Saberestar wrote:Barkley6 wrote:Saberestar wrote:I would not sign Griffin, we just do not need him at all.
He is not better than Ayton or Saric and he can not really play the 4 effectively on a nightly basis. And we have Crowder, Cam Johnson and Kaminsky to play that position too.
He does not have an easy personality...it is not worth the effort to integrate him.
Edit: And I am not saying that he is a bad player, he has had a lot of injuries and he is not the same player that he was, but he is yet a decent frontcourt player.
I think if you give Griffin Frank's minutes, and chip into the minutes Cam and Crowder have been playing a little (both of whom I think have been playing a little to much based on how poor they've been shooting), you could easily find 20-25mpg for Blake.
The question here is who would you rather have playing those minutes, Frank or Griffin? Even as a shell of his former self, I'm choosing Griffin. He's a good passer, and he does something the rest of our PFs don't do....get to the FT line.
In terms of personality, I think you've got some good things going for you in PHX....you have veterans like CP3, Crowder, Moore and Galloway that aren't going to let anyone mess with the chemistry. Further, he's got two former teammates on the roster in Galloway and CP3. Our current VP of Basketball Operations Jeff Bower is the guy who brought Griffin to Detroit. There are a LOT of connections for Griffin in the Valley and I could see those being leveraged to ensure he's a good teammate.
I get the feeling Griffin wants to be somewhere warm and more inviting after spending that much time in Detroit, but also wants to contend. I could see the Nets as a possibility, but I think they'll snag Drummond if he's bought out because he's a better fit for them. But that leaves us, the LA teams, Utah and maybe Golden State. I doubt he would consider going back to the Clippers after they signed him to that huge deal and then dumped him. So, Phoenix, the Lakers, and Utah would be the biggest contenders at that point. Does Utah mess with what seems to be working? I'd be hesitant to in their shoes, but who knows?
I think we have some advantages in attracting him for the aforementioned reasons, but we could also offer more money on the BAE (which would be significant if he's having to pay back $10m of his salary to make the buyout work, that BAE would total over $7m which would go a long way to offsetting that) I think he might also enjoy playing with guys who look to create for each other. Everyone on our team is a capable and willing passer and that's attractive to free agents.
I loved and feared Griffin for years, but he is not good enough to break our nice rotation right now. And I don't think he will be as easy to manage as you think...he would not be as bad as Cousins but he will make the chemistry a bit harder for sure.
Have you seen his percentages this season? .365 FG%... those numbers for a big are really BAD.
5.2 rebounds and 0.1 blocks in 31.3 minutes per game....what can I say? He can't elevate at all.
In his two games against us he played a solid game in the first one but he was absolutely terrible in the second one. He really helped us to win that game.
The Nets need some big to come of the bench so I think they will sign him and that will be OK for them but we have Saric and Crowder who deserve a good amount of minutes per game....and then there is Cam Johnson too.
And Kaminsky is playing well in a very small role as a false starter, no need to change what is working really well.
No way Griffin would move the ball as quickly as him because Griffin wants the ball in the post and create trough contact. He would stop ball movement IMO.
I realize he's not who he once was, but I think you're underrating his passing a little. He's still averaging nearly 4apg this season. And while his shooting percentages suck, I would guess that some of that is to do with him being on a very bad Pistons team that is asking him to be a primary scorer. He's also averaging more FTA than anyone on our roster outside of Booker.
