The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime!

JDLAW · Post #601 » by **JDLAW** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:09 pm

gaspar wrote:
JDLAW wrote:
gaspar wrote:The big difference is that on a 2-year deal the Suns would be able to trade Bledsoe without his consent and he would keep his Bird rights if he got traded. Bledsoe's trade value would be much higher than if he signed QO.

Again don't know if a 2 year deal/extension from the Suns is permissible, although the more i thought about it, it probably is. An offer sheet from another team must be at least 2 years.

Do not see that being a real good option for either Bledsoe or the Suns. But it is better than the QO.

AFAIK there's no restrictions on this. The Suns can give him 1-5 years, other teams 2-4.

I think you're correct.

JMac1 · Post #602 » by **JMac1** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:59 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
JDLAW wrote:Monroe says he is going to, but he has not done so yet.

Yes, I'll believe it when he signs the dotted line.

jcsunsfan · Post #603 » by **jcsunsfan** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:09 am

In any event, it might be in the Suns best interest to give Eric more than the qualifying offer, even if it is for one year. They then can trade him if they want to. Give him one year at $9 million, or 2 at $20 with an opt out for the second year. It gives him a little security and gives the Suns a chance to trade him for something (or keep him).

SunsFanSSOL · Post #604 » by **SunsFanSSOL** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:14 am

Better to give him a 1yr/$16m contract than have him take the QO. Allows us to get a bigger return salary wise in a trade and doesn't require his approval to trade him.

RunDogGun · Post #605 » by **RunDogGun** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:21 am

He isn't taking the QO. He would have to bust his butt to prove himself, and more than likely re-injure himself.

He has a choice 4/$48m or stupidity.

LukasBMW · Post #606 » by **LukasBMW** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:46 am

Scutt wrote:It is nice to see that Isaiah Thomas is starting to endear himself to the community : http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2014/ ... ith-school

If Bledsoe sticks around, IT can give him some public relations pointers

Attitude is everything and it's quite a contrast right now.

IT has already proven he wants to be here.

Bledsoe is earning his "mini-Lebron" name, not by playing like Lebron, but by acting like him. LOL

Jdiddy701 · Post #607 » by **Jdiddy701** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:53 am

Well Bledsoe did the "ice challenge" on his Instagram and tagged Archie. Maybe he doesn't hate the Suns...

We are worthless lol

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JDLAW · Post #608 » by **JDLAW** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:59 am

SunsFanSSOL wrote:Better to give him a 1yr/$16m contract than have him take the QO. Allows us to get a bigger return salary wise in a trade and doesn't require his approval to trade him.

CBA limits his salary next year to $14.7M

SunsFanSSOL · Post #609 » by **SunsFanSSOL** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:10 am

Jdiddy701 wrote:Well Bledsoe did the "ice challenge" on his Instagram and tagged Archie. Maybe he doesn't hate the Suns...

We are worthless lol

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He tagged him but he didn't mention him in the video.

Jdiddy701 · Post #610 » by **Jdiddy701** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:26 am

SunsFanSSOL wrote:
Jdiddy701 wrote:Well Bledsoe did the "ice challenge" on his Instagram and tagged Archie. Maybe he doesn't hate the Suns...

We are worthless lol

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He tagged him but he didn't mention him in the video.

I saw that ... I was like what was the point of that lol

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Mr-Al · Post #611 » by **Mr-Al** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:37 am

Hawks in: Bledsoe

Suns in: MIllsap/Hortford + Dennis Schroder

I don't believe that Danny Ferry is the kind of GM that would be complacent in being a perennial 8th seed type of team.

A core of Millsap, Hortford, and Teague is actually not bad, however I think that most would agree that Teague at this point is pretty good, but has limited upside.

Meanwhile Hortford and MIllsap are both nearly 30 and are well into their primes.

Also, Millsap is an unrestricted free agent next year and I doubt the Hawks would want to commit the kind of money that he would want. (they also drafted Adreine Payne and have another 4/5 in Mike Muscala)

Bledsoe strikes me as pretty southern and would likely be pretttttty open to going to Atlanta with it being pretty close to his hometown of Birmingham

On paper, Bledsoe has a load of potential as a young two way player and maybe Ferry takes the risk that comes with him. Would Bledsoe maybe take a small pay cut to play in Atlanta? Who knows

I would prefer Hortford, but I see Millsap as the player that's more likely to go as Ferry will want something in return for him

Wanting Schroeder as well is probably hoping for too much, but I always loved him as a prospect.

Millsap has shown the ability to hit the 3 ball and is a pretty good defender that can provide some veteran leadership and lock up the 4 position. I'm also confident that we would be able resign or extend him as well. His game is not too reliant on athleticism (neither is Hortford's)

Atlanta showed like year that they are going for a small ball, fast paced type of system similar to the Suns and Bledsoe certainly fits the bill.

At the end of the day, I'm 90% sure that Bledsoe is a Sun next year on that 4 year contract, as taking the QO would be **** asinine but this is by far my favorite trade.

What do you think?

Post #612 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:18 am

Mr-Al wrote:Hawks in: Bledsoe

Suns in: MIllsap/Hortford + Dennis Schroder

What do you think?

Well obviously I would love the trade, but Atlanta would never do it. If they love Bledsoe, MAYBE they do a Millsap/Teague swap for him because they could lose Millsap anyway, and I'd do that deal in a heartbeat, because Millsap is probably the best stretch 4 in the game outside of Love and Dirk.

I agree about Ferry, but he won't give away Horford unless he gets a great deal in return.

I also agree that there is about a 90% chance Bledsoe is on a 4 year contract with the Suns next year...maybe closer to 80%, but highly probable.

Post #613 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:20 am

If anyone is interested, I created a thread on the General Board about underrated players, and mentioned KJ. You can find it here. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1341322

Mr-Al · Post #614 » by **Mr-Al** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:21 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Mr-Al wrote:Hawks in: Bledsoe

Suns in: MIllsap/Hortford + Dennis Schroder

What do you think?

Well obviously I would love the trade, but Atlanta would never do it. If they love Bledsoe, MAYBE they do a Millsap/Teague swap for him because they could lose Millsap anyway, and I'd do that deal in a heartbeat, because Millsap is probably the best stretch 4 in the game outside of Love and Dirk.

I agree about Ferry, but he won't give away Horford unless he gets a great deal in return.

I also agree that there is about a 90% chance Bledsoe is on a 4 year contract with the Suns next year...maybe closer to 80%, but highly probable.

Yah I put some more thought into it and realized that this trade would only work for Millsap. I would still want Schroder though seeing as Millsap will be an UFA. A teague/bledsoe/hortford/korver core for them isn't too bad

grumpysaddle · Post #615 » by **grumpysaddle** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:50 am

Mr-Al wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Mr-Al wrote:Hawks in: Bledsoe

Suns in: MIllsap/Hortford + Dennis Schroder

What do you think?

Well obviously I would love the trade, but Atlanta would never do it. If they love Bledsoe, MAYBE they do a Millsap/Teague swap for him because they could lose Millsap anyway, and I'd do that deal in a heartbeat, because Millsap is probably the best stretch 4 in the game outside of Love and Dirk.

I agree about Ferry, but he won't give away Horford unless he gets a great deal in return.

I also agree that there is about a 90% chance Bledsoe is on a 4 year contract with the Suns next year...maybe closer to 80%, but highly probable.

Yah I put some more thought into it and realized that this trade would only work for Millsap. I would still want Schroder though seeing as Millsap will be an UFA. A teague/bledsoe/hortford/korver core for them isn't too bad

HORFORD... just saying.

Mr-Al · Post #616 » by **Mr-Al** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:52 am

grumpysaddle wrote:
Mr-Al wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Well obviously I would love the trade, but Atlanta would never do it. If they love Bledsoe, MAYBE they do a Millsap/Teague swap for him because they could lose Millsap anyway, and I'd do that deal in a heartbeat, because Millsap is probably the best stretch 4 in the game outside of Love and Dirk.

I agree about Ferry, but he won't give away Horford unless he gets a great deal in return.

I also agree that there is about a 90% chance Bledsoe is on a 4 year contract with the Suns next year...maybe closer to 80%, but highly probable.

Yah I put some more thought into it and realized that this trade would only work for Millsap. I would still want Schroder though seeing as Millsap will be an UFA. A teague/bledsoe/hortford/korver core for them isn't too bad

HORFORD... just saying.

If I were a Hawks fan and I heard that they had traded Hortford for Bledsoe, I might stop being a Hawks fan

JTrain · Post #617 » by **JTrain** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:01 am

Bledsoe + Minny 1st for Horford?

JTrain · Post #618 » by **JTrain** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:03 am

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Zelaznyrules · Post #619 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:19 am

grumpysaddle wrote:
Mr-Al wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Well obviously I would love the trade, but Atlanta would never do it. If they love Bledsoe, MAYBE they do a Millsap/Teague swap for him because they could lose Millsap anyway, and I'd do that deal in a heartbeat, because Millsap is probably the best stretch 4 in the game outside of Love and Dirk.

I agree about Ferry, but he won't give away Horford unless he gets a great deal in return.

I also agree that there is about a 90% chance Bledsoe is on a 4 year contract with the Suns next year...maybe closer to 80%, but highly probable.

Yah I put some more thought into it and realized that this trade would only work for Millsap. I would still want Schroder though seeing as Millsap will be an UFA. A teague/bledsoe/hortford/korver core for them isn't too bad

HORFORD... just saying.

It's not working. Maybe it's add a "T" to everyone's name month? Anyway, I like Hortford but I'm not sure I'm willing to trade Bledstoe for him.

Zelaznyrules · Post #620 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:27 am

Mr-Al wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Mr-Al wrote:Hawks in: Bledsoe

Suns in: MIllsap/Hortford + Dennis Schroder

What do you think?

Well obviously I would love the trade, but Atlanta would never do it. If they love Bledsoe, MAYBE they do a Millsap/Teague swap for him because they could lose Millsap anyway, and I'd do that deal in a heartbeat, because Millsap is probably the best stretch 4 in the game outside of Love and Dirk.

I agree about Ferry, but he won't give away Horford unless he gets a great deal in return.

I also agree that there is about a 90% chance Bledsoe is on a 4 year contract with the Suns next year...maybe closer to 80%, but highly probable.

Yah I put some more thought into it and realized that this trade would only work for Millsap. I would still want Schroder though seeing as Millsap will be an UFA. A teague/bledsoe/hortford/korver core for them isn't too bad

He's missed a lot of games the last three seasons and he only has two more years uunder contract. If they have any concerns about his health or their ability to re-sign him, I could see them looking for a trade partner. He'd be a perfect fit for us but I suspect we'd lose him as soon as his contract was up.