Tank Fest Update Around the League

Post #621 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 2:02 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Puff wrote:
This makes no sense on any level.

This only benefits one team, the Boston Celtics. I expect there is some under the table deal between Ainge and the Nets. Why would any team tank to make one of their prime competitors better going forward?

The Nets are not just benching any two players but by far their two best players after they dumped their best player, Joe Johnson.

The last commissioner stepped in when two players (Amare and Boris) peaked in at a mugging that happened to Steve Nash that quite possibly cost us a championship. Amare and Boris's actions had no effect on the game or integrity or the game. Stern had to protect the integrity of the game, right.

I really think the commissioner needs to step in. How about protecting the integrity of the game. This time it would make all the sense in the world.

Unfortunately he probably loves the Celtics.

Un freaking believable.
my immediate thought when seeing that was there has to be some under the table deal going on. Makes zero sense.

Didn't Knight sit with a stomach ache the other night and now Phoenix is sitting him for the rest of the season due to flaring of a sports hernia? Brooklyn only has five games left, what's the big deal about not risking injury with their two older vets and giving more time to see if anyone else has a shot to stay with the team? If don't see any difference between sitting Lopez for the last few games vs sitting Knight.

Well, for one, Knight helps us lose on most nights because of his inefficiency and turnovers. But the main peculiar thing is that we have incentive to lose and Brooklyn doesn't which makes it odd. But I have mentioned in the past that not playing players due to injury risk when games don't matter makes sense, outside of being unfair to fans who paid to see the games. But in that case, a lot more players should be sitting. Karma will probably work out to where the 4th worst team wins the lottery though. Well, actually, you guys will probably win it either way, because luck is rarely on the Suns' side.

King4Day · Post #622 » by **King4Day** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 4:15 pm

LukasBMW wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:We need to lose 3 of the last 4 at least. This way we tie the Nets as a worst case scenario

The last 3 are:

@ NOP
Sacramento
Clippers

The NOP and Sac games are dangerous as both teams are keeping their picks and both in a position to improve their lottery odds by losing.

The Clippers game is also dangerous as it is their last game of the season and they will likely be locked into the 4th spot by that time. They will probably want to rest their guys. Plus even if we play a skeleton Clippers team, Tony Robbins junior (PJ Tucker) will probably go off for 35 points just so we "end the season on a positive note."

I was wrong. I meant 4 of the last 5. But Atlanta should (SHOULD) be an auto loss.

I could be wrong but i think we're starting to play Goodwin and Jenkins a bit more. Maybe that's a sign (even though it's probably because knight is out) but it's important not to win anymore games.

saintEscaton · Post #623 » by **saintEscaton** » Mon Apr 4, 2016 4:59 pm

Knightmare is shut down rest of the season with a sports hernia, a necessary precaution against Pels/Kings team without AD/Boogie and a Clips team that will likely have nothing to play for

King4Day · Post #624 » by **King4Day** » Tue Apr 5, 2016 3:33 pm

I just did maybe 20 rolls on the 'mock lotter' from espn (http://espn.go.com/nba/lottery2016/mockdraft)
I'd say a quarter of the time, got the 6th pick. A couple of times, the Wiz jumped. A quarter of the time, we finished with 5. I would say the rest gave us 1,2, or 3.
I got a bad taste in my mouth with all those 5 and 6's.

While it wouldn't bother me, can you imagine if the Lakers don't get their pick this year? Talk about the biggest waste of a season (ala Brookyn).

TeamTragic · Post #625 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Apr 6, 2016 8:08 pm

DarkHawk wrote:I just did maybe 20 rolls on the 'mock lotter' from espn (http://espn.go.com/nba/lottery2016/mockdraft)
I'd say a quarter of the time, got the 6th pick. A couple of times, the Wiz jumped. A quarter of the time, we finished with 5. I would say the rest gave us 1,2, or 3.
I got a bad taste in my mouth with all those 5 and 6's.

While it wouldn't bother me, can you imagine if the Lakers don't get their pick this year? Talk about the biggest waste of a season (ala Brookyn).

I've seen the exact same result on Tankathon. More often than not the Lakers lose their pick and we end up with the fifth pick. That would be a massive disappointment. Either way next season we need to tank even harder.

LukasBMW · Post #626 » by **LukasBMW** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 4:24 am

Washington beat Brooklyn. The exact opposite of what we wanted. Boo.

Washington is essentially still in play for a playoff spot since they hold the tiebreaker with Detroit. But 1 Detroit win or Washington loss means Washington will have nothing left to play for. We need that to happen asap.

King4Day · Post #627 » by **King4Day** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 12:10 pm

LukasBMW wrote:Washington beat Brooklyn. The exact opposite of what we wanted. Boo.

Washington is essentially still in play for a playoff spot since they hold the tiebreaker with Detroit. But 1 Detroit win or Washington loss means Washington will have nothing left to play for. We need that to happen asap.

The Nets were in that game for a while too. I wonder if they win had Lopez and Young still been playing.

saintEscaton · Post #628 » by **saintEscaton** » Fri Apr 8, 2016 5:49 pm

Lotto odds #3 vs #4
Top 3: 46.9% vs 37.8%

Top 2: 31.3% vs 24.5%

No.1: 15.6% vs 11.9%

By dropping down a spot our odds at landing a top 2 pick go from one in three to one in four. Need to lose out and hold on to that half game lead but Brooklyn probably make it up tonight

TeamTragic · Post #629 » by **TeamTragic** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 2:30 am

Brooklyn lost tonight (shocking). Tied with them for the third worst record. Washington also lost tonight which is nice.

LukasBMW · Post #630 » by **LukasBMW** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 4:47 am

Good news: Washington is now officially eliminated from the playoffs.

Bad news: The stupid Rockets victory means we may very well have gone from pick 3 & 12 to 4 & 13. It's very possible Houston now finishes below Washington bumping us down from 12 to 13.

saintEscaton · Post #631 » by **saintEscaton** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 4:48 am

LukasBMW wrote:Good news: Washington is now officially eliminated from the playoffs.

Bad news: The stupid Rockets victory means we may very well have gone from pick 3 & 12 to 4 & 13. It's very possible Houston now finishes below Washington bumping us down from 12 to 13.

Dang Queef went off tonight. 20 point third quarter but to no avail

Post #632 » by **ATTL** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 4:56 am

To people thinking one win doesn't make a difference, Knicks won 2 out of their last 3 and moved ahead of the wolves in the standings. Wolves won the lottery and Knicks dropped to 4th. It worked out OK with them getting KP, but can you imagine the KAT hype if he was in NYC?

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King4Day · Post #633 » by **King4Day** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 4:36 pm

ATTL wrote:To people thinking one win doesn't make a difference, Knicks won 2 out of their last 3 and moved ahead of the wolves in the standings. Wolves won the lottery and Knicks dropped to 4th. It worked out OK with them getting KP, but can you imagine the KAT hype if he was in NYC?

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On the flip side, if we do finish 4th and win the lottery, Celtics fans will be upset. I'm not happy that McD is allowing this to happen but with regards to the lottery, anything can happen

TeamTragic · Post #634 » by **TeamTragic** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:01 am

ATTL wrote:To people thinking one win doesn't make a difference, Knicks won 2 out of their last 3 and moved ahead of the wolves in the standings. Wolves won the lottery and Knicks dropped to 4th. It worked out OK with them getting KP, but can you imagine the KAT hype if he was in NYC?

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This is what people in the game threads apparently don't understand. Winning at this point is flat out stupid.

Post #635 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:10 am

It was pretty annoying to see us winning these meaningless games.

TeamTragic · Post #636 » by **TeamTragic** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:12 am

Brooklyn now with the third worst record. Washington with a win tonight.

Post #637 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:41 am

Brooklyn has to play Wiz and Raps next. Even a resting Raps or Wiz team should be able to take down Brooklyn with ease.

Us on the other hand, we still have Kings and Clippers left to go. I think we have potential to go 1-1 or even 2-0 depending who's going to be playing for the Clips who will be on the 2nd of a B2B and will be their last game of the season. Unless the Clips have a reason to still compete for the 3rd seed, I don't see them playing any of their good players.

I think we've cemented our 4th spot.

LukasBMW · Post #638 » by **LukasBMW** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:25 am

That Rockets win really hurt. It likely pushed us down on both picks. Stupid.

Suns management needs to take the blame. They should have shut down Tyson, Mirza, and PJ for the last 5 games. The fact that they still are playing them and letting us win is beyond stupid.

Could be end up winning the lottery from the 4th position. Sure.

But I could live with us finishing 3rd only to see the 4th place team win. Nothing we could do. We tried our best to be smart.

I CAN'T live with seeing the 3rd place team win just because they tanked and we weren't smart enough to.

As mentioned before, it also limits how far you can fall.

Suns management played this stupid. If it works out, it's not because of them. It's in spite of them.

Damkac · Post #639 » by **Damkac** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:08 am

No matter if Suns try to be good or to be bad they fail at both :lol:

RunSunRun · Post #640 » by **RunSunRun** » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:10 am

I don't think I've ever been infuriated by my team winning games before, it's a really strange feeling.

We're going to get screwed this lottery, I can just feel it.