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Re: Suns Path to Playoffs 

Post#641 » by suns12345 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:50 am

Bob8 wrote:https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2020/8/11/21364470/dallas-mavericks-trey-burke-offensive-foul-damian-lillard-final-seconds-trail-blazers

Imho that kind of fouls shouldn't and normally aren't whistled in last seconds of games. Especially in so important games for some teams. Very unfortunate for the Suns. And we must not forget that Porzingis' offensive foul was total bull too.


I'm obviously pro suns, and want to be pissed about that call. But Burke made the pass, sought out Lillard and dropped the shoulder.

Agree sometimes refs swallo the whistle there but I don't think you can argue with the call, especially in this day and age where any contact is a foul.

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Post#642 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:51 am

Bob8 wrote:https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2020/8/11/21364470/dallas-mavericks-trey-burke-offensive-foul-damian-lillard-final-seconds-trail-blazers

Imho that kind of fouls shouldn't and normally aren't whistled in last seconds of games. Especially in so important games for some teams. Very unfortunate for the Suns. And we must not forget that Porzingis' offensive foul was total bull too.


that's a no call in the 90s. What a Soft league we live in these days.
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Re: Suns Path to Playoffs 

Post#643 » by Bob8 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:02 am

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Bob8 wrote:https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2020/8/11/21364470/dallas-mavericks-trey-burke-offensive-foul-damian-lillard-final-seconds-trail-blazers

Imho that kind of fouls shouldn't and normally aren't whistled in last seconds of games. Especially in so important games for some teams. Very unfortunate for the Suns. And we must not forget that Porzingis' offensive foul was total bull too.


I'm obviously pro suns, and want to be pissed about that call. But Burke made the pass, sought out Lillard and dropped the shoulder.

Agree sometimes refs swallo the whistle there but I don't think you can argue with the call, especially in this day and age where any contact is a foul.

Reminiscing about Raja Bell's take down when Nash hit that game winner many years ago.


Nothing wrong with whistling like that, if you do it every time. This game was like game 7 in playoffs for the Blazers and the Suns. Do you believe that kind of foul will be whistled by the same referee in game 7 against Lakers, for example? No way. Mavs has got to 2 very borderline crucial offensive fouls called against in last minutes, first meant lost of possession and 6th foul on KP, second disallowed 3 points. It can happen of course, but it will never happen to teams like Lakers and that's the problem.
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Post#644 » by DirtyDez » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:16 am

The Grizz are beating the Bucks we know how this goes.
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Post#645 » by darmani » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:32 am

I'm not worried. As a ValleyBoyz co-founder Tyler Johnson is contractually obligated to make sure the Blazers lose against the Nets.
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Post#646 » by bwgood77 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:40 am

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ChrisInAZ wrote:Not surprisingly, but still disappointingly, I see the "woe are us" folk, conspiracy theorists are in full bloom after that Blazer victory. Sad. And a big element as to why I don't visit here nearly as often as I used to.

The Porzingas offensive foul...eh? Iffy,I'll admit. But the Burke one at the end? 17 outta 20 it gets called. It was a foul.

Whack-a-do party line- The NBA wants a Blazers-Lakers series over PHX_LA cuz .....Really? Why exactly? OK, granted Lilliard/McCollum and the Blazers have some playoff gravitas. They won't be a pushover in a first round series. OK, Nice set up, but you want a really cool storyline? How ''bout a team that out of no where (argued by many/most "not bubble worthy") runs off 9 straight wins, with a young phenom (Booker) takes on Lebron in the first round. WTF will happen. King V young Upstart!!!

This is an obvious great storyline, except for the "they're out to GET US bunch" who don't seem to process the elements, cuz-"The NBA is out to get us" mindset. Again, sad. Better put- pathetic

TV/NBA money is NOT like an immediate cash register based on how many are watching per game/series, note to the suspicious/conspiracy folk: The Phoenix and Portland TV markets? It's no contest. Portland is a f'ing suburb. Phoenix is a metropolis in TV viewership. It's a moot fact but...there it is

Let's beat the Mavs on Thursday. Hope for the best beyond that. Nobody is out to get us. There is no bogeyman. There are no conspiracies against our team. Stuff happens, Dame's ridiculous, bouncing 6 foot high three??? Luck yes, but Booker does it? You're giving him props. Smile. No Smile bigger We're in the F'ning mix! Sweet...sweeter than we could have hoped.


Yep, spot on.

While i've got no grounds to fully rule out any sort of tampering in the NBA, the extent to which it is claimed by some is a bit much for me. Besides, referees can only dictate the result by so much.

Dame still had to hit those shots and the NBA didn't make his shot bounce 10 ft in the air and drop in.


Yeah, I thought about responding to the "rigged" stuff, but it's not like you can convince people otherwise. Everyone is talking about the Suns. I think the NBA would welcome them getting in. Anyway, the Mavs shot more free throws in that game. Everyone thought the league stacked the deck against Portland too to get Zion in. I'm sure if things went a little differently and the Mavs pulled it out, some Blazers fans would be saying it's rigged for the Suns or something. Just comes with the territory.

Hopefully we can still beat the Mavs and have one or both of them lose their last game.
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Post#647 » by bwgood77 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:41 am

Best case scenario for us is they both lose and SA wins....and of course we meet our nemesis again. I worked out the %s and if that happens, here are the %s.

Suns win % 46.575
Spurs win % 46.478

Less than 1/10 of a % point, so they'd have to beat us twice assuming rules still hold where lower seeded team has to win twice.
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Post#648 » by Qwigglez » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:56 am

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ChrisInAZ wrote:Not surprisingly, but still disappointingly, I see the "woe are us" folk, conspiracy theorists are in full bloom after that Blazer victory. Sad. And a big element as to why I don't visit here nearly as often as I used to.

The Porzingas offensive foul...eh? Iffy,I'll admit. But the Burke one at the end? 17 outta 20 it gets called. It was a foul.

Whack-a-do party line- The NBA wants a Blazers-Lakers series over PHX_LA cuz .....Really? Why exactly? OK, granted Lilliard/McCollum and the Blazers have some playoff gravitas. They won't be a pushover in a first round series. OK, Nice set up, but you want a really cool storyline? How ''bout a team that out of no where (argued by many/most "not bubble worthy") runs off 9 straight wins, with a young phenom (Booker) takes on Lebron in the first round. WTF will happen. King V young Upstart!!!

This is an obvious great storyline, except for the "they're out to GET US bunch" who don't seem to process the elements, cuz-"The NBA is out to get us" mindset. Again, sad. Better put- pathetic

TV/NBA money is NOT like an immediate cash register based on how many are watching per game/series, note to the suspicious/conspiracy folk: The Phoenix and Portland TV markets? It's no contest. Portland is a f'ing suburb. Phoenix is a metropolis in TV viewership. It's a moot fact but...there it is

Let's beat the Mavs on Thursday. Hope for the best beyond that. Nobody is out to get us. There is no bogeyman. There are no conspiracies against our team. Stuff happens, Dame's ridiculous, bouncing 6 foot high three??? Luck yes, but Booker does it? You're giving him props. Smile. No Smile bigger We're in the F'ning mix! Sweet...sweeter than we could have hoped.


Yep, spot on.

While i've got no grounds to fully rule out any sort of tampering in the NBA, the extent to which it is claimed by some is a bit much for me. Besides, referees can only dictate the result by so much.

Dame still had to hit those shots and the NBA didn't make his shot bounce 10 ft in the air and drop in.


If there is an agenda I see it working in our favor. Nobody wants to see a dismantled young team like the Grizzlies face the Blazers in the play-in game. And the Blazers will get stomped by the Lakers, CJ playing hurt destroys any chance the Blazers had at beating them in a 7 game series. It wasn't that long ago that the Blazers faced the Pelicans in the 1st round of the playoffs and got roundhouse kicked to the face by AD and co.

Anyway, like you said we'd have the best storyline if the NBA wanted to tamper. Plus, we got the no 1 pick two years ago, that erased any conspiracy theories for me regarding the Adam Silver led NBA.
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Post#649 » by King4Day » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:11 pm

SunsRback4Good wrote:
Bob8 wrote:https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2020/8/11/21364470/dallas-mavericks-trey-burke-offensive-foul-damian-lillard-final-seconds-trail-blazers

Imho that kind of fouls shouldn't and normally aren't whistled in last seconds of games. Especially in so important games for some teams. Very unfortunate for the Suns. And we must not forget that Porzingis' offensive foul was total bull too.


that's a no call in the 90s. What a Soft league we live in these days.


If they didn't lose their challenge a play or 2 earlier with KP's 6th foul, I thought this could have been a good one to try. But they probably wouldn't have overturned.
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Post#650 » by King4Day » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:14 pm

On NBA radio this morning, they were saying they don't expect Luka and/or KP to play. This wasn't any inside info and could be 100% wrong. But since Dallas lost yesterday, it doesn't appear they have much to play for tomorrow.

I expect the Bucks to sit everyone too. My buddy who is a Nets fan thinks they'll (BKN) sit some key guys too. Sad but this was brought on by ourselves as we all know.

It's nice that we at least can be excited about tomorrow. If we are eliminated, we won't know until our night ends at the earliest, or the Blazers game ends.
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Post#651 » by King4Day » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:16 pm

Teams like the Kings, Wiz, and Pels, they aren't really getting much out of all of this. They got to see some players play but how much of what they saw can be seen as promising?
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Post#652 » by King4Day » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:17 pm

And lastly, most of all, especially if we don't advance, I pray we stay healthy. No serious injuries.
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Post#653 » by alamin330 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:21 pm

If Bucks can’t beat the Grizzlies without Giannis or whoever else they plan on sitting they have no chance at a championship.
It’ll be suns vs blazers sat.
Grizzlies are a really bad team. If the season never got put on hold grizzlies would drop down probably below the twolves. They had a nice winning streak because Dillon brooks was playing out his mind. He’s back to being garbage again and now JJJ is hurt. They have no chance.
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Post#654 » by King4Day » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:41 pm

I'm sure it was posted but i didn't realize they posted the intros for every player:

Read on Twitter


Javon Carter and Cam Payne had really good family ones
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Post#655 » by Qwigglez » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:44 pm

That foul on Burke was absolutely the correct call. The reason I'm mad about it is there wasn't any reason to run into Lillard there. He had plenty of breathing room, it's not like Lillard was going to block that shot. Was just a really stupid move by Burke. The earlier foul on KP was a bit silly and I could see them flip-flopping on that call.
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Post#656 » by King4Day » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:05 pm

alamin330 wrote:If Bucks can’t beat the Grizzlies without Giannis or whoever else they plan on sitting they have no chance at a championship.
It’ll be suns vs blazers sat.
Grizzlies are a really bad team. If the season never got put on hold grizzlies would drop down probably below the twolves. They had a nice winning streak because Dillon brooks was playing out his mind. He’s back to being garbage again and now JJJ is hurt. They have no chance.
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I would think the Bucks' bench will have something to prove too. If they put up a fight, that's all you can ask for (and a win :))
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Post#657 » by spanishninja » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:45 pm

one interesting thing I found. Kris Middleton still has a chance to go for 50/40/90 for the season. All he has to do is make two shots in a row without a miss and then leave, but he would need to play. He can also go 8/15 for the game and get it.

Would be cool if he plays the game for that reason alone. It's too good to pass up.
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Post#658 » by Jdiddy701 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:19 pm

King4Day wrote:I'm sure it was posted but i didn't realize they posted the intros for every player:

Read on Twitter


Javon Carter and Cam Payne had really good family ones

Ricky Rubios GF is beautiful


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Post#659 » by darmani » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:58 pm

Read on Twitter
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Post#660 » by matt131 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:30 pm

darmani wrote:
Read on Twitter
Hopefully that means Kyrie and Durant as well lol

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