2014 Official FA Thread

[MrMiyagi]

Our offense is just fine. Honestly, how many games have we lost because we couldn't score? Not too many. The Suns biggest weakness is defense and Pau would make it only worse. Much worse. Not to mention that he's old as dirt, injury prone, doesn't fit our playing style and would cost a fortune. No to Pau!

We really need someone like Aaron Gordon that can finish in traffic rebound and place defense. I see him as a young Amare, just better. If we get him and he figures out how to make a jump shot he could be real special.

"A young Amare, just better."

Do you realize how GOOD a young Amare Stoudemire was?!

Not to mention Gordon plays more like Marion.

[BobbieL]

We really need someone like Aaron Gordon that can finish in traffic rebound and place defense. I see him as a young Amare, just better. If we get him and he figures out how to make a jump shot he could be real special.

"A young Amare, just better."

Do you realize how GOOD a young Amare Stoudemire was?!

Not to mention Gordon plays more like Marion.

He does play like Marion. I would love if the team got Gordo. Big upside potential.Can help a team without scoring.

[PHX Maniak]

I've always liked Perkins. I think he gets alot of bad rep, but he's a solid post defender, something we could use in spot minutes off the bench.

I cant remember if he's a FA this season, or an expiring, but I wouldnt object to having him on our team. The guy was integral for the Celtic's playoff run.

I'd much rather a guy who could also score in the post, and not just defend.

Suns already have one big body in the post that is usually painful to watch on offense (Plumlee).

[JTrain]

There's a League Pass add-on that blurs out Plumlee on offense.

[JTrain]

My path to be legitimate contenders in the West next year (I realize 80% will disagree):

1. Sign Pau Gasol. He can start at C but play PF at times, still allowing Plumlee or Len to get minutes and make an impact.
2. Bundle two draft picks to move up in the 5-7 range and get a SF with good ball-handling/penetrating skills that can make an immediate impact. This will provide a complementary skillset behind PJ's defense and rebounding.
3. Sign Barbosa for another year. I think he's a good fit as a backup PG and has another 2-3 good, fast years in him.
4. Ditch Ish. I like the guy but I don't think you can get by in the NBA for long at that height with such bad jump-shooting and free throws.

PG: Dragic/Bledsoe/Barbosa
SG: Bledsoe/Green/Archie
SF: PJ/Mook/Rookie
PF: Frye/Keef/Pau
C: Pau/Plumlee/Len

That looks like like a 55-win team to me, assuming we get some luck with health.

[jcsunsfan]

My path to be legitimate contenders in the West next year (I realize 80% will disagree):

1. Sign Pau Gasol. He can start at C but play PF at times, still allowing Plumlee or Len to get minutes and make an impact.
2. Bundle two draft picks to move up in the 5-7 range and get a SF with good ball-handling/penetrating skills that can make an immediate impact. This will provide a complementary skillset behind PJ's defense and rebounding.
3. Sign Barbosa for another year. I think he's a good fit as a backup PG and has another 2-3 good, fast years in him.
4. Ditch Ish. I like the guy but I don't think you can get by in the NBA for long at that height with such bad jump-shooting and free throws.

PG: Dragic/Bledsoe/Barbosa
SG: Bledsoe/Green/Archie
SF: PJ/Mook/Rookie
PF: Frye/Keef/Pau
C: Pau/Plumlee/Len

That looks like like a 55-win team to me, assuming we get some luck with health.

1. Do-abe, but I am not sure how effective it would be. Seems to me we need a more mobile big man. But Pau would provide low post scoring and mid-range shooting ability as well as rebounding. Pau would be an OK consolation prize if we can't get Bosh etc.
2. No way we move up into the 5-7 range. I think the best option would probably be the Detroit pick at 8.
3. Do not want Barbosa back. He cannot stay healthy. Ish is as productive and can stay off the injured list.
4. See #3.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Wonder how much ariza is going to be looking for this offseason. hypothetically say deng would cost around 10 ariza around 7 and tucker around 4. I would probably take ariza in that scenario

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[JTrain]

My path to be legitimate contenders in the West next year (I realize 80% will disagree):

1. Sign Pau Gasol. He can start at C but play PF at times, still allowing Plumlee or Len to get minutes and make an impact.
2. Bundle two draft picks to move up in the 5-7 range and get a SF with good ball-handling/penetrating skills that can make an immediate impact. This will provide a complementary skillset behind PJ's defense and rebounding.
3. Sign Barbosa for another year. I think he's a good fit as a backup PG and has another 2-3 good, fast years in him.
4. Ditch Ish. I like the guy but I don't think you can get by in the NBA for long at that height with such bad jump-shooting and free throws.

PG: Dragic/Bledsoe/Barbosa
SG: Bledsoe/Green/Archie
SF: PJ/Mook/Rookie
PF: Frye/Keef/Pau
C: Pau/Plumlee/Len

That looks like like a 55-win team to me, assuming we get some luck with health.

1. Do-abe, but I am not sure how effective it would be. Seems to me we need a more mobile big man. But Pau would provide low post scoring and mid-range shooting ability as well as rebounding. Pau would be an OK consolation prize if we can't get Bosh etc.
2. No way we move up into the 5-7 range. I think the best option would probably be the Detroit pick at 8.
3. Do not want Barbosa back. He cannot stay healthy. Ish is as productive and can stay off the injured list.
4. See #3.

Perhaps if Barbosa isn't the answer (he's so likeable though) we can look elsewhere. I just can't imagine a player surviving long at 6'0", 4% 3PT and 56% FT.

[Saberestar]

Wonder how much ariza is going to be looking for this offseason. hypothetically say deng would cost around 10 ariza around 7 and tucker around 4. I would probably take ariza in that scenario

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Ariza have played great ONLY in his contract's year. Where and how was he playing the another four years of his big contract??
I would not make him any offer.Period.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Wonder how much ariza is going to be looking for this offseason. hypothetically say deng would cost around 10 ariza around 7 and tucker around 4. I would probably take ariza in that scenario

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Ariza have played great ONLY in his contract's year. Where and how was he playing the another four years of his big contract??
I would not make him any offer.Period.

hes definitely been best in this last 2 contract years. Mostly because he's actually been healthy those years. It's a valid concern but man does his skill set fit what the Suns need out of a small forward. Good defender, rebounder, and 3 point shooter who can drive a little too.

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[Bogyo]

Wonder how much ariza is going to be looking for this offseason. hypothetically say deng would cost around 10 ariza around 7 and tucker around 4. I would probably take ariza in that scenario

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Ariza have played great ONLY in his contract's year. Where and how was he playing the another four years of his big contract??
I would not make him any offer.Period.

hes definitely been best in this last 2 contract years. Mostly because he's actually been healthy those years. It's a valid concern but man does his skill set fit what the Suns need out of a small forward. Good defender, rebounder, and 3 point shooter who can drive a little too.

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If he is only healthy in contract years then he is also injury prone
Jokes aside, I wouldnt want him for 7 mill - becouse his production screams contract year.

[bwgood77]

Wonder how much ariza is going to be looking for this offseason. hypothetically say deng would cost around 10 ariza around 7 and tucker around 4. I would probably take ariza in that scenario

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I think Ariza would be a great fit, but I'd only want to sign him if we could still ensure that we could carve out max cap space for summer of 2015.

[SunsFan1234]

Plumlee isn't a long term fix. He played horrible at the end of the year. He's 26 he's not getting better than he already is. Whoever would take him over Gasol is an idiot.

I want Monroe. We can get him.

[bigfoot]

Wonder how much ariza is going to be looking for this offseason. hypothetically say deng would cost around 10 ariza around 7 and tucker around 4. I would probably take ariza in that scenario

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I think Ariza would be a great fit, but I'd only want to sign him if we could still ensure that we could carve out max cap space for summer of 2015.

We will probably have about $30M tied up in salaries (Bledsoe, Tucker, Len, Plumlee, Goodwin, 2x 2014 rookies)

We will have another $30M in cap holds (Dragic, Frye, Kief, Marcus, and 3x 2015 rookies).

Unless we are willing to renounce rights to Frye/Kief/Marcus there is no way we will have max cap space in 2015. Bledsoe will eat up a lot of our space this summer.

[bwgood77]

Wonder how much ariza is going to be looking for this offseason. hypothetically say deng would cost around 10 ariza around 7 and tucker around 4. I would probably take ariza in that scenario

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I think Ariza would be a great fit, but I'd only want to sign him if we could still ensure that we could carve out max cap space for summer of 2015.

We will probably have about $30M tied up in salaries (Bledsoe, Tucker, Len, Plumlee, Goodwin, 2x 2014 rookies)

We will have another $30M in cap holds (Dragic, Frye, Kief, Marcus, and 3x 2015 rookies).

Unless we are willing to renounce rights to Frye/Kief/Marcus there is no way we will have max cap space in 2015. Bledsoe will eat up a lot of our space this summer.

There are always options. We could trade picks for future picks, or trade a rookie for a future pick. Then renounce Frye. We could even do a contract with Tucker where he makes $10 million in year one and $2 million the next couple of years (kind of like OKC did with Collison).

[thamadkant]

Plumlee isn't a long term fix. He played horrible at the end of the year. He's 26 he's not getting better than he already is. Whoever would take him over Gasol is an idiot.

I want Monroe. We can get him.

Plumlee was pretty much a rookie this past season.
Also he hit the "rookie" wall in which he simply didn't have the endurance to play 82 games with at a consistent level... Many new players not used to 3-4 games a week for 3+ months in a row.

Deandre Jordan had his best year improving a big amount and he is in his mid 20s.
So has Noah....

It's stupid to make a claim a 1 year (big minutes) experienced player will not improve further.


Basically you have your opinion and that's fine but I disagree..

Plumlee is not meant to be franchise center either.... He is meant be a Taj Gibson off the bench big once Lem is ready.... Gasol will cost a lot of money and he is a very short term investment...much shorter than Plumlee.

[SunsFan1234]

Plumlee isn't a long term fix. He played horrible at the end of the year. He's 26 he's not getting better than he already is. Whoever would take him over Gasol is an idiot.

I want Monroe. We can get him.

Plumlee was pretty much a rookie this past season.
Also he hit the "rookie" wall in which he simply didn't have the endurance to play 82 games with at a consistent level... Many new players not used to 3-4 games a week for 3+ months in a row.

Deandre Jordan had his best year improving a big amount and he is in his mid 20s.
So has Noah....

It's stupid to make a claim a 1 year (big minutes) experienced player will not improve further.


Basically you have your opinion and that's fine but I disagree..

Plumlee is not meant to be franchise center either.... He is meant be a Taj Gibson off the bench big once Lem is ready.... Gasol will cost a lot of money and he is a very short term investment...much shorter than Plumlee.

Noah was a top 5 draft pick. Jordan was suppose to be a top 10 draft pick but slipped to the second round. he's an athletic freak, something Plumlee is not (compared to Jordan at least).

Plumlee can be an effective role player, but we're not going anywhere with him as the starter and Len isn't ready. If we don't go after a Monroe type young guy, why not go after a short term fix in Gasol? We just missed the playoffs mainly because of our bigs (and Bledsoe being out half the season). Gasol isn't a long term fix, but he can play 30 minutes a game and be an immediate upgrade over Plumlee. If we don't add a big this off-season, we're in the same boat next year which is middle of the pack fighting for the 8th seed team. Why would you want that, rather than going after a Gasol and making the playoffs and maybe surprising some teams? Gasol isn't the best player in the world, but he's better than anything we have now.

[thamadkant]

Monroe doesn't fix what suns need.

He will most likely be 4th option in the Suns... But going to get paid 10+ million a year.

Suns need an elite post scorer or a versatile big who can stretch the defense as well as score inside on dunks and post moves.... And at the same time play defense


And Plumlee at 2-3 million is way better than Monroe at what ever money he will get.

Plumlee atleast can slot as 5th-6th option comfortably because he scores off feeds, transition etc.

I don't even KNOW why you are targeting Plumlee... When he has a clean role and cheap contract that doesn't hurt the suns.

[JTrain]

I'm not actually sure how much Pau will cost. He could probably get 12 million on an awful team, but he's made it clear he wants to be on a competitive team again. Now if you're willing to count the Knicks (next season at least) as a competitive team, it seems they and the Suns are the only good teams showing interest. All the good playoff teams either don't need a PF/C or don't have any cap space.

So, again, I don't exactly understand the Knicks $ situation, but it seems from what I've read they won't be able to offer Pau very much. So it's possible we could offer $8 million and and be the best deal on the table in terms of top 10-12 teams. Will he take that over $12 million from a crap team with no chance of making noise? Maybe.

[SunsFan1234]

Monroe doesn't fix what suns need.

He will most likely be 4th option in the Suns... But going to get paid 10+ million a year.

Suns need an elite post scorer or a versatile big who can stretch the defense as well as score inside on dunks and post moves.... And at the same time play defense


And Plumlee at 2-3 million is way better than Monroe at what ever money he will get.

Plumlee atleast can slot as 5th-6th option comfortably because he scores off feeds, transition etc.

I don't even KNOW why you are targeting Plumlee... When he has a clean role and cheap contract that doesn't hurt the suns.

4th option? You've obviously never watched him play. He's everything you just listed. And he's young. Plumlee is not better than what Monroe brings to the table. He's a good passer, versatile and can score and defend. Would we have to overpay him? Yes but they're aren't many bigs better than him that are available.

Another option could be Spencer Hawes. Big C who can shoot the 3 ball. What kind of contract do you think Hawes brings?