work, so why not do that ALL the game long>???

In order to not let the opposing team get used to it early? Only explanation that would at least make a LITTLE sense to me :/
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Post#72 » by snowchess » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:08 pm

-SDU- wrote:what i dont get is if the game was close down the stretch it would be nash amare pick and roll all the way and it would work, so why not do that ALL the game long>???


how would that be different for example lakers' 2 seasons ago, where you'd just give the ball to kobe? or cleveland's "give the ball to lebron and everyone else clear out" scenarios?

i think you somewhat underestimate how flexible and good is an nba-level defense and how much more defendable an opposing team would be if the game plan consists of "option one" and "other options".
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Post#73 » by -SDU- » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:15 pm

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how would that be different for example lakers' 2 seasons ago, where you'd just give the ball to kobe? or cleveland's "give the ball to lebron and everyone else clear out" scenarios?

i think you somewhat underestimate how flexible and good is an nba-level defense and how much more defendable an opposing team would be if the game plan consists of "option one" and "other options".


im not saying let amare shoot every shot, but run the offense from there, you can also open up the shooters, create drives etc from that pick and roll

amare is one of the best offensive forces in the entired NBA, he deserves to get similar FGA's to kobe, but we just seem to be too stubborn to let him

there is nothing wrong with having a go to guy and a go to play, dantoni seems to not want to ever focus the offense around someone (other than nash of course) and in amare we have someone who deserves it built around them
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Post#74 » by Mr. Sun » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:21 pm

Let the great melt down begin!
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Post#75 » by snowchess » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:21 pm

-SDU- wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
there is nothing wrong with having a go to guy and a go to play, dantoni seems to not want to ever focus the offense around someone (other than nash of course) and in amare we have someone who deserves it built around them


this season FG
kobe 9.3-20.8
amare 8.4-14.2

thought the difference would be greater actually
but completely agree with giving amare 2-3 more shots per game
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Post#76 » by Mr. Sun » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:24 pm

The SUNS O & D is just pathetic.
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Post#77 » by snowchess » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:25 pm

suns this season ordered by FGAs (FGA and %)
Amare Stoudemire 14.2 .590
Leandro Barbosa 13.6 .457
Shawn Marion 12.4 .519
Steve Nash 12.1 .519
Grant Hill 11.3 .508
Raja Bell 10.9 .418
Boris Diaw 7.3 .439
Marcus Banks 4.3 .429

rather impressive %s
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Post#78 » by JustMoe » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:27 pm

Holy Jesus, didn't notice that Hinrich is killing us :nonono:
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Post#79 » by -SDU- » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:28 pm

i think amare should be like duncan in that he is the focal point of our offense

people talk about how bad his d is, fine, lets use his offense

i think bell hill marion and barbs should all come down 1.5 shots per game and amare should get 20
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Post#80 » by Mr. Sun » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:30 pm

JustMoe wrote:Holy Jesus, didn't notice that Hinrich is killing us :nonono:


I'd put Strawberry on him.

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