The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2

[Puff]

I think it remains a three team opportunity for a KD trade.

1. Miami - Ware, Jovic, Wiggins, Robinson 20th pick - my favorite package
2. Houston - 10th Pick + Filler
3. San Antonio - Castle, 14th pick + filler or hang up the phone - don't trust of any move we make with the Spurs.

Not really interested in anything the Knicks or Wolves would want to trade along with no draft picks.

Still not convinced we are going to get what we want and see us keeping KD, even though most everyone say he is going to get traded.

[SkyBill40]

Durant for KAT?

Few other pieces maybe

Booker and KAT are tight but I don't see it happening.

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[Mr Puddles]

I think it remains a three team opportunity for a KD trade.

1. Miami - Ware, Jovic, Wiggins, Robinson 20th pick - my favorite package
2. Houston - 10th Pick + Filler
3. San Antonio - Castle, 14th pick + filler or hang up the phone - don't trust of any move we make with the Spurs.

Not really interested in anything the Knicks or Wolves would want to trade along with no draft picks.

Still not convinced we are going to get what we want and see us keeping KD, even though most everyone say he is going to get traded.

I think we can safely add the wolves and Knicks to the mix. Those names have popped up in multiple rumored scenarios and they're both arguably a veteran upgrade away from being a finals team.

Fit wide, I like Denver best but I can only see this happening if the Nuggets can get their picks back from OKC ( which the Thunder have no incentive of entertaining). Someone proposed a trade where Denver would trade its unconditional picks to the Thunder to get their protected picks back opening up the possibility of sending three unprotected picks to the Suns. But again, the thunder would need to cooperate and they're obviously considering more than just pick value.

[sunsbg]

Asking Booker before drafting Ayton and before trading for KD has worked so well so why not do it again. Just proves this FO has no vision and no clue how to build a great team.

[sunsbg]

So when is it a crime to have a really good Robin? Not his fault he’s the only hero in this comic book.

KD being better was a Batman. Paying a Robin like a Batman makes it harder to get that other true hero.

[Slim Charless]

Asking Booker before drafting Ayton and before trading for KD has worked so well so why not do it again. Just proves this FO has no vision and no clue how to build a great team.

What?

Booker gave his opinion on whether we took DA or Luka? I've never heard that before

[sunsbg]

Asking Booker before drafting Ayton and before trading for KD has worked so well so why not do it again. Just proves this FO has no vision and no clue how to build a great team.

What?

Booker gave his opinion on whether we took DA or Luka? I've never heard that before

Yes, he did. Shaq & Kobe 2.0. That was DA quote IIRC, but there were reports Booker was in pro-DA camp, which makes perfect sense as Doncic will have taken the ball off his hands.

[Saberestar]

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[Ghost of Kleine]

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Don't think the Knicks have the pieces to go after Giannis, they ship sailed the moment they traded away all their picks.

KD on the otherhand, I definitely think there will be some phone calls made.

Great for our KD trade interests though as more teams bid for KD due to discount and legitimate availability/ chance of acquisition in comparison to trading for Giannis! Let the bidding war commence soon!

[Ghost of Kleine]

Asking Booker before drafting Ayton and before trading for KD has worked so well so why not do it again. Just proves this FO has no vision and no clue how to build a great team.

What?

Booker gave his opinion on whether we took DA or Luka? I've never heard that before

Well that with Booker's early fixation on Bryant and the Kobe/ Shaq premise. But likely moreso was the under diiscussed factors around Ayton being the glaring choice of the Uof A alumni boosters (Sarver himself was a part of) as a university profit driven promotion strategy.

And of course Sarvers' bankers mentality envisioning shared profits and potential kickbacks as a result of making Ayton a #1 NBA pick to draw attention/ interest, merchandise and recruiting reputation to the university, etc.


Those things probably sealed the deal for our greedy owner at the time. Along with the premise of having two ego driven ball dominant guards trying to claim the lion's share of the possessions and accolades as well as being able to call themselves the true franchise superstar of the team. Booker in no way wanted to share that title with Doncic.

This is why I kept mentioning it was unlikely to happen around the 2018 draft. Along with many others!

[Bogyo]

I think it remains a three team opportunity for a KD trade.

1. Miami - Ware, Jovic, Wiggins, Robinson 20th pick - my favorite package
2. Houston - 10th Pick + Filler
3. San Antonio - Castle, 14th pick + filler or hang up the phone - don't trust of any move we make with the Spurs.

Not really interested in anything the Knicks or Wolves would want to trade along with no draft picks.

Still not convinced we are going to get what we want and see us keeping KD, even though most everyone say he is going to get traded.

I think we can safely add the wolves and Knicks to the mix. Those names have popped up in multiple rumored scenarios and they're both arguably a veteran upgrade away from being a finals team.

Fit wide, I like Denver best but I can only see this happening if the Nuggets can get their picks back from OKC ( which the Thunder have no incentive of entertaining). Someone proposed a trade where Denver would trade its unconditional picks to the Thunder to get their protected picks back opening up the possibility of sending three unprotected picks to the Suns. But again, the thunder would need to cooperate and they're obviously considering more than just pick value.

I think Miami are too smart for that. They are not a contender like that, so why give up future for a 37year old KD?
Houston, sure - lot of salary needed to be matched though (and I hate pretty much each and every one of their high salary guys that would come back).
San Antonio - probable, if they can rip us off, otherwise they are too smart to trade for a 37 year old KD. They have to feel they will win a championship with Wemby and Fox and him, then mini-rebuild around Fox and Wemby.
Wolves - I think they are trying to shed salary bad due to their ownership situation. They would be stupid enough to give up stuff for KD, but they dont really have stuff, and their two possible main pieces (Gobert or Randle) are not very good, although I like Randle more than some here. Not a no1 option by any means though, but not as bad as some make him out to be.
New York - yep, they are stupid enough, they wanna get rid of KAT (Books boy), and I'm not sure they are in love with the OG/Bridges combo at wing - that is enough value for me, even though I see KAT's defense (if you can call it that). So out of these, this is the most likely and fairly acceptable solution for me. Houston second if they throw in a very good big wing and Sheppard to take on parts of the FVV/Brooks/Green turdpie and the 10th pick.

[garrick]

Watching Indiana go to the finals makes me furious!

We could have had Hali our PG of the future who is a much better floor leader than Booker ever was.

I've said this million times now, but passing up on Haliburton is really unforgivable.

People will point to the botched drafts with Bender, Josh Jackson, Ayton - but all those guys were highly rated and just didn't pan out.

Tyrese dropped unexpectedly to the end of the lottery, after being slotted to go in the first half of the lottery in all mocks, and came at a time when Suns fans had just endured years of Mike James, Canaan and Tyler Ulis as our starting PGs.

The perfect player fell into our laps unexpectedly and our front office (probably emboldened by the Cam Johnson gamble paying off) decided to get cute by drafting a guy projected to go in the second round.

Haliburton would have played under the tutelage of CP3 for a couple of years, could have gotten plenty of minutes as a combo guard, and could have then taken over the Helms. The suns would have been set for years to come with a young line up of Haliburton, Booker, Bridges, Johnson, Ayton.

Yeah and I don't know what JJ was smoking during the draft because just about every draft insider was shocked that we picked Jalen that high when he was never projected to be a high lottery pick but maybe that's what happens when you don't value scouting & treat it like an afterthought the way JJ did.

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I hope not. That would just be a big money player leaving little cap flexibility. Terrible contract.

Time to be smart - get your cap figured out. Start building a deeper younger team

If Booker is TRULY on board (granted once he signs that extension he will be more on board) -- but do it right

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[TeamTragic]

Raptors don't have any worthwhile assets for either Giannis or KD.

[thamadkant]

KD to Raptors doesn't make sense, they have Ingram and Scottie Barnes.
I don't think they will trade Scottie to Bucks, but that would be a serious curve ball if it does happen.

[Saberestar]

The Minnesota Timberwolves contacted at least one Eastern Conference team about helping to facilitate a deal between them and the Phoenix Suns involving Kevin Durant, according to Jake Fischer of The People's Insider.

[DirtyDez]

With all the teams star hunting how are we not blowing up this dumpster fire?!

[TeamTragic]

The Minnesota Timberwolves contacted at least one Eastern Conference team about helping to facilitate a deal between them and the Phoenix Suns involving Kevin Durant, according to Jake Fischer of The People's Insider.

I would assume the Nets but just a guess.